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The most stable strain from seed ?
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SupaDupaDupa
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Your Joking, right?!
Not really, considering everywhere you look SoL SWT#3 and #4 beans are always sold out!
SGS
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Zealious
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Man I always had a feeling that selfed seeds would be most homogeneous.
If the gene pool comes from mother and father and said plant is providing both then my god you basicly have clones in seed form
Or maybe im clueless.
Either way my friend you have brought up a good point.
I think there should be more transparency in the industry. I wish there was a universal labeling system like with food.. One that only the most professional breeders would stick too..
Ie
Direct lineage and actual numbers.. out of 100 grown _ percent will have this or that pheno....
Or maybe people could just continue gambling on something which might have been some random hobbyists first pollen chuck versus some one who spends day and night working to selectively breed gods greatest gift to ganja.
IM completely infatuated with the romantic idea of c99... who the hell has the most brothers Grimm direct c99
Oh where o where ist tho brothers grim..
If the gene pool comes from mother and father and said plant is providing both then my god you basicly have clones in seed form
Or maybe im clueless.
Either way my friend you have brought up a good point.
I think there should be more transparency in the industry. I wish there was a universal labeling system like with food.. One that only the most professional breeders would stick too..
Ie
Direct lineage and actual numbers.. out of 100 grown _ percent will have this or that pheno....
Or maybe people could just continue gambling on something which might have been some random hobbyists first pollen chuck versus some one who spends day and night working to selectively breed gods greatest gift to ganja.
IM completely infatuated with the romantic idea of c99... who the hell has the most brothers Grimm direct c99
Oh where o where ist tho brothers grim..
^^^^^^^Gypsy c99 was done by DGS with original BG stock to make F2.
https://www.seedboutique.com/Produc...dList-Gypsy-Nirvana-Collection-C99-F2&Type=PD
https://www.seedboutique.com/Produc...dList-Gypsy-Nirvana-Collection-C99-F2&Type=PD
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deep chunk is the most stable strain I have seen. all are low vegging, low yield and powerfull effect narcotic.
There is usually nothing more to say after Chimira chimes in ... If you have only 10 seeds try and select the best male and female and find out what those straits are it's called selective breeding . 10 is not a lot of seed but work with what you have.Each seed is a possiblity of greatness lol peace out Headband707
Like Gypsy says it can all start from a seed
After doing some further research it seems Bogglegum from BOG is a true breeding IBL line now according to his response to me when I asked about the line compared to when it first came out many years ago. Even back then they were quite consistent and high yielding it grew right next to my original Swt's and they were about the same size. The Bogglegum's took about a week longer to finish & were very dense. Bogglegum is of course Bubblegum (White Label) x Northern Lights #5 (Sensi) I would feel pretty comfortable recommending these as a consistent high yielding & potent strain you can buy right now from seedbay/seedboutique and people here on the forum have grown some outstanding plants from this line.
Deep Chunk,X18....
My 4 x18 girls hermed like a mofo!
clusters, not nanners & in a room with 5-6 other strains. All others solid as a rock. So it wasn't me or my room.
My 4 x18 girls hermed like a mofo!
clusters, not nanners & in a room with 5-6 other strains. All others solid as a rock. So it wasn't me or my room.
Sorry to hear that...
do you have pics?
I have seen Depp chunk hermie when the prices where very high 300+ per pack of seeds. These where not from Tom they where from hill temple but where advertised as the real deal. You might remember Benji had this issue.
An IBL is only as good as the plant itself. In other words if you don't like this type of bud then IBL or not who cares. The idea behind a really great IBL that you like and of course a true IBL that has had all the shit worked out no hermies no more problems. You cross two IBL's to make an F1.. For many breeders I assume they feel they have worked the line and here it is. Yes lots of hype but again it's only as good as the line your taking it from.
I've never made an IBL so I wouldn't know how long it would take but I would think it would be a long time before you have it all worked out lol... peace out Headband707
I've never made an IBL so I wouldn't know how long it would take but I would think it would be a long time before you have it all worked out lol... peace out Headband707
I think the IBL work takes place over 5 generations of the plant, but don't quote me on that, might be a bit different.
Correct, in the case of mine it's a real IBL and now 5th generation from the P1 originals. Different breeders do have different goals when it comes to an IBL line but in the case of Sweet Tooth #4 it was already a very stable line to begin with in the sense that they had quite predictable results and despite different physical phenotypes they have the same general qualities, resin, aroma, flowering times, and much more. The previous generation (Swt #3) had already been backcrossed several times to SPG (clone only mother) and in the case of the SWT #4 it was inbred from selections Steve made from that previous Swt version which really in seed form was mostly SPG from all the backcrosses as he was effectively breeding out the BB part of it with the backcrossing to SPG over and over. That is why the line is predictable and very stable because it's mostly SPG anyways.
When you grow mine out you get typical Sweet Tooth #4 plants with very similiar traits to the originals from SOL and the only variations phenotype wise really come from the variety of 8 different mother plants used to produce seeds for this generation as I desired some variety. The reason offpsring from several mothers were used and are included in equal amounts in any packs of this IBL generation released is to try to help prevent any bottlenecking of the genetics down the line since they have now been inbred to 5th generation already and I know people may very well be making more seeds with them so with some variety from different parents they have the opportunity to find their own favorite plants and not just the consistent offspring from one male & female I chose.
Other strains like Flo, Blueberry, Northern Lights, Bubblegum, Skunk #1 and many more are also IBL's but are many more generations down the line from 5th incross from what I know. Some people think that by incrossing plants you somehow dilute the genetics but that is only the case if your selections are poor to begin with and ultimately it does depend on the parents you start with to begin with because that is what everything afterwards is going to come from genetically. As headband 707 said above: An IBL is only as good as the plant itself.
I completely agree with this statement although I would use the word strain instead of plant
If you can take quality parents from a quality strain you like that is already a somewhat stable line (like Sweet Tooth) and not some unpredictable random polyhybrid and you then inbreed it amongst itself using quality parents to at least a 5th generation of seed you will ultimately arrive at a true & pretty reliable IBL of that line that breeds quite true for selected traits. That is of course if all goes well and the grapefruity force is with you! 
When you grow mine out you get typical Sweet Tooth #4 plants with very similiar traits to the originals from SOL and the only variations phenotype wise really come from the variety of 8 different mother plants used to produce seeds for this generation as I desired some variety. The reason offpsring from several mothers were used and are included in equal amounts in any packs of this IBL generation released is to try to help prevent any bottlenecking of the genetics down the line since they have now been inbred to 5th generation already and I know people may very well be making more seeds with them so with some variety from different parents they have the opportunity to find their own favorite plants and not just the consistent offspring from one male & female I chose.
Other strains like Flo, Blueberry, Northern Lights, Bubblegum, Skunk #1 and many more are also IBL's but are many more generations down the line from 5th incross from what I know. Some people think that by incrossing plants you somehow dilute the genetics but that is only the case if your selections are poor to begin with and ultimately it does depend on the parents you start with to begin with because that is what everything afterwards is going to come from genetically. As headband 707 said above: An IBL is only as good as the plant itself.
I completely agree with this statement although I would use the word strain instead of plant
If you can take quality parents from a quality strain you like that is already a somewhat stable line (like Sweet Tooth) and not some unpredictable random polyhybrid and you then inbreed it amongst itself using quality parents to at least a 5th generation of seed you will ultimately arrive at a true & pretty reliable IBL of that line that breeds quite true for selected traits. That is of course if all goes well and the grapefruity force is with you! 
