DEA Denies Rescheduling Petition
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Ok. So it gets turned down. Now ASA can appeal. Maybe they win the appeal. Maybe not. Eventually it ends up in front of SCOTUS, Here is where the justices get to rule in favor of the ones who brung em to the party to begin with.
KnowBudz
Active member
I hope you don't rely on MSLSD as your only info source!
Of course, I doubt "pro-DEA statements" are terribly common...anywhere!
MSLSD, that's a whole lot better than PMSNBC. 
I am against them, but I must be the devil's advocate.
I have problems, I use marijuana for it. I also like to get high off my medication, because if they're not improving my mood..they are just not helping.
You see, I've smoked cannabis since I was 16, I am 25. I have seen idiots get too high, people who say 100% THC all the time, lets go for a burn ride and THEYRE TERRIBLE drivers high. I don't space out ever while driving...high. When I am not high I get all nervous and spacey.
I don't think I make my point clear when I say there are retards out there that don't deserve the rescheduling. There are responsible people also.
They just don't like the idea of a medication that gets you high. Not physically dependent high....but the type of high you will spend your money on because it's safer and makes you feel better in the head.
I think there are 2 things they are not telling us.
Alcohol has no accepted medicinal use...virtually. It kills, consumes peoples lives and makes people uncontrollable babies.
It can be taxed. It can be bred in THC or CBD versions as per GW pharamceuticals states. That being the argument to inhale crude burned plant matter as opposed to vaporized pure cannabinoid ratios.
It can be abused, but only to a degree. How many people will do the wrong thing and get it then sell it or smoke A LOT MORE THAN NEEDED. A lot. Things stopping them are smoking limits...they can only buy so much.....and the people who don't smoke and just sell it.....PRESCPRTION DRUGS ARE KILLING kids in combination. I dont see marijuana killing shit.
By the way the synthetic spice shit is outta control, people make their own and it's a full agonist and ADDICITVE. They turn to it instead, now it's illegal...but so many internet orders of the solution and plant that its still bad. ITS ADDICITVE AND ITS BECAUSE THEY CANT SMOKE REAL POT!!!
Something alcohol and weed have in common is the GABA system activation and therefore relaxation. The thing is cannabinoids signal this...alcohol just ruins it over time by poisoning it. Another thing is cannabinoids help process out negative emotions by disconnecting your emotion center slightly and bringing you into a safe place in the alpha frequency and the right-side which also gives an executive function release and therefore control.
What I bascially said is it's the nation's silent anti-psycotic and its responsible for STOPPING murders and homocidal acts and the thoughts along with them, but you didn't hear it from me. KEEP ON TOKIN and live free.
Id rather my EFFING granmother uses cannabis extract as opposed to a combination of heart-stopping downers and QT invterval increasing benzos.
It can also help with OCD, which I think is another name for being overly conscious about something that makes you secure but it's not needed...which is a lot of crap.
Everyone has the energy to fight and bicker, to be knit-picky and to be very tidy, to check the locks and blinds to do the water thing.
If you have the energy to be vigilant all the time and strict, how will you relax? No matter what you do as long as your mind can run....it will!
I believe its called "racing" by manic-depressive standard or just standards of mania. How do you stop "racing"?
How do you stop half your health problems AND mental problems......a GOOD extract, a cool head, a fair and honest approach.
It comes from something basically free from the earth. I think it's bigger basic rights they're actually violating..rather than just one. Because where there is one injustice there is many others from and around it.
I have problems, I use marijuana for it. I also like to get high off my medication, because if they're not improving my mood..they are just not helping.
You see, I've smoked cannabis since I was 16, I am 25. I have seen idiots get too high, people who say 100% THC all the time, lets go for a burn ride and THEYRE TERRIBLE drivers high. I don't space out ever while driving...high. When I am not high I get all nervous and spacey.
I don't think I make my point clear when I say there are retards out there that don't deserve the rescheduling. There are responsible people also.
They just don't like the idea of a medication that gets you high. Not physically dependent high....but the type of high you will spend your money on because it's safer and makes you feel better in the head.
I think there are 2 things they are not telling us.
Alcohol has no accepted medicinal use...virtually. It kills, consumes peoples lives and makes people uncontrollable babies.
It can be taxed. It can be bred in THC or CBD versions as per GW pharamceuticals states. That being the argument to inhale crude burned plant matter as opposed to vaporized pure cannabinoid ratios.
It can be abused, but only to a degree. How many people will do the wrong thing and get it then sell it or smoke A LOT MORE THAN NEEDED. A lot. Things stopping them are smoking limits...they can only buy so much.....and the people who don't smoke and just sell it.....PRESCPRTION DRUGS ARE KILLING kids in combination. I dont see marijuana killing shit.
By the way the synthetic spice shit is outta control, people make their own and it's a full agonist and ADDICITVE. They turn to it instead, now it's illegal...but so many internet orders of the solution and plant that its still bad. ITS ADDICITVE AND ITS BECAUSE THEY CANT SMOKE REAL POT!!!
Something alcohol and weed have in common is the GABA system activation and therefore relaxation. The thing is cannabinoids signal this...alcohol just ruins it over time by poisoning it. Another thing is cannabinoids help process out negative emotions by disconnecting your emotion center slightly and bringing you into a safe place in the alpha frequency and the right-side which also gives an executive function release and therefore control.
What I bascially said is it's the nation's silent anti-psycotic and its responsible for STOPPING murders and homocidal acts and the thoughts along with them, but you didn't hear it from me. KEEP ON TOKIN and live free.
Id rather my EFFING granmother uses cannabis extract as opposed to a combination of heart-stopping downers and QT invterval increasing benzos.
It can also help with OCD, which I think is another name for being overly conscious about something that makes you secure but it's not needed...which is a lot of crap.
Everyone has the energy to fight and bicker, to be knit-picky and to be very tidy, to check the locks and blinds to do the water thing.
If you have the energy to be vigilant all the time and strict, how will you relax? No matter what you do as long as your mind can run....it will!
I believe its called "racing" by manic-depressive standard or just standards of mania. How do you stop "racing"?
How do you stop half your health problems AND mental problems......a GOOD extract, a cool head, a fair and honest approach.
It comes from something basically free from the earth. I think it's bigger basic rights they're actually violating..rather than just one. Because where there is one injustice there is many others from and around it.
that is my point, DEA is seen as a corrupt organization by too many
the prohibition continues only because of bureaucratic inertia
the number of politicians that get voter brownie points for trashing MJ is shrinking
and i'm seeing more progress on this issue, it's not going away
it may seem like they can grow forever, but they have limits
take any trend and extrapolate it out, it becomes silly
the government's ability to spend is not infinite, and that is coming up with a vengeance in the current budget talks
the prez alone can't undo what congress (house + senate) + president passes. reform will take an act of congress.
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS DECISION LEFT UP TO THE DEA! THEY ARE NOT SCIENTIST! THEY ARE NOT DOCTORS! THEY HAVE ZERO QUALIFICATION TO MAKE THESE CHOICES FOR AMERICA! FUCK THEM! THEY ARE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUREAUCRACY THAT SHOULD NOT EXIST NOR SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN CREATED.
THE DEA MUST BE DISBANDED< BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY! THEY ARE HOLDING BACK ALL OF HUMANITY! THEIR 40 YEARS OF NAZI GESTAPO ACTIONS EFFECTS THE ENTIRE PLANET. THEY MUST BE STOPPED!
THE DEA MUST BE DISBANDED< BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY! THEY ARE HOLDING BACK ALL OF HUMANITY! THEIR 40 YEARS OF NAZI GESTAPO ACTIONS EFFECTS THE ENTIRE PLANET. THEY MUST BE STOPPED!
DEA= Against everything ding-turn around-ding german word for thing..
Remember,we must not Discriminate : ) hmm
Remember,we must not Discriminate : ) hmm
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Midnight Rudy
Member
Exactly!!!! This is about the big picture and the appeal will just be another avenue for our movement to gain steam. The overall public view is swinging over to our side. Exponentially actually! If popular opinion gets much more in favor of ending prohibition we will have that on the list of "views" on every politicians website right next to baby killing and butt sex!
Their position is about "smoked" marijuana. that's really what it is down to now... smoke can agitate your lungs and make you cough, and if you smoke 20 joints a day for 20 or 30 years you have a good chance of getting lung cancer or emphysema. Big pharma is going to be getting in this game eventually so pretty soon all they will have will be smoke. Or they may trace some oddball terpine or cannabinoid that is in natural MJ and vilify that for awhile. Thanks for saving us DEA! Hopefully that will come out in these trials and then we will be able to make comparisons to tobacco and otherwise do testing that the FDA/DEA must recognize.
This isn't going to be an overnight fix, but this is very good news for the movement.
uuHH..?The U.S. already has a patent on cannabis? as a medical benefit?
U.S. Government owns the patent on cannabis cures...
RON PAUL...
For those of you who still have any doubts as to the miraculous healing powers of cannabis and THC Oil or do not believe that there is an ongoing international effort dead set on keeping this free and 100% organic medicine, along with all organic foods, supplements, and natural medicines from a diseased and dying global population... I am about to BLOW YOUR MINDS......
http://www.dailypaul.com/153097/us-government-owns-the-patent-on-cannabis-cures
Midnight Rudy
Member
This was my point. everything in cannabis is beneficial so all they have left to bitch about is the smoke delivery system. Or they can just lie some more, but the American public is moving beyond just blindly following their government. Well, many of us are. In our information rich society, people want the truth in 2 clicks or less. It won't be long before everybody, not just smokers, will want an answer to why we are spending billions on perpetuating our black market for cannabis.
"No because I said NO" doesn't work on our kids at home, and it certainly won't work on American adults if they have a different opinion. This movement is not only gaining steam from the standpoint of legalizing cannabis, but it is gaining steam from the standpoint of government control and manipulations, and state rights vs federal interference. IMHO it is the non-users who will win this war for us so we need to help them understand how they are being effected by this. The movement is going this way and we need to support that momentum.
But it does work. When you're a parent and you don't have a good argument or you're just tired of justifying yourself, you end the discussion with "because I said so." As a parent, you have the final say. There is no appeal. There is no higher authority. Not that your kids will obey, but you've made your position clear.
Same thing with the DEA. They don't have to justify their decision. There is no one to appeal to (at least no one that will make a difference). They answer to no none. There is no higher authority. Therefore, "because I said so" has been, is, and will continue to be all that is necessary to keep marijuana in Schedule 1.
And you can't really blame them. If I had to make a decision that would either keep me and my co-workers employed versus very likely causing a lot of my co-workers to lose their jobs, I think it would be a pretty easy decision. The real problem is giving this power to the DEA in the first place.
executive order:
whereas the united states government has filed patents for medicinal uses of cannabis(marijuana) and thereby acknowledged the medical uses of cannabis(marijuana). As several of these states united have recognized the medicinal value of cannabis(marijuana).
As of this day(insert date here)it is the order of the executive that henceforth cannabis (marijuana) be scheduled II by the FDA.
no act of congress needed.
whereas the united states government has filed patents for medicinal uses of cannabis(marijuana) and thereby acknowledged the medical uses of cannabis(marijuana). As several of these states united have recognized the medicinal value of cannabis(marijuana).
As of this day(insert date here)it is the order of the executive that henceforth cannabis (marijuana) be scheduled II by the FDA.
no act of congress needed.
thinkin
Member
big govt wont change by itself
big govt wont change by itself
big governments biggest love...
bigger budgets.
DEA wont help the public. They are in the business to jail/rob the public.
Only the public vote will move the MJ agenda forward.
Otherwise, dead in the water.
This presidential election is going to be HUGE for MJ.
Clearly biggest/ chance for change.
Ron Paul -thank you for making MJ a presidential topic.
big govt wont change by itself
big governments biggest love...
bigger budgets.
DEA wont help the public. They are in the business to jail/rob the public.
Only the public vote will move the MJ agenda forward.
Otherwise, dead in the water.
This presidential election is going to be HUGE for MJ.
Clearly biggest/ chance for change.
Ron Paul -thank you for making MJ a presidential topic.
