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autoflower, best breeder

I have gotten seeds a few times thru the mail and, most of them weren't even viable. Im not going to name any names, I didn't do enough research..

But I want an auto flower that is going to be in a confined area, SOG most likely, and sweet fruity flavor. Is a plus.

One more thing I was wondering is what is the optimal WPSF? Like what does the sun produce on the northeast?

Thanks
 
LR2 and Diesel Ryder have produced decent quality buddage at about 1 zip per plant. Brainless relatively simple hydro grows for me that stay less than 24" tall and do quite well under T-5's, but love my 430 hps or 1000mh, as well.
 

Krull

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Best af breeders?

- Joint Doctor's
- Mdanzig
- Stitch

you cant go wrong with their stuff.
In the AF forum you'll find a lot of info and grow reports.

Peace

=K
 

mdanzig

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Thanks for the mention. Im actually working on an O.G. Kush cross to where the O.G. genetics is from clone only. Acquired through back channels in Cali. This new auto really has that super dank "Kush" smell, and taste.
 

Fattie

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Definitely check out Secret Garden seeds. They seem to be the one to go with these days in autoflower. PinkBud and Fruit Salad both fit you're needs and I'm pretty sure they have stuff in stock. Definitely check out Mitch Connors work with them as well as SGS's grows and you will see immediately.

I'm pretty sure Mitch does SOG with them.
 

mdanzig

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Ironinc you mention SGS as we are in the first stages of finalizing a deal to do a joint project crossing Sour60 with Spyder.
 

Fattie

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That is another reason I mentioned SGS. Not necessarily your deal, but I see that respected breeders like Resevoir and now yourself are wanting to do joint projects.

I commend you for doing something like that because both of you can learn more about each others techniques and the differences between auto and reg. breeding.

Some auto attempts by respected breeders have stumbled and I'm glad to see some of you reaching out to learn and adjust.
 

mdanzig

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That project I was supposed to do with Rez never materialized, as he never contacted me after I PMed him like 5, or 6 times. Also for the record I think I have the name wrong. The breeder Im collaborating with is "Black Garden seeds" not Secret Garden seeds. BGS makes Spyder which is Spoetnik #1 X Lowryder.
That is another reason I mentioned SGS. Not necessarily your deal, but I see that respected breeders like Resevoir and now yourself are wanting to do joint projects.

I commend you for doing something like that because both of you can learn more about each others techniques and the differences between auto and reg. breeding.

Some auto attempts by respected breeders have stumbled and I'm glad to see some of you reaching out to learn and adjust.
 

uptosumpn

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So any kind of timetable as to a release date???? sign me up for one of your testers!!!! peace!
Thanks for the mention. Im actually working on an O.G. Kush cross to where the O.G. genetics is from clone only. Acquired through back channels in Cali. This new auto really has that super dank "Kush" smell, and taste.
 
I've seen the spyder strain it looks pretty good i was wonderning when some seeds where coming from that i am looking forward to it. But i did just buy some pink bud x fruit salad we'll see how it goes i have seen sgs work from mitch connor and it looks great.
 

SGS

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Hey FrostyNugs Nice to see you doing your homework on genetics this time round, it will pay off quickly. The best light for an AF SOG is a 600 watt HPS in a 4x4 area, and a good reflector. You can't reproduce the power of the sun, it produces around 100,000 lumens per sq meter and contains other radiation and spectrum of light you cant produce indoors at the same intensity.

There are a few AF strains that are ok in SOG, but that depends if you are wanting larger plants that seem to be the only thing AF breeders are focusing on now... or smaller single stem plants, a true SOG type structure. PINKBUD and Fruit Salad have been bred to be fast in AF SOG with the least amount of branching and stay less then 50 cm tall, with these 2 traits there is very little wasted below the canopy.


Now that OGRE is in its final stages of development and its work underway, there are 2 other projects that will be continued both of which are AF SOG type strains.
The 1st is an attempt to get back to the AF breeding roots, to produce plants that are super fast and compact, this one is shooting for fastest AF in the world, trying to get her to come in at 50 days from seed to harvest, or less. She is over half way into her breeding program, you will start to see her soon. The other is still in planning stages as patiently await the arrival of the Real Green Crack Clone.... hate the waiting!!


Mdanzig, Spyder actually comes from Black Creek Gardens bred by Canned Abyss1.
Hope you can make something good with it.

SGS
 

Desert Dan

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SGS and Mdanzig... Just recieved a decent sized order of auto genetics from sgs, mdanzig, lowlife, short stuff, etc. and just based off of the looks of the seeds I would say the quality of SGS and Mdanzig is head and shoulders above the rest. Not one immature or crushed seed from either of them, not to mention they both give 12+ seeds per pack. SGS and Mdanzig are leading the pack for sure and when SGS's auto Chem meets Mdanzig's auto OG the shit will be rediculous!

DD
 

mdanzig

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Mdanzig, Spyder actually comes from Black Creek Gardens bred by Canned Abyss1.
Hope you can make something good with it.

Ummm, I know this, I know The breeder personally. Im not some mewbie. I just posted it wrong, as I wasnt thinking. But good to see you got your seeds, as I was supposed to be the one doing the joint project with Rez, but we can see how that turned out. A bunch of bull as far as Im concerned. I was stood up and let down, and Ive been doing this longer than anyone except the Joint_Doctor. Im very disappointed, and I'll just acquire my own genetics, and not hound anyone.
 

SGS

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Ummm, I know this, I know The breeder personally. Im not some mewbie. I just posted it wrong, as I wasnt thinking. But good to see you got your seeds, as I was supposed to be the one doing the joint project with Rez, but we can see how that turned out. A bunch of bull as far as Im concerned. I was stood up and let down, and Ive been doing this longer than anyone except the Joint_Doctor. Im very disappointed, and I'll just acquire my own genetics, and not hound anyone.


Hey MD, don't know why you seem so bitter :comfort:, I had nothing to do with your deal with REZ. All I got was a few packs of CHEMDOG IBL to make a hybrid, its not like REZ sent me a personal clone to work with, the joint project is very limited to just that.

No one said you was a newb :confused: Was just making the correction is all. :hide:

SGS
 

mitch_connor

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That project I was supposed to do with Rez never materialized, as he never contacted me after I PMed him like 5, or 6 times.

Not meaning to stick my nose in at all, but I don't think Rez accepts PM's? I think you'd have to get word to him through the Seedbay team?

From memory reading the thread, it sounded like Rez was offering SSSDH to you for a joint charity project? Would have been nice to see.
 
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greenpharmd

Mossy, Mdanzig, and SGS all produce some outstanding strains in my opinion. These guys are awesome!
 

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