two Commercial Question.

[interschlaf]

Wich Plant have the best commercial Pheno?

And wich System was the most Commercial way to grow.

one important thing for me is, to maximum the output in a year not in a run.

For example i have a 8weeks pheno and can get 0,85g/w.
And another pheno have a bigger output. 1g/w But needs 12 weeks to flowering.

What i mean is the maximum yiled in a year.

what do you say about ppp,green Hessin,?

interschlaf

 

[bobman]

Here is my advice, fuck commercial strains. Right now with legal states flooding markets you need to check all the boxes. Your weed needs to smell strong, look great and hit like a hammer. Get a chem, kush or sour diesel strain and hope to get a real winner.

 

[Mt Toaker]

Yeah the market is so flooded, and let me tell you from workin in a dispensary. There are 4-5 caregivers that come in a day to try and get rid of overages. We turn away about 80% of them because product isn't up to standard. Kush strains are great but really if it looks smells and tastes great with solid potency then you will have no problem.

 

[bobman]

Yea, I live on the other side of the country and we are getting a ton of cali here.

 

[Chimera]

This is a global site guys, many people are not from the US nor are they subject to its market pressures. From the words intershlaf has chosen I would suspect he is from the EU and not the US. The EU is a VERY different market than the US.

My suggestions would be:
Shanti's Critical Mass- good herbs, large yields.... a nice product that is easily sold in EU markets... I know a few EU growers rocking out many many pounds of this herb, and it is moved easily in multiple countries.
My GF X BB... very sellable product, and above average yields in about 55 days from 12/12.

The PPP (power plant) is pretty generic but yields well, and is a commercial staple in Holland. It's sells well all over the EU too.

There's lots of seed lines you could choose. Stick with something indica dominant or an indica-dominant indica-sativa hybrid, with a shorter flowering cycle. I would avoid the kushes, they typically yield on the lower end of the spectrum.

Hope that helps,
-Chimera

 

[bobman]

Your right Chimera. I actually have your mental floss and schnazz on my short list. I guess I should have expanded my remarks a little but gone are the days in the U.S. where you can have strong weed that looks like shit or has no smell.

 

[Chimera]

Same in BC Bob, the North American market has changed greatly in the past 5 years.

I am lucky enough to be able to travel and meet growers in many countries, and have come to learn that the EU market is a very different beast than the US one which demands not only monoculture (full bags of identical nugs), but also has a specific flavour and look profile that buyers demand.

In the EU, the market has not YET become so finicky. Autos are all the rage for stealth reasons, but this negates the ability to produce crops from clone and therefor you don't see large bags of perfect kush as you would in our markets.

Keep in mind, most EU countries have limits on electrical use with many households being limited to a Max. 3.3Kw draw... this probably has something to do with the need to grow outside, and thus the useful impact of the autos on early harvest, stealth etc etc.

-Chimera

 

[Hammerhead]

Wouldnt he have a much bigger yield using a lot of small plants then large plants for a years run? Have a few moms and take as many clones as he can and flower them.

 

[jm420]

my plan for the next run

 

[Chimera]

Agreed Hammerhead, more plants can be grown in the same space in less time. If the venture is purely commercial and you are not concerned about plant number, more smaller plants is the way to go... cuts down the time between harvests.

-Chimera

 

[Hammerhead]

ya im also going to try this. I hate trimming large plants maybe small ones wont be such a pain

 

[Guest 150314]

The right phenotype of Jack Herer or NLxHaze, something quick but stretchy enough that you don't have to veg more than a few days.

If you have a clone that takes ten weeks but needs only a few days veg you hardly need a veg room, use that extra space for flower and the electricity you save without veg to throw another few lights in the flower room. Remember if you are vegging under 4 lights 24/7 that is the same as 8 lights at 12/12. Thats how we do!

just over a week veg with this jack and im averaging 4 oz per plant in 1 gal of rockwool

 

[Lime Bubble]

This is a global site guys, many people are not from the US nor are they subject to its market pressures. From the words intershlaf has chosen I would suspect he is from the EU and not the US. The EU is a VERY different market than the US.

My suggestions would be:
Shanti's Critical Mass- good herbs, large yields.... a nice product that is easily sold in EU markets... I know a few EU growers rocking out many many pounds of this herb, and it is moved easily in multiple countries.
My GF X BB... very sellable product, and above average yields in about 55 days from 12/12.

The PPP (power plant) is pretty generic but yields well, and is a commercial staple in Holland. It's sells well all over the EU too.

There's lots of seed lines you could choose. Stick with something indica dominant or an indica-dominant indica-sativa hybrid, with a shorter flowering cycle. I would avoid the kushes, they typically yield on the lower end of the spectrum.

Hope that helps,
-Chimera

Howdy thanks for the info Chimera. Shanti already says that the CM is in big production through EU so thanks for the first hand confirmation.
Ive looked into production/SOG strains for years,
the problem i have with CM is that from the info ive gleened that it doesnt stretch and where production is top priority not vegging time especially zero veg SOG, its not efficient enough imo.
Id be interested in finding out how EU growers are making it work for them.

And GF x BB from everything ive seen is a perfect production strain, its fast, heavy and has a decent stretch, perfect in SOG to achieve some long bats.

The only issue thats held me back is that reports say its not strong smoke, judging by the parentals im not sure its supposed to be a strong smoke more daytime and uplifting.
Another thing is im not sure if GF x BB has 'mouth-coating flavor'.
'Flavor and effect', even reccreational smokers deserve

 

[The Phoenix]

I'd be looking at ChemD cuttings in SOG, 2 gallon pots, 42 plants per 1kw bulb, under a Raptor or XXXL hood, organic soil, with CO2. An oz per plants clears 1 gram per watt very easily. What more do you want?

I pulled 45 oz's with Sour Bubble last run indoors, and 47 oz with ChemD hybrid under 1kw. I think I can do better. Going 49 plants per bulb next run.
This is alot of work, but the rewards.
Dank pot gives you more money per lb and moves faster, so the slight extra flower time pays more in the long run.

 

[Hammerhead]

There is no other way thats more efficent then many small plants. Its very easy to do but labor intensive.The only part of the plant your interested in is the main stem top bud. Typicly you should get 28- 40g from ea plant evry 2 months. The more plants you can do the larger your yild will be in that year. Large plants need veg time so you need seperat areas to do that increases cost. If your not getting huge yieds with SOG there something wrong.

99 plants you should pull a harvest every 2 months. So you will get 6 harvest per year. Thats 594 plants harvested at 40g ea=23670g= 52lb per year or 36.6lbs per year at 28g per plant

 

[The Phoenix]

There is no other way thats more efficent then many small plants. Its very easy to do but labor intensive.The only part of the plant your interested in is the main stem top bud. Typicly you should get 28- 40g from ea plant evry 2 months. The more plants you can do the larger your yild will be in that year. Large plants need veg time so you need seperat areas to do that increases cost. If your not getting huge yieds with SOG there something wrong.

99 plants you should pull a harvest every 2 months. So you will get 6 harvest per year. Thats 594 plants harvested at 40g ea=23670g= 52lb per year or 36.6lbs per year at 28g per plant

Yeah HH, 99 plants per 1kw ballast in SOG, in flip flop every 60 days or so. Got to keep it under a 100 plants per site. That means clone/veg rooms down the street..LOL

 

[RollmeoneKenobi]

This is a very good discussion going on here. Thanks so much for the tips, HH and Chimera. I've been working and need to get back to my grow.

 

[Jacky_Brown]

Potent and high yielding strains finish in 60 days..

ak47
white rusian
pot of gold
jacky white

16 plants under each 600w
Good soil mix
Good ventilation
Handwatering if possible
Organic feed, I love bio bizz hard to over fed

Keep it simple and you will success

 

[nukklehead]

Always been a bush farmer but this thread intrigues me... what size pots you guys flower in for that ultimate cola harvest... I have a 1k and usually grow 8 plants veg'd for a couple weeks in 5 gallon and do ok.. how can I do better??? P.S organically only !!

 

[Raco]

Always been a bush farmer but this thread intrigues me... what size pots you guys flower in for that ultimate cola harvest... I have a 1k and usually grow 8 plants veg'd for a couple weeks in 5 gallon and do ok.. how can I do better??? P.S organically only !!

X18 under 600 HPS...soil ...10 l. pot