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Classy@Home
Ever get one of these emails???
I now spam them back with the following;
I now spam them back with the following;
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You're just wasting your time for absolutely nothing, mate. Sorry to be a killjoy, but it just makes no sense wasting your own time spending ten minutes composing emails to them you know they'll simply discard within 2-3 seconds, if they even see it at all ...
If you did want to waste THEIR time (as opposed to yours which is all you're currently doing) then it's easy enough to keep tagging them along, even asking them to post photos holding up a particular sign "so as to prove they're legit" etc - see http://www.419eater.com
If you did want to waste THEIR time (as opposed to yours which is all you're currently doing) then it's easy enough to keep tagging them along, even asking them to post photos holding up a particular sign "so as to prove they're legit" etc - see http://www.419eater.com
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Classy@Home
No probs P, I take no offense...
I am an immature old fart that has nothing better to do - hence most of my posts here.
Time is only wasted if you do nothing - I've done something.
I also enter their email addys at every porn, coupon, info site I can find.
Apparently most of the 419ers sit in inet lounges all day - I wanna cost them some xtra access time, that's all.
Plus, I get a kick outta taunting some folks (again, hence most of my posts here).
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Classy@Home
I'm a former hacker - used to be minor player on international scale.get a secure email account
My passwords aren't passwords - they are statements, complete sentences, and not in ANY dictionary file.
I fear no 419er hacking - trust me, I know the game...
Well mate, I disagree that you've "done something", if those two emails are anything to go by ...
BUT ... you sound like you WANT to do something, and if you want to get a kick out of genuinely wasting the time and taking the piss/mickey out of 419ers then it is actually VERY EASY (but you need to actually sucker them in rather than scaring them away with "I follow Satan" lol) ... again, start with http://www.419eater.com and go from there ... and I wish you the best of luck!
The more people like you who eat up the time of these 419'ers the better, but really there is a certain approach you need to do that, and your current one simply won't cut it - your current approach achieves 0% time wasting on their behalf, and 100% time wasted by you. It just makes no sense!
I hope we hear back from you in the coming weeks about successful baitings
BUT ... you sound like you WANT to do something, and if you want to get a kick out of genuinely wasting the time and taking the piss/mickey out of 419ers then it is actually VERY EASY (but you need to actually sucker them in rather than scaring them away with "I follow Satan" lol) ... again, start with http://www.419eater.com and go from there ... and I wish you the best of luck!
The more people like you who eat up the time of these 419'ers the better, but really there is a certain approach you need to do that, and your current one simply won't cut it - your current approach achieves 0% time wasting on their behalf, and 100% time wasted by you. It just makes no sense!
I hope we hear back from you in the coming weeks about successful baitings
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so you mean that nigerian guy telling me i inherited 15 million is lying. shame. i have got several emails baiting me but common sense allows me to see right through the scam. and i aint greedy
SmartPothead
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what a d-bagyou have got to be the biggest dumbass to not see through these scams lol
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Puddin'tane
yes yes Satan be praised! Cthulu would be proud..
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Well mate, I disagree that you've "done something", if those two emails are anything to go by ...
We all troll in our own ways. Apparently.
IMO you are not only wasting your time, but you are also setting yourself up to get more spam.
First off hardly any email accounts used for spam are ever looked at by a human (only bots log in and out) so your message will never be read by a person
Second off some spam outfits do not actually have lists of emails they target, they actually will just combine dictionary words, numbers, along with scraping old forums and pages. They will make huge lists of possible emails. If they ever get a reply from any of those emails, the bots are programmed to add your email into a separate list of emails they verified are correct. That is why you should never "unsubscribe" from blatant spam, half the time they aren't sure if your email is valid, and "unsubscribing" just proves that it was valid, and to keep sending.
First off hardly any email accounts used for spam are ever looked at by a human (only bots log in and out) so your message will never be read by a person
Second off some spam outfits do not actually have lists of emails they target, they actually will just combine dictionary words, numbers, along with scraping old forums and pages. They will make huge lists of possible emails. If they ever get a reply from any of those emails, the bots are programmed to add your email into a separate list of emails they verified are correct. That is why you should never "unsubscribe" from blatant spam, half the time they aren't sure if your email is valid, and "unsubscribing" just proves that it was valid, and to keep sending.
One of my favorites on the 419eater site is the one where the guy gets the nigerian to carve a wooden commodore 64 not only once, but twice.
Got a phone call tonight at 8.05pm, picked up the phone ...
<me> Hello?
*5 second delay*
<Indian guy> Hello?
*5 second delay, can hear my voice echoing*
<me> Yes, hello?
Anyway after about 2 minutes we'd established our greetings, allowing him to move onto the actual scam itself. *rubs hands together*
He exclaimed that he was from a service provider - I asked him to repeat the company name a couple times but it was deliberately unrecognisable. He said he had detected viruses on my computer, and asked if I'd had any problems.
The last time I got a call like this I asked for their phone number pretty much straight away, and they just hanged up, so I thought I'd change tack this time and play along.
Now, I've been an internet security researcher and malware analyst since the mid 90's ... ... needless to say my computer was running just *fine*, but I told him "yeah! It just recently started playing up".
<Indian guy> Yes sir, that is the virus. OK sir, can you see the Ctrl key on your keyboard?
<me> Yes
<Indian guy> Can you see the Windows key next to it?
(blah blah ... basically it took him 5 minutes to simply get me to the "Run" dialog window)
He then asked me to run "cmd" to go to the Command Prompt ... again not a very quick exercise with his poor English, pronounciation, and probably a general lack of computer skills.
He then asked me to type "assoc", which lists file associations (.mp3 is associated with your media player, for example). He then told me the last CLSID I could see, in an attempt to "prove" that he had indeed identified MY computer. (The reality is that the CLSID is static - it's the same on everybodys computer). "Wow! Yep that's it" I said. I don't think the grin on my face translated over my voice.
He then asked me to bring up Event Viewer, which again was a 3 minute process as he attempted to spell "eventvwr". "See all those warnings? They're because of the virus". "Ooooh, that makes sense" I said.
At this stage he thinks he has me hook, line and sinker, so he says "I'm just going to hand you over to my supervisor". So now I'm talking to a second guy, also Indian accent, just marginally easier to understand than the first guy. After introducing himself he asks me to go to Run, and type "www.ammyy.com".
Anyway at this stage I thought I had their website address and had had enough of wasting their time, so I told him that I worked in computer security for the Australian Federal Police (I don't). It was around this time he hanged up.
So I then did a quick Google, ammyy.com is a legitimate and safe website not run by the scammers themselves, but it's the home for a Canadian-developed Remote Administration software program. (Google results also show a lot of discussion about its use by scammers). He would've gone on to ask me to download it and install it, give him my IP address, and voila - he would then have full control over my computer. Another interesting aspect of this is that because he's asking me to download a legitimate remote admin program (as opposed to a malicious remote access trojan) it won't trigger any anti-virus alarms.
Anyway the phone call finished at about 8.25pm, so a good 20 minutes worth. I wasn't doing anything else at the time so it was no skin off my nose, but it was somewhat amusing to be wasting these scammers time and rupees. Have given basically this full report to http://www.scamwatch.gov.au
<me> Hello?
*5 second delay*
<Indian guy> Hello?
*5 second delay, can hear my voice echoing*
<me> Yes, hello?
Anyway after about 2 minutes we'd established our greetings, allowing him to move onto the actual scam itself. *rubs hands together*
He exclaimed that he was from a service provider - I asked him to repeat the company name a couple times but it was deliberately unrecognisable. He said he had detected viruses on my computer, and asked if I'd had any problems.
The last time I got a call like this I asked for their phone number pretty much straight away, and they just hanged up, so I thought I'd change tack this time and play along.
Now, I've been an internet security researcher and malware analyst since the mid 90's ...
... needless to say my computer was running just *fine*, but I told him "yeah! It just recently started playing up".<Indian guy> Yes sir, that is the virus. OK sir, can you see the Ctrl key on your keyboard?
<me> Yes
<Indian guy> Can you see the Windows key next to it?
(blah blah ... basically it took him 5 minutes to simply get me to the "Run" dialog window)
He then asked me to run "cmd" to go to the Command Prompt ... again not a very quick exercise with his poor English, pronounciation, and probably a general lack of computer skills.
He then asked me to type "assoc", which lists file associations (.mp3 is associated with your media player, for example). He then told me the last CLSID I could see, in an attempt to "prove" that he had indeed identified MY computer. (The reality is that the CLSID is static - it's the same on everybodys computer). "Wow! Yep that's it" I said. I don't think the grin on my face translated over my voice.
He then asked me to bring up Event Viewer, which again was a 3 minute process as he attempted to spell "eventvwr". "See all those warnings? They're because of the virus". "Ooooh, that makes sense" I said.
At this stage he thinks he has me hook, line and sinker, so he says "I'm just going to hand you over to my supervisor". So now I'm talking to a second guy, also Indian accent, just marginally easier to understand than the first guy. After introducing himself he asks me to go to Run, and type "www.ammyy.com".
Anyway at this stage I thought I had their website address and had had enough of wasting their time, so I told him that I worked in computer security for the Australian Federal Police (I don't). It was around this time he hanged up.
So I then did a quick Google, ammyy.com is a legitimate and safe website not run by the scammers themselves, but it's the home for a Canadian-developed Remote Administration software program. (Google results also show a lot of discussion about its use by scammers). He would've gone on to ask me to download it and install it, give him my IP address, and voila - he would then have full control over my computer. Another interesting aspect of this is that because he's asking me to download a legitimate remote admin program (as opposed to a malicious remote access trojan) it won't trigger any anti-virus alarms.
Anyway the phone call finished at about 8.25pm, so a good 20 minutes worth. I wasn't doing anything else at the time so it was no skin off my nose, but it was somewhat amusing to be wasting these scammers time and rupees. Have given basically this full report to http://www.scamwatch.gov.au
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^lmao. nice
i read that one a year or so ago on the 419eater site where they had the scammers hand write one of the harry potter books... i was laughing my ass off. good stuff.
i read that one a year or so ago on the 419eater site where they had the scammers hand write one of the harry potter books... i was laughing my ass off. good stuff.
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Señor Chang
I don't get many telephone solicitations anymore and thats a good thing.
What bums me out is that I cant talk dirty anymore when an anonymous person calls me. You guys should try it!
It is one of the most fun things in the world to do and sometimes the conversation actually lasts a while!
What bums me out is that I cant talk dirty anymore when an anonymous person calls me. You guys should try it!
It is one of the most fun things in the world to do and sometimes the conversation actually lasts a while!
btw there's a good audio clip from a late night talkback radio show where the caller is from 419eater.com and explains some of the things he's done and heard etc, it's both interesting and amusing
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=fdcd3a2a3afd47c4&id=FDCD3A2A3AFD47C4!750
File: SpoonmanInterviewwithanemailscambaiter.mp3 (Size: 10.1mbs, Length: 14:17)
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=fdcd3a2a3afd47c4&id=FDCD3A2A3AFD47C4!750
File: SpoonmanInterviewwithanemailscambaiter.mp3 (Size: 10.1mbs, Length: 14:17)
