very cool idea... how deep is it?
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glad to see some people interested in this, the bed is a 12 inches deep but the 2 bags of promix and bag of perlite only filled it to 10 inches.
i have a 11 week jack cutting that only needs a few days of veg to get huge, i have a tray of jack and a few OGxBS ready to go in a few days. also have some bc purple kush x chemdog and og kush x lemon thai vegging in 1 gal pots that are ready to flip but I think im going to fill the bed with jack and maybe throw in some seed plants i have going. this tent is not my bread and butter i have a much larger room i am mono cropping so this is more for fun, not going to be bummed on the yield.
my friend who was growing in beds on a larger scale said he had no problem with no run off, he doesn't feed very hard and said he had no problems with lockout or poorly burning bud.
i have long arms and can reach the other side of the tent quite easily so I am not worried about rigging up some support later on.
i have a 11 week jack cutting that only needs a few days of veg to get huge, i have a tray of jack and a few OGxBS ready to go in a few days. also have some bc purple kush x chemdog and og kush x lemon thai vegging in 1 gal pots that are ready to flip but I think im going to fill the bed with jack and maybe throw in some seed plants i have going. this tent is not my bread and butter i have a much larger room i am mono cropping so this is more for fun, not going to be bummed on the yield.
my friend who was growing in beds on a larger scale said he had no problem with no run off, he doesn't feed very hard and said he had no problems with lockout or poorly burning bud.
i have long arms and can reach the other side of the tent quite easily so I am not worried about rigging up some support later on.
supersmallgiant
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I have had an identical conversation with one of the guys at the local shop. Custom 4x4 smart pot in an ebb and flow tray and all. Strange...
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that sucks man, I plan on flowering them pretty small so I don't have to support them. I vegged these 2 weeks and they are flopping everywhere, looking like 3 oz a plant in 1 gal pots of rockwool. this cut of jack h is crazy yielder with no veg time.
i got roots, should have the bed planted this weekend. have to figure out the exhaust first.
tagged to this project, first time i see some like this , im veri curious!!!
hey awesome plants greenmango!!!
hey awesome plants greenmango!!!
LearningTheWays
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hmm.... I just ran across this literally a few minutes before seeing this post and it had me wondering!
http://wormsway.com/detail.aspx?sku=SPTL340
I could see SOG setup really taking off nicely in one those. What do you guys think for vertical tree grows though? I was planning on running 1 600 watt in a 4x4 a with 2 plants veggin for 8 weeks going from a 3 gal to 7 gal to 15 gal smartpot.
http://wormsway.com/detail.aspx?sku=SPTL340
I could see SOG setup really taking off nicely in one those. What do you guys think for vertical tree grows though? I was planning on running 1 600 watt in a 4x4 a with 2 plants veggin for 8 weeks going from a 3 gal to 7 gal to 15 gal smartpot.
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24 are jack herer and 3 are a secret
this is how i preferred to grow several years ago, before i took a break from the game...my first run back in i went with 1 gallon grow bags and seed stock, but now that i have nice big mother plants i'm getting my beds running again. i thought about making custom wood beds, but i was worried about dealing with leaks and rotting wood, also i didn't want any exposed wood to add to the acidity of the soil. in the end i found a few big ol Rubbermaid tubs at target that were just a few inches smaller than my cab, when set side to side. they are currently sitting in place full of recycled happy frog, waiting for another batch of clones too root.
i don't want to tell you how do do your grow but if you're not vegging you could probably space them a lot closer than you have, it's one of the benefits of bed growing, i usually go no less than 4 per square foot, or about six inches apart, but many strains can go 5 inches apart or even 4! for instance i'm working in an area about 2x3 feet and i'll be putting 40 clones in next week.
i have read the articles about plants growing in the same beds competing against other plants of the same species but from a different parent...one thing to note is that this study was only done on one kind of plant that WASN'T pot, and it was also a wild, outdoor population. as far as i have been able to tell there isn't any more competition in a bed between strains than say if you were running an ebb and flow table(which is basically the same as a bed of soil to the plants, or just a tight sog with individual pots. that is to say, they will always grow at different rates and the bigger you let your plants grow the more they will compete for light, making more and more, bigger and bigger leaves, but a very short sog with multiple strains and no veg will be a LOT easier to manage vs. a room of 3-4 foot plants of multiple strains...and of course, at least in my opinion, beds were made for short, tightly spaced sogs, it's what yeilds the best by far in my experience...
i don't want to tell you how do do your grow but if you're not vegging you could probably space them a lot closer than you have, it's one of the benefits of bed growing, i usually go no less than 4 per square foot, or about six inches apart, but many strains can go 5 inches apart or even 4! for instance i'm working in an area about 2x3 feet and i'll be putting 40 clones in next week.
i have read the articles about plants growing in the same beds competing against other plants of the same species but from a different parent...one thing to note is that this study was only done on one kind of plant that WASN'T pot, and it was also a wild, outdoor population. as far as i have been able to tell there isn't any more competition in a bed between strains than say if you were running an ebb and flow table(which is basically the same as a bed of soil to the plants, or just a tight sog with individual pots. that is to say, they will always grow at different rates and the bigger you let your plants grow the more they will compete for light, making more and more, bigger and bigger leaves, but a very short sog with multiple strains and no veg will be a LOT easier to manage vs. a room of 3-4 foot plants of multiple strains...and of course, at least in my opinion, beds were made for short, tightly spaced sogs, it's what yeilds the best by far in my experience...
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powerrobbie
Props for originality, never seen this shit before. I bet it's gonna turn out dope. I'll be watching
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Thanks dude, I got another tray that should be rooted in a few days. Should have another 30 to plant this weekend, the ones i planted have been under a single t5 in stasis for a week so it should not be a problem adding younger ones. They will get a week of veg and then flip. these jack h will stretch, next run im doing all kush. short tight SOG is the idea.
never thought of the acidity from the wood but i really doubt it will be an issue.
Hi from france, good luck to you with this grow operation. I've seen a grower using this bed method with very great results, i think it's a very good way to grow. You can put some plastic pipes in the ground to water plants directly to the roots. Use 2 or 3 T pipes in your bed and it gonna great. Bye i'll have a look at your grow to see the progress.
ya the acidity of the wood should be no problem for you, you thought ahead and put tarping over it, i know they used oak chips to tan leather in the olden days, because of the tanic acids in the wood, i don't know but i have read somewhere adding sawdust to soil can be a way to lower ph, so i just figured having a bare wood bed long term might cause problems...however now i feel like the dummy using 2 18 gallon tubs with the tops cut off. the problem with some rubbermaids is the edges are slanted too much, so if you don't fill them to the top you lose surface area, and i cut the top 8 inches off the tubs...it works for me though, i like to leave about 3 inches on the outside of the bed, and then i plant clones RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE! this gives you an extra row that wouldn't be possible with grow bags/sog. the roots obviously have plenty of room even on the side and the extra space on the outside of the bed is were i sorta lean them. i'm also putting my stretchy og kush clones on the outside edges, with shorter chemdog ibl's and a few la blanca's in the center. this way the tall ones wont overshadow the short ones. I just upgraded my internet so i may take a stab at making a thread, still a little paranoid about posting pics...guess i'll have to research in the security forum lol.
i'm really looking forward to seeing how your grow turns out! beds are truly the most space efficient method to grow with soil, since there are no air pockets between pots the soil is a lot lower, giving more room above, and without pot size to restrain you it's possible to plant every bit as close as hydro ebb and flow, which is i guess, what i figure is the hydroponic equivalent to a soil bed, since all the plants grow tightly spaced with roots intermingling...people grow like this in hydro all the time with multiple strains even and never question the feasibility, yet do the same thing in soil and people think the roots will go nuts and start an all out death match under the surface, it's just not true, after all the world is one big flower bed and that's as nature intended it....hopefully your thread can revive this very viable grow method on this site!
i'm really looking forward to seeing how your grow turns out! beds are truly the most space efficient method to grow with soil, since there are no air pockets between pots the soil is a lot lower, giving more room above, and without pot size to restrain you it's possible to plant every bit as close as hydro ebb and flow, which is i guess, what i figure is the hydroponic equivalent to a soil bed, since all the plants grow tightly spaced with roots intermingling...people grow like this in hydro all the time with multiple strains even and never question the feasibility, yet do the same thing in soil and people think the roots will go nuts and start an all out death match under the surface, it's just not true, after all the world is one big flower bed and that's as nature intended it....hopefully your thread can revive this very viable grow method on this site!
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Thanks for the positive words and suggestions guys.
I have had the plants in the tent under a single T5 strip waiting for a new batch of clones to root so they haven't grown at all in the last week or so.
I planted a bunch more today, they are og kush x lemon thai they have the same stretch and flowering time as the jack so I am not to concerned about having them mixed together. Its on!
This is a single jack plant in a 1 gal pot of rockwool that yielded 5 oz with a 2 week veg. 1 week and 50 plants under 2 lights should be interesting.
I have had the plants in the tent under a single T5 strip waiting for a new batch of clones to root so they haven't grown at all in the last week or so.
I planted a bunch more today, they are og kush x lemon thai they have the same stretch and flowering time as the jack so I am not to concerned about having them mixed together. Its on!
This is a single jack plant in a 1 gal pot of rockwool that yielded 5 oz with a 2 week veg. 1 week and 50 plants under 2 lights should be interesting.
NICE! ya this is gonna be good! subscribed!
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Thanks dude. I like your name, sloths are a funny creature. I took some hilarious videos of sloths when I was in central america. I wonder what darwin would think of them.
statefarmguy
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NICE!!
NICE!!
DUDE you talked me into it... looks very nice been in my mind now im gonna do it too going to home depot to build a bed..
!! haha i will follow you fearlessly .. LOL
NICE!!
DUDE you talked me into it... looks very nice been in my mind now im gonna do it too going to home depot to build a bed..
!! haha i will follow you fearlessly .. LOL
