Cloning- Bubbler cloner vs. aeroponic cloner

[kannubis]

Haha, that is built up gook on the hoses from using the stones in my tea-brewing bucket and bio-bucket hydro experiments before changing the application to the bubble cloner. Its a good mix of org amendments with fish juice and molasses that I just left in place. No harm came from it

 

[brer]

Aaah crap & DOH i voted wrong lol
Having seen both homemade in action results from aeroponic were quicker .

 

[St3ve]

Depends on how long you're going to leave in the cloner IME.

Bubble works fine to get them to pop but if you want longer roots (over 1/2") then the temps may/will cause issues as they stay in there.

For me the aero has been bulletproof. I've not lost a single clone.. not a one ever. Sometimes I'll get busy or forget and let them go till there is 12" roots or more and they are always vigorous and actually start vegging (growing) in the cloner. It keeps the temps down because the pump only runs for about 30 secs every 4 mins. I get nubs in 5-7 days and by 14 days I always have a cloner full of roots begging to come out.

Also, I only use tap (comes out around 250ppm at .7) and never change the water or anything.

If you buy the neoprene pucks in packs of 30 they are always cheaper. I just bought 60 pucks for $24. I used to wedge them in a 1 3/4" hole but doing that only got 2 runs. Now I just use 2" pots that I cut the bottom out of and now the pucks last 5 or more runs.

 

[FreezerBoy]

At 80 you can shut the air pump off because the water isnt holding air.

We need to very careful here. If your bubbler employs no air gap, you may be able to survive this. If you do employ an airgap, no airpump means no bubbles, no bubbles mean dry stems, dry stems ensure a 100% death rate in a matter of hours.

80º may not let you increase air in the water but will still force out stale air for fresh. There's no benefit to turning off the pump. Leaving it on could prevent garden wide disaster.

Back to aero...
Aero is infamous for immediate catastrophic failure. One day they work perfectly, the next day they kill everything. Usually because growers fail to sterilize the system between batches. Sterilize between batches to avoid problems and consider EWC teas.

 

[nxsov180db]

At 80 you can shut the air pump off because the water isnt holding air.

This is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Water holds o2 at 80f just "not as much" as it does at 68f. And being that warmer water holds less o2 makes it even MORE of a reason to keep the air pump on. Have you ever grown weed?

 

[bigbadbillybob]

ive used both, and find the aero cloner has a higher success rate and quicker roots.
Aero for the win.

 

[wvkindbud38]

How to you guys to your aero cloners, do you put it on a timer for the pump to kick on and off or just let it run 24/7 ?