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robbiedublu

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The iD

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like i said, and like i said:

TD said:
CME Hikes Gold Margins By 22% And Gold Drops by....0.4%, Resumes Climb

Just after hitting a new all time high of above $1815 in spot gold, the CME immediately sent out a notice to members advising that gold margins for Tier 1 members were increasing by 22% for both initial and maintenance positions, from $4,500 to $5,500. Unfortunately for the CME, this predetermined move was telegraphed to the market weeks ago, and with rumor 57 out of 22 finally turning out correct, this latest move only managed to push gold down modestly, and at last check was once again trading above $1,800. Just like all central bank interventions, which now have a half life between 1 hour and 4 days max, so this latest exchange attempt to subdue prices will fail spectacularly. Naturally, just like in the case of silver, this will merely embolden the CME to proceed with hike after hike, which in turn will kill speculative elements while merely reinforcing the strong hands. End result: in one month gold will be above $2,000 with almost 100% certainty.

and when they finally reach that 100% margin rate there will be no reason for anyone to not take physical delivery of their tradition. stay frosty,

-iD
 

RetroGrow

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Thought I saw a selling climax today, with machines doing most of the selling in last 40 minutes, especially the last 15.
Went 100% long stocks.
Expecting a large bounce tomorrow just on short covering alone.
I could be wrong, but that's how I'm playing this.
We shall see. I will be very quick on the trigger tomorrow on any downward move. They need to put a stop to this machine selling.
 

robbiedublu

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Thought I saw a selling climax today, with machines doing most of the selling in last 40 minutes, especially the last 15.
Went 100% long stocks.
Expecting a large bounce tomorrow just on short covering alone.
I could be wrong, but that's how I'm playing this.
We shall see. I will be very quick on the trigger tomorrow on any downward move. They need to put a stop to this machine selling.

Or, you could just go leveraged short the entire market (or leveraged long gold) and forget about it for a month or two or more . Don't have to be married to your computer screen that way.
 

iSMOKE.KUSH

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robbie hit the nail on the head, and it was a burning question i was going to ask. if you guys think it's that bad, fuck short term trades. why not just short sell the whole dow 30 and watch the money come in when the market crashes?

i own gold, but i really don't look at it as any sort of real doomsday hedge. if shit hits the fan that bad, gold won't matter for a very long time. if the whole world were to disappear and you were forced to fend for yourself, what would you want/need? shelter/protection/subsistence. what good is a big hunk of metal going to do for you? buy land, guns, food, a greenhouse. all the real militiamen i know, that are already up doing that shit in the mountains and have been for years, don't give a fuck about gold.
 

SpasticGramps

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why not just short sell the whole dow 30 and watch the money come in when the market crashes?
Who is going to pay you when all financial institutions and the governments are deemed insolvent? What currency are you going to be paid in if confidence in fiat is lost? I think iD has the right idea.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world. I don't understand why people think if your currency is destroyed and your zombie banks are found to be insolvent the world disappears. It's not like countries haven't experienced hyperinflation before.

It's not the end of the world. It is the end of modern (Keynesian) economics. It will be in the end of America's reign as the hegemonic state and it means a severe decline in living standards for everyone for a while. And if you don't think there is going to be a violent lashing out from the poor who are going to be hit hardest by all this then.......I don't know what to tell you. When we have income disparity like we do now some sort of proletariat violence is guaranteed. Do I really need to rattle off all the examples going on around the world right now or mention that the situation we find ourselves in is unprecedented in history and thus the collapse of said system will likely be unprecedented in magnitude?
 
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SpasticGramps

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Europe closed up today on hopium. We should get our short covering bounce today and no more apocalyptic news for the days it seems.

Europe may have been riding high on a rumor of a short selling ban released by the NYT. That was shot down right at close. I think watching Europe, SocGen, BAC, JP Morgue are key.

Rejected: A Europe-Wide Short Selling Ban "Does Not Look Likely"
Following the NYT debacle in which it announced there was a debt deal when there was anything but (in the process however sending stocks surging on nothing but what was proven to be a lie), today it appears the NYT may have gone for the double, after first reporting earlier that Europe is about to proceed with a short-selling ban. As of minutes ago, Reuters has reported that a short-selling ban "does not look likely" according to a regulatory source. In other words we are back to the yes bailout/no bailout that marked the European days of June and July, when the leakers merely gauged the market response to determine if the rumor should become policy. It seems that after having achieved the sought after (brief) market bounce on forced short covering, Europe has decided not to go ahead and impose a ban after all... At least until tomorrow's next -5% plunge in Italian and French bank stocks.
 

iSMOKE.KUSH

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It's not the end of the world. It is the end of modern (Keynesian) economics. It will be in the end of America's reign as the hegemonic state and it means a severe decline in living standards for everyone for a while. And if you don't think there is going to be a violent lashing out from the poor who are going to be hit hardest by all this then.......I don't know what to tell you. When we have income disparity like we do now some sort of proletariat violence is guaranteed. Do I really need to rattle off all the examples going on around the world right now?

i totally agree...it's going to go way beyond civil unrest. all it's going to take is all the people on welfare not to get their check one time, and the "hood" will rise up. when americans realize that grocery store shelves just don't magically restock themselves.

in effect, it is going the be the end of the world for many people. the middle class is going to get slaughtered and the poor will have it even worse.

gold won't be much good to me(although i own a good amount), i'll have everything i need up in the mountains back-country. i'm 24 and see this shit. best case scenario, everything stays the way it is, and i get to blow up the 5000 sq. ft. greenhouse for 2 more seasons. i'm prepared to succeed either way..can't let my kids down...

sorry for getting this so off topic, but you'd have to have balls of steel to trade in this volatile of a market.
 

joeuser

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Who is going to pay you when all financial institutions and the governments are deemed insolvent? What currency are you going to be paid in if confidence in fiat is lost? I think iD has the right idea.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world. I don't understand why people think if your currency is destroyed and your zombie banks are found to be insolvent the world disappears. It's not like countries haven't experienced hyperinflation before.

It's not the end of the world. It is the end of modern (Keynesian) economics. It will be in the end of America's reign as the hegemonic state and it means a severe decline in living standards for everyone for a while. And if you don't think there is going to be a violent lashing out from the poor who are going to be hit hardest by all this then.......I don't know what to tell you. When we have income disparity like we do now some sort of proletariat violence is guaranteed. Do I really need to rattle off all the examples going on around the world right now or mention that the situation we find ourselves in is unprecedented in history and thus the collapse of said system will likely be unprecedented in magnitude?

Let the "great culling" begin...

This ain't like the old days...the poor being the workers, the farmers, people scratching out a living. These are people who don't do/know anything. "Our poor" don't hold anything against us of value...they've got nothing to bargain with except their violence.

We can't afford to house, feed, and take care of them any more.

Interesting times ahead...
 

SpasticGramps

Don't Drone Me, Bro!
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The Greek tragedy that is the European markets continues. The desperation is palatable.

Milan Bourse is the Italian exchange. It's completely broken at the moment.

Milan Bourse Says Will Not Resume Futures Trading On Thursday For FTSE MIB
Just in case there was any wonder what the outcome of the refutation of the short selling rumors was, here it comes courtesy of Reuters, which informs us that the Milan Bourse has decided trading will not resume on Thursday for futures on the FTSE MIB. We doubt this is due to concerns of an explosion in buying. If Italy opens close to limit down again tomorrow, and the contagion once again spreads to France, expect an imminent resumption of a short selling ban, only to be refuted yet again 10 minutes before market close, concurrent with a day-long halt in all futures trading. And so on ad inf.
 

SpasticGramps

Don't Drone Me, Bro!
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This is funny in a tragic way. Look at this statue in front of the Milan Bourse. Take notice to which way it is facing. Away from the exchange and at everyone else.

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It is supposed to represent a salute to the problems that caused the financial crisis in 2008. As we watch the Italian markets meltdown the symbol couldn't be more ironic.
 

The iD

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im gonna fade this pop sooooo hard. nice that i got to offload my Aug calls, thought those were worthless. lets see if we cant pare 50% of todays gains into the close. today is fukin up my daily p/l avg. phantom support. tomorrow should be fun. stay frosty,

-iD
 

Zen Master

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I already got the biggest garden on the block and the lead to go with it. Just tryin to figure out what to do with this paper before I need to toss it into my bbq to fire it up.
 

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