the Hand Watering coco thread

[gigi86]

Hello guys I just post some pics of my flo situation......

P.S.
Atm I m cutting my tap water with ro water (EC 50\50 is about 0,3)
My EC is around 1,3 ( atami a+b hydro , ata bloei ,ata pk)
PH is 5,8 ( last week I flushed my pot with only tap water with ph 5,2 EC 0,6)
Now I m feeding every day 1 time but I m thinking about to every 2 days 1 time
grow box temperature is around 30° and Humidity is 30%-50%

I m very close to suicide

 

[Green lung]

Did you stop watering for god sakes?

 

[Green lung]

Your plant is small and dark green fan leaves with burning leaves, your burnin them up with more nutes and water for a smal root system.

Let the coco dry out and give plain water.


You have to treat coco like soil when dealing with clones and transplanting small plants. You have to let the coco dry out to certain extent.

Your plants wont die even if one lets the coco go extremely dry, Imo plants in veg can go very very long with out any water and bounce back fine

 

[gigi86]

OK tnx bro I will just feed them with plain water ph 5,8 it's fine if I add some hydro booster for let the root set in pot faster?

 

[gigi86]

Just forgot that I m using atami' s coco substrate that write on the bag npk 12-14-24

 

[Lowman]

Your plant is small and dark green fan leaves with burning leaves, your burnin them up with more nutes and water for a smal root system.

Let the coco dry out and give plain water.


You have to treat coco like soil when dealing with clones and transplanting small plants. You have to let the coco dry out to certain extent.

Your plants wont die even if one lets the coco go extremely dry, Imo plants in veg can go very very long with out any water and bounce back fine

Sorry...bad advice. Never feed coco plain water till flush. Never let coco dry out. These are basic coco rules you learn on day one of Coco 101.

 

[MacGyver420]

Never feed coco plain water till flush.

i completely disagree with that statement.

 

[John Deere]

It amazes me how we can all treat our plants so differently and yet still get great results.

 

[dramamine]

Hey Gigi, I know people say don't worry about checking your runoff, and I don't check mine on a regular basis, either. But if you checked the EC/ppm of yours, it would at least tell you if you have a severe salt buildup or not. I mention it because if your problem is not salts that have built up, then giving them plain water is definitely the wrong thing to do.

One quick test of your runoff and you will know if the flushing is called for....feeding too lightly in coco can cause many different imbalances.

Also, are you flowering these clones? You shouldn't add PK13-14 during vegging stage at all. Even if you are flowering now, it's way too early for PK....it's only used once flowers start forming. You are feeding the same amount of PK as you are A + B. This is causing your feeding solution to be extremely unbalanced. In fact, if I read your post right, I will go ahead and say that the PK is the reason for the leaf burn, etc. on your plants. Stop giving the PK and make up the difference in EC by feeding more A + B.

A good idea might be to check the atami website for a feed schedule or recommendation. Good luck..

 

[Green lung]

Sorry...bad advice. Never feed coco plain water till flush. Never let coco dry out. These are basic coco rules you learn on day one of Coco 101.

Take a look at your grows and take a look at mine.

 

[gigi86]

Yo tomorrow I will feed and take a look about runoff ec
dramamine: I stopped to fert with pk almost a week ago today I have check the leaf and seem there are more better than before atm I m feeding with only a+b and hydroboster ( for roots) dont know If give a bit of cannazym ( never used before )
My clones id under flo period and I just make some clone for the next cycle...
tomorrow I will feed them with tap water+ro water ( EC 0.3) + something for roots without other fert and check EC of runoff
however tnx alot all ^^

 

[prowler]

Sorry...bad advice. Never feed coco plain water till flush. Never let coco dry out. These are basic coco rules you learn on day one of Coco 101.

Sorry but this contains some bad advice again. If you let coco dry out completely in veg you're rewarded with healthy and massive root system. If and when the plant suffers from deficiencies and or improper nutrient levels treat those with flush + normal feed and put them to flower after a recovery period. The first three weeks from flowering it's highly recommended to let it dry but not completely - this again thrives the roots to grow before buds start to form. Observe your plants daily to decide if they need your attention. You'll spot very soon the improper levels of nutrients.

I followed the "never let it dry" philosophy first but learned soon enough that i didn't have a healthy root ball. Now i do. You'll drown your roots because of keeping them all wet...

 

[gigi86]

Prowler you right I checked from some clone that I m using for test that if I give less water for a first period the roots are more healty than when I feed every day , I just loose 2 cycle of clone for learn it X( now the clone that survived (second generation) is growing outdoor and look very healty but those I put in the flo box its still looking so bad I will try your guy's advice ;D , hope the third generation of clone can give me a good harvest in indoor

 

[jorgeblen]

gig86 my man, follow the basic rules for a coco grow and u gonna have much better results:

- dont recirculate coco nutrient solution. It means, if you want to use the wilma system for coco, you gonna need a separate rez for your nutrient solution and chuck the pump there, using the original wilma tank as a catchment tank only

- never give it plain water (minimum ec .6 of nutrients). Coco has a great buffering capacity, giving it plain water u gonna unbalance the whole thing, potassium problems will occour.

- use only coco specifiv nutrients

- ph solution 5.5 - 6.0

and u will love it

peace

 

[jorgeblen]

ah, and dont let the coco dry, how some ppl is telling u (also related to the coco buffering capacity)

 

[gigi86]

Yo man for now I will just dont use drip system...imo hand water rules for now ;D I will think about something for upgrade the wilma system ( that I really hate now ).
Hope the survived mother will be healty soon.

 

[Granger2]

gigi,

How often are you watering now? -granger

 

[gigi86]

One time every 2 days with 20-40% runoff....

 

[Granger2]

gigi,
Is that enough for the pots to get dramatically lighter? -granger

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Let those pots dry out - dont be scared!

I have had way more probs with coco being too wet vs too dry.

Just dont let the plant dry out if full of salt ferts.