GHS - Hawaiian Snow Feminized

[Samson4]

Welcome aboard woolybear and thanks for the terrific pics and info Samson4. Whenever I see 14+ weeks it gives me a bit of a chill. I know I'll just have to see how it plays out for me, but I was really hoping to achieve a 12 week flowering period to fit 3 crops into my growing season. Between June and Sep the temps are unmaneageble in my room so I just shut down near the end of May and pop new seeds at the beginning of Aug. GHS advertises this strain as 11 weeks but it seems most of the Seed Houses advertise shorter than actual times.

I'll be out of town for a few days (camping in the foothills) and I'll have an update and fresh pics when I return.

Not all were long flowering. Some of the short heavily branched phenos finished in 10 weeks. They also had a tropical fruit bubblegum flavor.

 

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How did their high compare to the 12-14 weekers?

 

[Samson4]

They were more blissful, mellow at first then hypnotic and spacey.

 

[SOTF420]

The last female I grew out and what my veg pic is of was a somewhat shorter flowering one but her buds were very hazey with a fruity exotic aroma to them maybe some incense smell in there after curing like the "church" smell people talk about from top quality pure sativa's. The high is really strong but really nice quality still, suprisingly low anxiety as long as you don't overdo it and it does get you thinking but it's a deep creative feeling where you can close your eyes and drift off in your mind.

Nice pics Samson

This was the tip of one of my branches @ 35 days flowering (5 weeks) just starting to grow some seeds on it (it was pollinated with Swt #4 pollen) she got really sticky and smelled absolutely delicious when touched I was surprised at how resinous it was honestly the whole plant got sticky with little tiny trichomes everywhere on all flower parts.

 

[smilley]

Hello fellow IC Maggers. I'm back from some R & R and the seedlings are doing great. Before I left, I had to support a couple of them as they were getting a little topheavy. I should have put the oscillating fan on them as soon as I removed the dome, but I didn't. Anyway, they're fine and will be repotted tomorrow. I'm going to try and get some Pure Blend Pro for soil and see how it runs.

Thanks everybody for adding to the thread in my absence and all are welcome. Criticism, comments and input are welcome here and appreciated.

Here's the latest pics on day 14 from seed:

 

[smilley]

I made it to the hydro store and they confirmed SOTF420's advice regarding the PureBlend Pro for soil so I picked up a small bottle of each. I forgot about the CalMag supplement but I'll get some next time. I like the idea of going all organic and it doesn't seem like it'll be much more expensive than the old hydro nutes.

As today was repotting day, here's a pic of the roots at day 15 from seed. Looking good and healthy............

And finally, here's a pic of the 4 girls repotted and happily vegging under the new 400mh.

 

[smilley]

Day 21 from seed:

The girls are vegging along nicely. Three are putting out their 4th set of leafs and one is still working on its 3rd. I think the one on its 3rd set was the last to pop so I don't think its necessarily a different pheno. All the seedlings look remarkably similar and just by looking at them they don't appear to be much different than any of the hybrid strains I've grown.

Still not much to see at this stage but here are the pics anyway.

I'm planning on topping them between the 4th and 5th leaf sets in about a week, and still planning on flowering starting day 32 of veg.

 

[SOTF420]

Hey loving the updates and pics your plants are coming along nicely.

Good choice on picking up those much more natural nutes your plants and your lungs will thank you man! The bloom formula will drop your PH way down though so I'm sure I don't have to remind you to make sure to adjust that PH level before watering to 6.5, and since these are Sativa's and they are more thin stemmed and can be sorta spindly at times I would also encourage you to pick up a small bottle of Pro-Tekt from DynaGro it is potassium silicate and works perfectly as a PH up adjuster (just use it to raise the PH anytime needed in your nute solution instead of normal PH up) plus the added silica really thickens up the stems and helps to increase the overall thickness & stature of the plant as well as increasing it's disease/pathogen resistance. Just a few more tips to help you make these ladies grow at their best! Much love

 

[smilley]

Hi SOTF420, thanks for dropping by and keeping an eye on the grow. I have potassium silicate, I used to use it as an additive in veg along side the hydro nutes. It sure does bump up the ph but it never occurred to me to use it as a ph booster. I used to always add the potassium silicate and then ph down to the appropriate level before adding the hydro veg nutes. The hydro shop said to only use it in small amounts during flowering as it can inhibit flowering in larger doses but as a ph booster it will probably work excellent. Apparently it penetrates and strengthens every cell in the plants. I'm going to try what you suggest, I think its a great idea.

You mentioned ph 6.5. I've always ph'd to 6.3 in the past for Pro-Mix, I know its only 0.2 difference but do you think 6.5 is better? I've been sifting through your epic thread...............Just awesome............

 

[SOTF420]

Usually as long as the PH stays between 6 and 7 in soil and most soiless mixes you are fine somewhere in the middle is normally ideal. There is some drift anyways so regardless of what exactly you give them it's going to drift a bit either way as the plants take up some elements and leave others. I always give my plants plenty of potassium silicate even in bloom & I think unless maybe you are literally dumping it on them it's not going to hurt flowering one bit at least I have not ever seen it and don't see any reason why it would as long as everything else is in balance. As a PH up it certainly does not take very much I think I normally use like half a tsp to 3/4 tsp per gallon of bloom nute solution (pureblend pro bloom for soil) in RO water and that brings it to perfect PH levels for soil and related mediums. Sending you good continued positive energy to you and your grow bro! I have a feeling these are going to be the best plants you have ever grown when all is said & done!

Thanks for the kind words also!

 

[LuvPB]

Hey lookin pretty good there old feller. Sounds like some solid advice and info coming your way. I'll tell em all they should just give it to you a wee bit at a time so you don't get too confused. Flowering next weekend eh, should be cool to see. I'll be watching. PS I'd be keeping an ear out for SOFT420 if I was you. Man, I got to post 10 and thought they were yours!!! I said that smilley really is "the man". It'll be a fun season. Bye the way I got to post 27 and you is "the man".

 

[smilley]

Right back at you Luv, it does look like we're both gonna have some fun this season. Your grow looks terrific, can't wait to see those Blueberry's in flower. And SOTF420 really is is the man, he kinda makes me a little nervous (don't wanna mess this up), but I'm grateful for all the knowledge and expertise he brings to the party and genuinely seems like a great dude.

Ok, back to the thread. Here's a pic iof my veg room. Its an understair kinda thing, 3ft X 4ft and a ceiling height of 4ft with a downslope on one side. I can veg comforably 9 plants to 24 inches in there but have had up to 13 that tall at times (very crowded). Its attached to the flower room so I have a door that covers the opening and a vent feeding into the flower room. The four HS seedlings look awfully lonely and small.

 

[smilley]

I'm feeding this thread rather slowly as this is my busy season (work & travel) and Mrs smilley always asking if I'm back on "that damn ICMag" but bare with me. lol

This is a pic of my homemade extraction set up. Its powered with a 6 inch, 400 cfm ellicent blower fan. The carbon filter is just a 5 gallon pail with large holes drilled in the sides. There is a fine mesh metal screen around the perimeter of the pail and another 8 inch diameter fine mesh metal screen cylinder inside. between the two screens I put exactly 10 lbs of pelletized activated charcoal. I've been running this set up for years and it keeps the house and exhaust odor free for about 6 months. Nothing fancy but very effective.

 

[LuvPB]

There's lots of room in there right now. Looks perfect, mines only 4 X 4, but normal height. 22 of mine is a crowd till the flowereing room is free. Looks like the little woman must have set it all up for you, did you at least hand her the tools.
So they flowering as of Sunday for sure? Wonder how much taller they'll be by then?

 

[smilley]

Flowering on Sep 1st so still 9 days of veg left. I'm not too concerned about the height as I'll be topping them between the 4th and 5th leaf sets. I'll be repotting into the final 5 gal rectangular pails in about 6 days. The clone mother that I'll be keeping back in veg will go into a smaller 2.5 gal pot to keep height down in the veg room. Hoping to get a dozen or so clones from her after another 6 weeks or so of veg. The trick will be trying to get the clones rooted and ready for flower when the seed plants are just finishing. Again, I'm basing all my calculations on a 12 week cycle, so if they end up taking 14+ weeks in flower, the clones will be monsters by then.

 

[smilley]

This is my old horizontal flowering fixture. Its served me well for years, but I'm going vertical for this season so off it goes.

This is the new set up, bare bulb, vertical configuration.....................

And finally here is the Honeywell fan thats going under the lamp. $12 from Superstore, quite a bargain.

 

[LuvPB]

You'll figure it out for sure in a crop or two. It'll be cool comparing the 3 in flower to the one in veg.

 

[smilley]

Day 24 veg:

Here's a pic of the 4 ladies side by side. The first and third from the left are really getting busy. Taller, bigger leafs, more advanced branching and more leaf sets. I've got a feeling they'll be monsters. The second from the left is just a little behind in total leaf sets, but seems to have shorter internodes and slightly less branch development. It just seems like a little more compact plant. I've almost decided to keep it as my clone mother. If its a little less vigorous it'll suit my production needs just fine. I just hope it packs a good buzz. I still have a few days before repotting so if anyone has a better idea for a keeper please let me know. Maybe one of the larger ones would be a better choice, I don't know. The fourth one from the left is way behind in leaf development, leaf sets, branching and overall vigor. I'm pretty sure I won't be keeping it for cloning.

Just a quick note- I staked and straightened the first from the left with a piece of coathanger and twist-tie, sorry no pic

 

[smilley]

Here's a couple of close ups of the two larger ones right after topping. I managed to get my scissors in and take off the terminal bud without damaging the fourth leafset branch nodes. I normally would have waited another day or two but I'm going out of town again for 3 nights and wanted to force as much branching before flower as I could. The other two will have to wait, I may let the smallest go untopped if it doesn't start to get busy.

The reason i took these two pics was to see how much vigor they really have. I'll shoot two more similar closeups in 4 days for comparison purposes.

 

[SOTF420]

Looking good, I would veg them out until they are a little branchy and clone all 4 of them then decide on a mother after you start flowering them since there is just really no sure way to tell whats going to be what until they go into true budding action. You don't want to keep the pheno thats only half as good as another one! I would say getting a clone of each should be a top priority if you really want a quality mother.

Now if you insist on picking a mother before flowering them I would pick the healthiest plant with the best stem rub aromas that you like and find appealing because these traits will likely translate over into the bloom stage but it really would be best to just take clones of each and veg them out to pick a mother from after the fact. You will have extra plants for next time around also ready to go into flower even before the others are done. Just some ideas but obviously these may or may not be feasible so that is your call! Much love!