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Big Pharma set to take over medical marijuana market

mean mr.mustard

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This shouldn't be a game... I just like clarifying my position to assert my interest bentom :)

At this rate and method of development, I can't see individual cannabis cultivation legalized on a large scale EVER.

I sadly shake my head as I see this "game" play out... I just hope it's different than I fear.
 
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decarboxylator

lets not let people play politics with it then,it belongs to everyone.
thanks mustard,your a gentleman and a scholar. :tiphat:

you assume we control cannabis, and therefore have the power to "let people play politics". wonderful alliteration by the way. They (government and pharma) will do as they choose because cannabis is just a plant. As long as we live in the country, we are ruled by it's laws. You are in the game whether you like it or not. You can't choose to not participate.
 

lokes

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It just kills me when I see threads like this. Do we all forget why MJ is illegal in the first place?

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If Big Pharma gets into the game, (which they are totally against) goodbye Xyanex, etc, etc, etc which is much easier to make.

I will never grow another bud except for my stash, as there's way more money in Hemp.
IE-Fabric, Oil, Fuel, Food, Medicine,Paper, On and on!

I mean how are they gonna keep me from growing fields of Hemp if Pharma is growing weed laced with THC?

The money is the hemp not the MMJ, and RX does NOT want MMJ to replace their drugs they sell us for 10X the amount of manufacture.

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lokes

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Thumbs up to Russia and Switzerland. Both countries have legalized MJ. When big pharma pulls this off, yes states might legalize MJ, but the feds never will.
Way to much money involved.
LOL, are you serious? As far as I know there's no such thing as LEGAL, on the planet.
Not saying I know everything and I would love to be proven wrong on this, as that would be huge.
A major power making MJ legal, WOW!
 

bentom187

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you assume we control cannabis, and therefore have the power to "let people play politics". wonderful alliteration by the way. They (government and pharma) will do as they choose because cannabis is just a plant. As long as we live in the country, we are ruled by it's laws. You are in the game whether you like it or not. You can't choose to not participate.

all i want to do, is to open the floodgates and see this stuff grow everywhere,to me that seems like the only thing that would stop them from monopolizing the plant.i hope everyone drops the idea that it should just be for them. :smokeit:
 

crazybear

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LOL, are you serious? As far as I know there's no such thing as LEGAL, on the planet.
Not saying I know everything and I would love to be proven wrong on this, as that would be huge.
A major power making MJ legal, WOW!

I have no idea about the ussr. but they do legally grow fields of weed in Switzerland & openly smoked on a train going through the Swiss alps going to Zermatt Switzerland & nobody hassled the Swiss guy smoking the cigarette, I truly wish it was like that everywhere! My old lady & I would of smoked with him except we were with unfortunately uncool person, not sure any way I wasn't going to test the water's with him any way!!!!!!:wave::plant grow:
 

flatcurve

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Guys you don't have to worry about monsanto patenting all the mj strains out there or suing growers. first of all, you can't just patent an existing plant or a hybrid. it has to be a new creation, which means GM. secondly, last time I checked most of the seedbanks in the world sold seeds that were produced from stock parents. that means most seeds come from genetically pure origins and will continue to come from the same pure stock.

Monsanto started suing farmers because they were saving seed stock from their open-air pollinated crops. Typically that open-air pollination will result in crosses from mostly local plants, but if you're neighbor is growing round-up ready corn, then a certain percentage of your crop will be pollinated by his. Because most MJ growers do everything in their power to prevent open-air pollination of their crops, this isn't going to be a problem. But if we were all in the habit of growing dope like it was corn, then there'd be some issues.

As for the GW patents, it looks like a process patent to me because it covers everything from soup to nuts. If they were trying to patent MJ (the "reference plant" in the patent docs), then there wouldn't be any language about the process or final formulation. The good thing about process patents is that you can still produce and sell the same product, provided you use a different process to make said product, because the patent only covers a very specific "method of doing business."

"A method patent claim is only infringed when a single person or entity practices all claimed steps."

Of course until the government realizes that they're allowing corporations to sell marijuana derivatives for medicinal use in spite of it's schedule I status and legalizes the shit, all of this is a moot point. what's worse is that I think this opens up makers of extracts and compounds in CA to even more potential legal trouble with the FDA as producers of black market pharmaceuticals.
 

Mr. Alkaline

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It is my opinion...

It is my opinion...

...That 'they' cannot stop 'us' from 'Expressing' our 'selves'.

The actual plant is many, many things. They cannot bend one thing to replace all other parts/things.

We shall let the nutrition industry do a tko on big legislation 'for' us!!!:)
...Our function is to keep expanding cannabis expressions(imo)
And that expression expansion involves more businesses than the business of one monopoly???

As long as I still have a dendrite that reminds me where I hide the seeds, I am still the winner, not them.

They are coming for the Codex again. But now the codex is holographic widespread intuition,....at this point....cannabis is part of our flesh, and it's name is airbrushed in on the wall in our heart's bedroom:)
 

headband 707

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They did it here in Canada they just gave everyone who grows for medical reasons notice that they want Big Pharma and the Gov to take over and no more indivdual growers. Health Canada has pulled out. These guys are so slimmy that even I have had enough.Good luck fighting this one.. Headband707
 

headband 707

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you assume we control cannabis, and therefore have the power to "let people play politics". wonderful alliteration by the way. They (government and pharma) will do as they choose because cannabis is just a plant. As long as we live in the country, we are ruled by it's laws. You are in the game whether you like it or not. You can't choose to not participate.


LOL you know it's interesting that you say this because I did not choose these guys to represent me!! lol.. If I knew that our Gov was going to take the stance it has I would have picked a different Gov and said stick with the truth and all will work out. These guys have not played by those rules therefore I have a hard time recogizing them as my Gov. They make shit up as they go along so it works out for them, ultimately. This is obviously a Lawyers game and they can and will twist it to their favor and no one really wins with these guys. They will just get shuffled to another fight. I would not pick these guys to represent me in any way shape or form. I would have picked a Gov. in favor of cannabis and looking out for it's ppl's wellbeing. Not one that throws you in jail for cash. peace out Headband707

I heard that Costa Rica opted out of an Army and subsituted that for health care now that was smart and sounds like a great place too
 

lost in a sea

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...That 'they' cannot stop 'us' from 'Expressing' our 'selves'.

The actual plant is many, many things. They cannot bend one thing to replace all other parts/things.

We shall let the nutrition industry do a tko on big legislation 'for' us!!!:)
...Our function is to keep expanding cannabis expressions(imo)
And that expression expansion involves more businesses than the business of one monopoly???

As long as I still have a dendrite that reminds me where I hide the seeds, I am still the winner, not them.

They are coming for the Codex again. But now the codex is holographic widespread intuition,....at this point....cannabis is part of our flesh, and it's name is airbrushed in on the wall in our heart's bedroom:)

respect bro :ying:
 

merlin123

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Only people who will ever get to grow MJ on a large scale legally are the ones with pockets full of donations for our fine politicians.
 

Koroz

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Or those willing to go to jail for the fight. The "game" has turned into what they wanted it all along a war.

Decide now which side of the fence you are on. No longer time for good vibes and love hippy shit. Its time to fight back and get our country from the Militarized Industrial Complex and big pharma.

I would rather die fighting for what I believe in then live cowering day by day worried what will happen to my kids futures, some say its selfish that I do what I do with kids, I say its selfish to let your kids grow up thinking its better to be under the boot of oppression then to fight it every step of the way.
 

OLDproLg

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OH,CANADA.........??

What am i reading.....
More like NO, CANADA.......shit!

NExt step................USA.
DAMN.
 

Mr. Alkaline

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This is also part of the LARGER subject of 'cheap' Energy (btw)

This is also part of the LARGER subject of 'cheap' Energy (btw)

North America needs a greasy cash cropping plant to convert to 'fuel' for industry.

This presumption may mean that we are in a pow wow with corporate interests around the globe. A somewhat daunting challenge. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I know this cannabis is a threat to pyramid 'control' hierarchy(s).

Perhaps this is a part of the warfare against the middle class populous, and it's(our) ability to assume self-sufficiency, and efficiency in small quarters of farmland.

I will pray for a swift victory on our side:) we are on the right side!!!
 
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