Obama Declares All-Out War on Medical Marijuana

[Hydrosun]

Republic means we don't have a throne. You simply don't like the democratic process. Nothing new here.

Perhaps "like" isn't the correct term, the process as practiced seems to be flawed and harmful to the very rights the Constitution is supposed to protect.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Perhaps "like" isn't the correct term, the process as practiced seems to be flawed and harmful to the very rights the Constitution is supposed to protect.

Then perhaps "like" is the wrong characterization, especially when the post says "don't like".

 

[dagnabit]

Republic means we don't have a throne. You simply don't like the democratic process. Nothing new here.

republic simply means we dont have a throne if you really are quite simple.

but you know that i've shown you the dictionary.

 

[dagnabit]

funny the focus is on the use of the word usurper as opposed to F&F
go figure

who cares if guns used to kill americans were sold to the killers by the ATF under this executive?

this guy used the word usurper!!!

lmfao!

you guys didn't care when we sold guns to iran for to give our friends the contras some cash and some marching powder right?

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Republic means we don't have a throne. You simply don't like the democratic process. Nothing new here.

Point one out to me Bro. LOL

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Interesting little presentation.

Interesting little presentation.

Kinda sheds light on things a bit. I stay out of flocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3jfAggnZM&feature=player_embedded

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

republic simply means we dont have a throne if you really are quite simple.

but you know that i've shown you the dictionary.

If I remember correctly, you acquiesced after being called a hypocrite and a troll. Oh, wait... that was when you took issue with democratic republic.

I even reminded you that your own dictionary reference contrasts king and republic (no king).

Feel free to add any context that applies to (American) republic, otherwise you're trolling.

Point one out to me Bro. LOL

Dag's a bit persnickety on this one too. I think you two would get along swell.

 

[dagnabit]

If I remember correctly, you acquiesced after being called a hypocrite and a troll.

nope you remember incorrectly..

i just ignored you devolving like i normally do...

feel free to tell me what context you approve of to change Def 1 to def 4 in the OED

if i "acquiesced" every time you called me a hypocrite or a troll id be a doormat (as this is part 3 of the 'ol trifecta)
you remember
I. bitch about context
II. attempt to elicit emotion/divert to semantics
III. wax intellectual with thinly veiled(if at all) insults while crying foul where no ad hominem exists.


as an aside can anyone explain when a dictionary has 4 definitions for a single word why are they in the order they are in?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Feel free to add any context that applies to (American) republic...

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[Red Fang]

the underground railroad?

no that's what the aliens are building under us so when the Iluminati finally enslave us all the real masters can move in and exploit everything! You conspiracy nuts (not you donald) crack me up!

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

Voting for the lesser of two evils isn't loads of fun. I sometimes get the impression we have very young members and/or they're uninterested in the political process. Excepting legalized weed, of course.

why are none of you at least mentioning Ron Paul? http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was...ced-to-congress-by-ron-paul-barney-frank.html

Marijuana bill officially introduced to Congress by Ron Paul, Barney Frank
June 23, 2011 | 4:16 pm

Marijuana laws should be set at the state, not federal, level, Reps. Ron Paul and Barney Frank argued in a bill they introduced Thursday.

The goal of the bill, HR 2306, is not to legalize marijuana but to remove it from the list of federally controlled substances while allowing states to decide how they will regulate it.

"I do not advocate urging people to smoke marijuana. Neither do I urge them to drink alcoholic beverages or smoke tobacco," said Frank (D-Mass.). "But in none of these cases do I think prohibition enforced by criminal sanctions is good public policy.

"Criminally prosecuting adults for making the choice to smoke marijuana is a waste of law enforcement resources and an intrusion on personal freedom," he added.

Frank admitted in a conference call Thursday that he didn't think the bill had a chance of passing, but according to Reason's Hit & Run blog, the congressman was "particularly struck by the hypocrisy of public officials who will themselves talk about smoking marijuana, wink at it, and then make it criminal for other people," which leads to "a very discriminatory pattern of enforcement."

The bill appears doomed on arrival, according to the Associated Press, which reported that House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith said his panel, which the proposed law is required to venture through, would not even consider it.

"Marijuana use and distribution is prohibited under federal law because it has a high potential for abuse and does not have an accepted medical use in the U.S.," said Smith, who like Paul is a Texas Republican. "The Food and Drug Administration has not approved smoked marijuana for any condition or disease."

Smith cited the theory that pot is a gateway drug, and then added the curious belief that legalizing weed would increase the coffers of drug lords.

"Decriminalizing marijuana will only lead to millions more Americans becoming addicted to drugs and greater profits for drug cartels who fund violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. Allowing states to determine their own marijuana policy flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent," Smith said.

The Office of National Drug Control Policy echoed some of Smith's fears and said decriminalizing pot was a nonstarter.

"Our concern with marijuana is not borne out of any culture war or drug war mentality, but out of what the science tells us about the drug’s effects. The facts are that marijuana potency has tripled in the past 20 years and teens are using the drug at earlier ages," the office said in a statement to The Times.

"The earlier a person begins to use drugs, the more likely they are to progress to more serious abuse and addiction -– reflecting the harmful, long-lasting effects drugs can have on the developing brain. Legalization remains a nonstarter in the Obama administration because research shows that marijuana use is associated with voluntary treatment admissions, fatal drugged driving accidents and emergency room admissions," the statement said.

and this last page alone is a great example of our stupid squabbling preventing us from doing anything productive.

 

[dagnabit]

Feel free to add any context that applies to (American) republic, otherwise you're trolling.

re·pub·lic   
[ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.

do you really need me to somehow add context to the dictionary?

i think you need to add context to suit your use of the 4th.

 

[bruceinpacifica]

I just ran across this on another forum (prospecting). Not sure if this has been posted on IC yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFr_j6kdI&feature=youtu.be

It's about samart meters & the fact that your electric company is watching you & selling that info.

Everyone that grows needs to watch this regardless of where you live & the legality of growing in your state

 

[bruceinpacifica]

I checked my meter this afternoon & it's a smart meter. I emailed the Public Utilities Commision per directions in the linked video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFr...ature=youtu.be
I explained to them that because the meter was in a place that the public had access to I wouldn't be held responsible if it should have an accident or two.
There's enough government intusion in our lives.
Cheers,
bruce

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Makes you want to move off grid. There are some pretty cool electric motorcycles. Both Enduros and ninja style. One does over 100 mph.
Wouldnt that be nice to have a off grid set up where your house, car, and motorcycle are powered most of the time for free?

Makes me want to retire and do that. Go fishin everyday, grow both food and weed. Sell excess vegetables at the farmers market. What a life!

Yep ! Fuck Smart meters. They are a dumb idea.

 

[easyrasta]

doesnt seem like all out war to me.
its the million dollar businesses they are targeting.
now i understand the attacking part of the business is attacking it all, but
they have consistantly said they dont want big grow ops.
peace
ez

 

[mofeta]

doesnt seem like all out war to me.

Hi ez. I agree, but the chilling effect of the memo is pretty big, and it sends a signal to local chota that they can bust at will.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

if yer making bank

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Well I wish my Chota made bank, but it doesnt...

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I certainly wouldn't wish you troubles either way, Dr. IMO, you're not on the radar. Stay safe should anything change.