Gnatrol or Azamax

[simon]

Hey guys. I have a bit of a fungus gnat issue. It's been a while since I last had the problem. Then, I used liquid Gnatrol and it worked very well. It seems like liquid Gnatrol is no longer available, replaced by a granule formulation. I've also heard good things about Azamax. Which do you suggest? FWIW, my garden is non-organic. Thanks!

Simon

 

[GoozMan]

Aren't they both neem oil concentrates? I use Azatrol, I think it's the same as those other two, works great. 1 ounce per 10 gallons in the reservoir and no bugs to be found.

 

[mg75]

use both !
just make sure to hit all of your plants as the gnats get hip on the treatment and move elsewhere (untreated ones). might as well apply to house plants as well.
treat all your standing water (reservoir included) with mosquito dunks. you may also crumble some mosquito dunks unto the top of your medium if possible. if the infestation is really bad, the dunk will not be effective alone.
i would include pest management into your watering/feeding schedule.
There are harsher chemicals available... try organic first.

 

[beta]

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[MIway]

Aren't they both neem oil concentrates? I use Azatrol, I think it's the same as those other two, works great. 1 ounce per 10 gallons in the reservoir and no bugs to be found.

nope... azatrol is the neem concentrate of azadirachtin a/b.

like beta said... gnatrol is bacillus thuringiensis... bti in particular.


hopefully you know of a shop that breaks up the 5gal bucket gnatrol comes in... like 500 bones... ouch... but i've found gnatrol effective... and azatrol less so + more expensive to use on a regular basis.

 

[qupee]

I've actually had great luck destroying gnat populations with the yellow sticky stuff.

The best such product I've found is these Safer Sticky Stakes. You can get rolls of the yellow sticky stuff much cheaper, but you absolutely cannot beat the convenience of these stakes. The sticky gets on everything and is hard to clean, ugh, what a mess. But the stakes have a nice little peel backing, and a small part of the strip is not sticky so you can set them up without making a sticky mess of yourself.

 

[smog]

you should break up some mosquito dunks in a baggy and add a small amount when you mix up soil. you can add it to your water also,it does work most hardware stores only carry it in the summer time though.

 

[someotherguy]

I'm with qupee on this one, unless you have a SEVERE infestation sticky tape traps are all you need, ...if you do have a severe infestation then sticky tapes AND mosquito dunks will take care of your problem.

Keep in mind that the flying gnats are the adults who lay the eggs which is why the sticky tapes alone will work in most cases, it just takes a week or two for all the eggs to hatch and grow into flyers that then get caught on the sticky tapes before they have a chance to lay more eggs

...btw, the dunks work very well and are totally safe for the plants and can be used right up to harvest.

Peace, SOG

 

[qupee]

I would have even considered my gnat problem to have been getting serious.

Sticky traps, few weeks later and can hardly find a gnat, and the traps only have a few on them (whereas when I started they covered the sticky completely)

 

[macamus33]

Been using Azamax for years in my greenhouse, but not for fungus knats. Great stuff for whitefly outbreaks. Couple treatments at 1/4 to 1/3 strength on my Nepenthes plants and whiteflys are gone til next year. Only had to use once on my MJ for same reason. Works good for me, and is OMRI listed so should be safe.

 

[Morphote]

They both work quite well. DO NOT use them at the same time! The only concern with Azatrol/Azamax is that it can affect the beneficial microbes if you are growing organically in soil, but as you do not grow organically, this is not a concern. Also, as stated previously there is no need to use Azatrol/Azamax at full strength. Half strength will do the job just fine and it only needs two or three applications to completely eradicate the infestation. FWIW both products are OMRI listed.

M.

 

[simon]

Thanks very much for the replies. I appreciate it.

Simon

 

[habeeb]

use everything.. as you know gnats are hard to rid off

-sticky traps
-drying out pots
-cover the bottom of pots also
-put cups of water around the grow room.. they either lay there eggs in it, or die in the water..
-gnatrol kills the babies, neem I think disrupts there whole nervous system and such.. I don't know if both are compatible with each other though


you really do want to get rid of them though, they can cause disease as the babies munch away on your roots

 

[coonword]

i once used azamax in flowering burned all my pistols, iv had decent results with hotshot peststrips

 

[Maj.PotHead]

i dont use either product heres something quite cheep Diatomaceous Earth
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=70408

i grow in fox farm ocean forrest soil even it has soil gnats but when i 1st plant in soil and or transplant into new soil. i allways sprinkle a small ammount ontop of my soil then water directly into soil. gnats are thing of the past for me

 

[toohighmf]

Hey guys. I have a bit of a fungus gnat issue. It's been a while since I last had the problem. Then, I used liquid Gnatrol and it worked very well. It seems like liquid Gnatrol is no longer available, replaced by a granule formulation. I've also heard good things about Azamax. Which do you suggest? FWIW, my garden is non-organic. Thanks!

Simon

mosquito dunks have the same active ingredient (cedar oil) as gnatrol.
run some heavy h2o2 and fry those fuggers. clean up the rhizosphere so they don't want to return. keep it clean. I just went my first ever gnat free grow in NFT. the roots were healthy, the water was oxygenated and the roots were beautiful. NOT ONE FUNGUS GNAT OR WHITE FLY...