daddyweez2000
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Ive spent about 4 hours looking for a EWC tea. It was about two years ago. Actually there were 2 recipes,1 for a fungal brew and a bacterial brew. Is there anyone out there with it. Please help.
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Ive spent about 4 hours looking for a EWC tea. It was about two years ago. Actually there were 2 recipes,1 for a fungal brew and a bacterial brew. Is there anyone out there with it. Please help.
Happy to help.
Guano Tea and Kelp:
Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.
Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
***3 TBS/gallon liquid seaweed*** or 5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.
Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.
The little part that says, "***3 TBS/gallon liquid seaweed***" is something I added myself so take it with a grain of salt
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who dat is - where did you get this tea from and have you taken any culture samples?
Slangheat
Member
thats a cut and paste from the Organics for Beginners thread
got cha, thanks.
organicterra
Member
I tend to do something like this:
4 gallons
1.5- 2 cups ewc/compost mixture
1/4 cup alfalfa meal
1 tbs kelp meal
1 tbs molasses
1 tbs fish hydolysate
4 gallons
1.5- 2 cups ewc/compost mixture
1/4 cup alfalfa meal
1 tbs kelp meal
1 tbs molasses
1 tbs fish hydolysate
daddyweez2000
Member
why would you add the nutes after brewing? wouldnt the bacteria break the nutes down quicker?
i would counsel people not to add anything at the end of a brew.
make your tea and apply it and don't get all creative.
you can always use the nutes next watering
make your tea and apply it and don't get all creative.
you can always use the nutes next watering
It is actually better to not add nutrients to a brewed tea as you compromise the dissolved oxygen level available to your microbes which you have just multiplied over the past 24 to 40 hours. The reason for making compost tea is for the increased microbial population which will cycle the residual nutrients in the tea, in the bodies of the bacteria and fungi and which are in your soil/media. It is better to apply nutrients separately either before of after applying compost tea.
Dark; I think way more efficient use is made of the spores if they are applied directly to seeds, cuttings or roots prior to placement into growing media.
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OrganicOzarks
It is interesting that you say that because my experiences don't line up with what you have said. I have tried them directly on the roots, and it worked well. For some reason I thought that I would give the water soluble a try, so I did. I had roots stacked on top of roots. The difference was amazing. The roots looked "fuzzy", and they were much larger. My experiences have made me switch completely to the water soluble. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't tested it myself. Praise the cannabis gods.
You are going to need a much better description than that for me to understand what you are trying to say.
1/ What were the species of endomycorrhizal fungi you used?
If there were any trichoderma species in the product, this is likely what you observed and not endomycorrhizal.
2/ How did you apply the water soluble product? I did not say that one could not put spores in a liquid. I just said it was more effective applied directly to roots rather than including the spores in a compost tea. I have mixed the spores in water into which I dip roots or cuttings.
3/ How did you determine endomycorrhizal infection? Did you send a sample to a lab or do you have your own microscope? These are the only ways to verify.
4/ What do you mean by roots stacked on top of roots? Is this a visual to describe mycorrhizal infection? How did you observe this? Was it by digging up the roots post harvest?
If I read you correctly, this sounds like Trichoderma encapsulation to me but I can be wrong. Knowing what you used would be one step towards elucidation.
Trichoderma is good to use on its own without endomycorrhizal spores if growing cannabis. It grows rapidly around roots to protect from disease and there is evidence it assists in nutrient uptake. It can be sprouted in aqueous solutions, like compost tea.
Endomycorrhizal > Glomus Mossaea and G. Intraridices, the 2 species mycorrhizae to cannabis are slow to infect roots and your best hope is to apply directly to seeds or cuttings. Unless you vegetate for at least 2 months, there is not much hope of a productive infection. This may be ameliorated by keeping live soil and leaving old roots intact which may have been previously infected. If you have Trichoderma and endomycorrhizal spores together in a product, the Trichoderma usually out competes the mycorrhizal spores for two reasons; 1/ They usually vastly outnumber the endomyc. 2/ They sprout and start growing overnight.
PS. If you think about it, how is it possible for a sprout to be water soluble???
Marketing ploy! All they have done is reduce the size and alter the consistency of the carrier.
It is like saying seeds are water soluble.
Marketing ploy! All they have done is reduce the size and alter the consistency of the carrier.
It is like saying seeds are water soluble.
good point
i do that and apply a few more drenchs mixd with water
imo its more efficient then a simple direct application to rootzone,stuffs dirt cheap & i personally believe the extra drenches some how increase colonization or help speed things up...
powder all the way, unless you enjoy paying to ship water
Similar questions. What is in the product you use?
What have you observed that makes you say there might have been increased colonization/growth?
mycro grow for vegies
Contains concentrated spore mass of the following:Endomycorrhizal fungi Glomus intraradices, Glomus mosseae, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus etunicatum
my simple observations are in overall health not to mention root mass development when Tplanting(3); comparing a number of strains,cuts,soil mixes etc but continuing with the drench as recommended by mentors including the package label and yours (believe it or not)..
im not here to give weight to my practices bud
just my two cents that i really doubt will do any harm and easily tested ones self
simple logic would be biger window(more applications & when they count imo) for specific fungi to colonize but who am i....eh
Cool, I'm glad they did not throw in Trich species. Based on your observations you may have infection. I basically did the same pre-microscope days, using only Intraridices.
oh thers plenty of products that contain a mix of trich,etco along with ther grandmothers
"everything in a bag"
thnx to folks like you im making less & wizer purchasing decisions
trying the bahia grass thing with my infection method & if that works then i should be set....microscope is on my wish list
"everything in a bag"
thnx to folks like you im making less & wizer purchasing decisions
trying the bahia grass thing with my infection method & if that works then i should be set....microscope is on my wish list
