The most stable strain from seed ?

[John LOQUE]

To achieve the best yield, the best way is to use clones or stable seeds. Each time i grow from seeds, i have i big plant and i smaller one, some fast and some slower.
So what is the most stable (and actual) strain you've ever seen ?
(Please specify the breeder)

 

[Mountain_Monkey]

As far as stability goes I'd have to say good old Skunk#1 or NorthernLights. I will say though that regardless of the genetic stability of the seeds, environment and many other variables will always mean that plants will grow differently to one another. Even when genetically identical they will be different to some extent, it's an inevitable outcome.

 

[hup234]

serious seeds

 

[Wiggs Dannyboy]

I'd say look for any seeds that are identified as IBL (In Bred Line). These are seed lines that have been worked over many generations to breed true for a few different traits, someone more knowledgeable than my about genetics might correct me if I'm wrong.

For instance, I bet if I go to the 'Boo and type IBL into the search function it will come up with some IBL strains....

.....and, I'm back! Came up with only 5 strains, I thought there might be more. Here is the link:

https://www.seedboutique.com/Products.aspx?search=IBL&name=IBL&type=search

There are other strains that will have high uniformity in seed crops, some strains might actually be worked enough to be considered to be IBL but just don't include that designator in the name.

 

[SOTF420]

You are going to have to be more specific about what you are looking for but I agree with the above post

If you just want straight females for yield and don't have time or patience to pop alot of seeds you need to find something that is an IBL line and probably feminized would help too. If you want something sweet there is Sweet Tooth, if you want something very dank and rotten smelling there is Chem D IBL from Rez, there is also a Sour Diesel IBL if you like the diesel. The list goes on and on so let us know more about what you desire in terms of aroma, effects, potency level or do you just want the most amount of Cannabis possible?

Anytime you grow from seed though there is going to be some variation, even in very consistent lines like Afghani #1, Skunk #1, or Northern Lights there are variations in phenotypes. Another thing you may consider is feminized "S1" seeds which are selfed seed versions of the female parent plant and will have little variation compared to a standard seed line. Few ideas there for you to work with, then find your favorite plant and make a mother & clone it for the most consistent results.

 

[redneck shogun]

I would suggest mastering the technique of low stress training.

 

[newbie2006]

My experience

My experience

I have tried to grow some 30 strains in total so far

Some with success some not

However the most stable has to go for Skunk #1.
Especially the TFD version, Sensi's alright but harder to find the killer phenos. Very vigorous girls to be found! I like to have Sk #1 around the garden, just to boost the numbers. Hate the leafy sativa phenos but the chunky sativa phenos are SOG monsters. Friends like the more Afghani-leaning phenos (for heavier slam) but I don't care so much of them, I think they don't work so well in SOG compared to the sativa superpower sisterphenos.

 

[Chimera]

Don't get fooled by the "IBL" tag; anyone who tries to tell you it actually means something in terms with uniformity or stability has something to sell you.

Some of those IBL seeds you see for sale have never even been flowered out to completion, so take it for what it's worth.... which ain't much.

Don't believe the hype.


Additionally, you are not looking for stability- you are looking for uniformity. Uniformity refers to the ability of individuals within a seed line to all look and perform similarly in terms of stature, potency, yield etc. True F1's are yuor best bet for uniform crops (from seed) in cannabis.

Stability on the other hand refers to the true-breeding nature of a seed line, ie when the line is mated amongst itself, it is reproduced in terms of the traits that made it useful in the original F1 generation. Very few drug cannabis seed lines are truly "true-breeding" in context of what we have come to expect from other agriculturally important crops. This is why crop reproduction from clones has taken over in most competitive markets, where buyers demand uniformity.

If you are growing from seed, expect a run with some degree of variation. Keep clones and reproduce your next uniform crop from from a single plant if you expect uniformity.

-Chimera

 

[bocil]

Is a good answer Chimera

 

[DRorganic]

try a c99 every one that i have grown are very uniform .the only thing is smell /pheno grapefruit to pineapple to fruit punch but the plants are the same.

 

[jm420]

IMO for what your asking yeild and uniformity.The only way to get it is to run multiple clones from 1 mother.select the strongest cuts and go from there.

Its a lot easier said than done but find a keeper in any genetics you like .and away you go
.If yor trying to cash crop definately start with Serious white russian or ak SS Wr

 

[John LOQUE]

IMO for what your asking yeild and uniformity.The only way to get it is to run multiple clones from 1 mother.select the strongest cuts and go from there.

Its a lot easier said than done but find a keeper in any genetics you like .and away you go
.If yor trying to cash crop definately start with Serious white russian or ak SS Wr

How long did you veg these ladies before the flip. They are awesome, indeed !!!

 

[jm420]

How long did you veg these ladies before the flip. They are awesome, indeed !!!

30 days dwc

 

[DocLeaf]

GDS Angel Dust by GrowDoc is the most homogeneous seed line we ever grew (x200+).

The edge of a GDS AD garden 2005

although there was some individual variation between scent and effect the structure and height of the plants at 65 days harvest where reasonably the same.

Same seed variety and year , different garden...



GDS Angel Dust has been selective inbred over many seasons.. so from x100 seeds we'd expect to harvest x50 plants similar to these as standards without training or manipulation.

Hope this helps

 

[Max Headroom]

i have no experience smoking or growing this strain, but i remembered it from the DP catalogue:

"Perplex is an extremely homogenous variety, which means that it is hard to distinguish between buds grown from seed or clones."

dunno if this is true or just ad copy.

 

[Krull]

Nirvana's NL is very uniform:

look for old school and inbred strains.

Peace

=K

 

[nickman]

Nirvana's NL is very uniform:

look for old school and inbred strains.

Peace

=K

looks great man ...

 

[Krull]

looks great man ...

Courtesy of the original poster (Andrii) on the italian board

Peace

=K

 

[DocLeaf]

Dare i say it,, but certain 'feminized' lines can be extremely uniform from seed. Critical is a good example. Much depends on the method of feminized breeding ,, whereby fem. in-bred-lines can be stable,, whereas fem. hybrids are as heterogeneous as their regular (m/f) cousins,

Edit: back to real seeds...

The only way to identify and observe uniform seed lines is to sow them by the 100s. every few weeks if possible. We only ever had this luxury / experience with Haze #19xSkunk (x1200 +), GDS Angel Dust (x200 +) and GDS Bubble Dust (x800-1000) .. as shown below

The corner of a GDS Bubble Dust garden 2006 ,, less homogeneous that GDS AD , but the line has since been refined by GrowDoc to make it more stable in consistency

Much depends on the method,, consistency only really comes with Standards or SOG (sea of green) methods with stable seed lines.

Since as soon as we touch, bend, cut or manipulate the plants,, we start to fiddle with the metabolic rate and plant hormones,,, and things soon change in growth and structure.

I hope this helps.

 

[zymos]

Since as soon as we touch, bend, cut or manipulate the plants,, we start to fiddle with the metabolic rate and plant hormones,,, and things soon change in growth and structure.

Then it's just one small step further to the the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle : as soon as you try to quantify those stable traits, you are already influencing them.

...or something like that...