I stumbled upon a killer schnazzleberry #2 female that was a spitting image of the old school blueberry f2's, looks exactly like the b-130 offspring.
DJ's B-130 male.
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I've stumbled upon the B130 a # of times now in a few of DJ's current offerings. It is accessible from each route b130 fathered (IMO). I am finding Flo (dj cut) x F13 to be hardier and alot more resinous than F13 x F13 so far.
The clear powerful high is in a portion of all of those seeds but F13 is a Flo line selection.
(F13= Flo#13 x B130)
F13 is your fastest route IMO. I havent succesfully finished F13 or GK outdoors at 45N. I tried OTM outside and even that needed another month.
The genes are very dominant however. THe clear high injected itself into cyhem4 from a F13 dad for me. Clear and soaring chem with BB notes yum!
Try and find quality seeds if you can. Those lines were made like 6 years ago. They are old seeds now, they werent remade (as far as we know).
RM
The clear powerful high is in a portion of all of those seeds but F13 is a Flo line selection.
(F13= Flo#13 x B130)
F13 is your fastest route IMO. I havent succesfully finished F13 or GK outdoors at 45N. I tried OTM outside and even that needed another month.
The genes are very dominant however. THe clear high injected itself into cyhem4 from a F13 dad for me. Clear and soaring chem with BB notes yum!
Try and find quality seeds if you can. Those lines were made like 6 years ago. They are old seeds now, they werent remade (as far as we know).
RM
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Aerokush101
I know this is old but RM, if you are paying attention, is it proper to take a (GFXBB) X F13, in order to find something closer to B130 male in female form? I am also confused, is the B130 male the fuely/gassy/blue side or it bring out more floral/perfume? I alway thought FLO, or Floral carried the perfume taste, and the B130 carried the gas. Im looking for the gassy/fuel X more gassy fuel... Although I am very happy with my f13 as is, I would love to get more of that gas/fuel with more flavors...grapefruit gas/fuel for example.
medman225
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isnt the b-130 male the blueberry sativa? if it is that aerokush101 i think ull probably find the b-130 male to give off very floral qualities like flo(wasnt the bbs found within the flo line?) i wish someone still had to b-130 and could give it back to dj... im sure dj didnt plan to only do one run of hybrid releases then stop using the b130 forever...
Weed-Luver
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did you not find any real good fems?..i never really did..altho i found a nice tb fem once (didn't keep it)..the males always seemed to cross out well..never found alot of the mutations in the crosses like i did the original packs..
Oh I found some gems. They are like super hot girlfriends, they are nice to have, but hard to maintain. I am playing with f13 x mod f2's and f13 x panama now. The three way dad cross were the most candy/floral to date, but they were slow growing. They were very potent though. The johnny blaze yields tons of herb, grows like it's in a race, and knocks my socks off in the best of ways.
wrongwrong
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I always thought it was flo (selection 13) x the pollen donars... as I thought the 2 flo type releases were this and flodica... the others were BB pool? could be wrong though!
I think I'm finally going to crack some Johnny Blaze soon. Been sitting on them for like forever.
I don't have the B130 backed up but I did make S1 seeds from it when it was alive.... these are the only examples if its genetics in pure form on the planet.
wrongwrong you are correct the F13 was flo#13xB130.
To the OP, all of the joint project releases from that era all have equal degrees of B130 genetic contribution.... just slightly under %50.
I'm surprised that you guys think are able to identify the floral traits of the B130... having never seen the plant. At best, your assumptions are based on phenotypic expression of inbred versions of any of these lines, and fail to take into account heterotic effects, heterozygous input from the other parentals in the F2's etc.... at best it's an inferential assessment.
I actually sprayed the B130 with ethephon for 3 weeks to induce pistillate flowers on this staminate plant... it was the only way to accurately assess the terpene profile of the plant... by coaxing it, via hormonal treatment, to produce female flowers which produced trichomes, and thus produced a resin which we could use for assessment of the terpene profile. I don't see how one could comment on the terpene profile or floral nature of the plant without having done this.
Regardles, he's long gone now so the only way to tease apart his influence vs. those of the respective mothers it to
A) have access to the mother plants involved in the cross, and know their resin/terpene profiles so that when you can examine the F1s and F2s and you are able to
B) Infer from the F1's the input of the male, by subtracting the influence of the known mother, and
C) Look into the F2 generation for plants that are not like the F1, and not like the parentals... from this you could draw a pretty soft conclusion about the B130... although it's still pretty weak assessment due to the fact that you really can't know without molecular technique which F2 plants show no markers from the original maternal input of the P1 (mother plant)... and are thus a representation of some of the genetics of the P2 (B130 male).
I guess my point is don't focus too much on trying to pull out the B130 from subsequent breedings of these lines... it's near impossible (and completely unpractical) for a hobby/home breeder working without a lab.
Take these seeds for what they are grow them, select clone plants for production from them, or re-bred them if that is your interest and pull out new phenotypes that have some genetics from both of the P2 (B130) and respective P1s. Trust me, these are far better and in terms of performance and genetic health that the B130 male itself.... the pursuit of which is kind of like chasing a theoretical grail you will never be able to find.
My 0.$02... take it for what it's worth.
-Chimera
wrongwrong you are correct the F13 was flo#13xB130.
To the OP, all of the joint project releases from that era all have equal degrees of B130 genetic contribution.... just slightly under %50.
I'm surprised that you guys think are able to identify the floral traits of the B130... having never seen the plant. At best, your assumptions are based on phenotypic expression of inbred versions of any of these lines, and fail to take into account heterotic effects, heterozygous input from the other parentals in the F2's etc.... at best it's an inferential assessment.
I actually sprayed the B130 with ethephon for 3 weeks to induce pistillate flowers on this staminate plant... it was the only way to accurately assess the terpene profile of the plant... by coaxing it, via hormonal treatment, to produce female flowers which produced trichomes, and thus produced a resin which we could use for assessment of the terpene profile. I don't see how one could comment on the terpene profile or floral nature of the plant without having done this.
Regardles, he's long gone now so the only way to tease apart his influence vs. those of the respective mothers it to
A) have access to the mother plants involved in the cross, and know their resin/terpene profiles so that when you can examine the F1s and F2s and you are able to
B) Infer from the F1's the input of the male, by subtracting the influence of the known mother, and
C) Look into the F2 generation for plants that are not like the F1, and not like the parentals... from this you could draw a pretty soft conclusion about the B130... although it's still pretty weak assessment due to the fact that you really can't know without molecular technique which F2 plants show no markers from the original maternal input of the P1 (mother plant)... and are thus a representation of some of the genetics of the P2 (B130 male).
I guess my point is don't focus too much on trying to pull out the B130 from subsequent breedings of these lines... it's near impossible (and completely unpractical) for a hobby/home breeder working without a lab.
Take these seeds for what they are grow them, select clone plants for production from them, or re-bred them if that is your interest and pull out new phenotypes that have some genetics from both of the P2 (B130) and respective P1s. Trust me, these are far better and in terms of performance and genetic health that the B130 male itself.... the pursuit of which is kind of like chasing a theoretical grail you will never be able to find.
My 0.$02... take it for what it's worth.
-Chimera
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That is not what he said. To evaluate the terpene/resins profile.
Mt Toaker
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Interesting idea, trying to reverse engineer the plant to get back to a specific plant. Chimeras write up is good though, hows this project going?
Edit: I see the latest comments prior to mine are only a couple weeks before this post so disregard the updating of progress, I see it.
Edit: I see the latest comments prior to mine are only a couple weeks before this post so disregard the updating of progress, I see it.
