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Groseph
Whats up gang,
New name..not new to the forums or growing.
I've got a new spot and want to put it to use, but cant for the life of me decide how I want to do it. I wont be living here so I have to keep it simple and reliable. I've got the following equipment at my disposal:
12 - Lumatek 600w Ballasts
4 - Lumatek 1000w Ballasts
4 - Phantom 1000w Ballasts
1 - MAX Fan 14
1 - MAX Fan 10
1 - boatload of blumats.
I'd like to go vertical, but an weary of going vertical and not being around enough when things start getting heavy and want to fall around and stuff.
The vertical senarios would be coco smartpots fed by blumats. I'm experienced in this, but still hate transplanting and having to haul in coco. (no attached garage). While I love blumats I have had the occasional one go dry or run away on me. This would pose a problem if not visiting daily.
12 600w (7200w) dropped bare bulb vertical - Plants in smart pots w/ blumats on floor
Same but with only 6 trees (7200w). I'm not familiar with growing plants this big and seems like while it could yield well, would be time waisting, require an assload of veg ($$), and if one plant is a runt or does bad it hurts the bottom line significantly.
Stadium with double stacked 600w lights (6000w).. 28 plants or so..2 tier..row on floor..row on shelf. I can run this no problem, but would definately have to trellis early and not slack as I cannot risk plants falling ...etc..could also do the same with 4000-6000w in 1k lights..
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Althought I want to go vertical..a part of me says to just keep it simple and do some trays w/ horizontal light.. boring I know, but I could run the below in my sleep. Trays would be 3x6 w/ 2 600w over each (4800w).. Would do 4-6 plants under each light in a mediumless ebb and flow. Foam insulation board lid ...system would flood 30min every 90 minutes.. no medium. I'm leaning this way because it would be fun to get back into hydro and I'd really like the simplicity of not having to transplant..haul in dirt. I could trellis these trays and pull them off consistently without worry of plants falling into lamps, etc. I also wouldnt be worrying about my blumats erroring out.
What do you guys think? I really want to go vertical because I know I can get superior yields...I've hit nice yields with 9 600w vertically over plants (not even tucked down in), but merely just hanging vertical over a garden. But because I wont be living here and will minimize my visits to every other day or so I'm leaning towards just going with trays/horizontal lights. Reflectors will be lightweight PL shields.. the ones that look like cereal bowls.. I wont be doing the aircooled thing.
Looking forward to your opinions. The above senarios dont put the 1Ks to work. I can always use them for another project... I'm leaning towards keeping this spot 600w units. It'll be for production purposes ..max yield with the least amount of work/time.
EDIT - I've also toyed around the idea of just hanging 5k vertical with a circle of ground level coco pots around each light except the middle. I setup a newbie friend like this and he is already hitting 1.5lb per light. I gave em some vertical 1Ks, some coco, and the head recipe (6/9) and he is an instant success. Dead simple gardening here..
Everything would be spaced a little tighter to the middle light. Middle light would be 1K Hilux MH conversions.. other 4 would be Hilux 1K HPS. Would also be more of a figure 8 so that those plants in the middle where not necessarily back to back as shown...
The above would really be awesome if each light spot was a 1800w stack like bobble does....with 3 levels of plants or so, but less plant numbers..more like 24plants per 1800w stack..no middle light..just 4 1800w stacks..
Would leave me at 96 plants here.. but no room for vegative or clones, etc..would have to be done elsewhere. Not sure if I wanna tackle this build though and experiment with unknown waters...
Really like playing with this room layout stuff...
New name..not new to the forums or growing.
I've got a new spot and want to put it to use, but cant for the life of me decide how I want to do it. I wont be living here so I have to keep it simple and reliable. I've got the following equipment at my disposal:
12 - Lumatek 600w Ballasts
4 - Lumatek 1000w Ballasts
4 - Phantom 1000w Ballasts
1 - MAX Fan 14
1 - MAX Fan 10
1 - boatload of blumats.
I'd like to go vertical, but an weary of going vertical and not being around enough when things start getting heavy and want to fall around and stuff.
The vertical senarios would be coco smartpots fed by blumats. I'm experienced in this, but still hate transplanting and having to haul in coco. (no attached garage). While I love blumats I have had the occasional one go dry or run away on me. This would pose a problem if not visiting daily.
12 600w (7200w) dropped bare bulb vertical - Plants in smart pots w/ blumats on floor
Same but with only 6 trees (7200w). I'm not familiar with growing plants this big and seems like while it could yield well, would be time waisting, require an assload of veg ($$), and if one plant is a runt or does bad it hurts the bottom line significantly.
Stadium with double stacked 600w lights (6000w).. 28 plants or so..2 tier..row on floor..row on shelf. I can run this no problem, but would definately have to trellis early and not slack as I cannot risk plants falling ...etc..could also do the same with 4000-6000w in 1k lights..
- -
Althought I want to go vertical..a part of me says to just keep it simple and do some trays w/ horizontal light.. boring I know, but I could run the below in my sleep. Trays would be 3x6 w/ 2 600w over each (4800w).. Would do 4-6 plants under each light in a mediumless ebb and flow. Foam insulation board lid ...system would flood 30min every 90 minutes.. no medium. I'm leaning this way because it would be fun to get back into hydro and I'd really like the simplicity of not having to transplant..haul in dirt. I could trellis these trays and pull them off consistently without worry of plants falling into lamps, etc. I also wouldnt be worrying about my blumats erroring out.
What do you guys think? I really want to go vertical because I know I can get superior yields...I've hit nice yields with 9 600w vertically over plants (not even tucked down in), but merely just hanging vertical over a garden. But because I wont be living here and will minimize my visits to every other day or so I'm leaning towards just going with trays/horizontal lights. Reflectors will be lightweight PL shields.. the ones that look like cereal bowls.. I wont be doing the aircooled thing.
Looking forward to your opinions. The above senarios dont put the 1Ks to work. I can always use them for another project... I'm leaning towards keeping this spot 600w units. It'll be for production purposes ..max yield with the least amount of work/time.
EDIT - I've also toyed around the idea of just hanging 5k vertical with a circle of ground level coco pots around each light except the middle. I setup a newbie friend like this and he is already hitting 1.5lb per light. I gave em some vertical 1Ks, some coco, and the head recipe (6/9) and he is an instant success. Dead simple gardening here..
Everything would be spaced a little tighter to the middle light. Middle light would be 1K Hilux MH conversions.. other 4 would be Hilux 1K HPS. Would also be more of a figure 8 so that those plants in the middle where not necessarily back to back as shown...
The above would really be awesome if each light spot was a 1800w stack like bobble does....with 3 levels of plants or so, but less plant numbers..more like 24plants per 1800w stack..no middle light..just 4 1800w stacks..
Would leave me at 96 plants here.. but no room for vegative or clones, etc..would have to be done elsewhere. Not sure if I wanna tackle this build though and experiment with unknown waters...
Really like playing with this room layout stuff...
