ROOT ROT RECIPE?!?

[avant gardener]

hey all!

in the wake of a nasty root aphid infestation:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....33#post4527833

my rez temp also shot up to the high 70's for a day and a half.
now i've got the rot.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=123374&d=1309428720

https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=123375&d=1309428720


i use gh micro, and i understand that some of the discoloration is from staining, but this is hardly normal.

the aphids have been nuked and the temp is stable at around 70˚.
my best idea now is to cut out the most affected parts of the root mass and to do a h2o2 root dunk (i'm in aero) and then load up on the hygrozyme to eat out what rot remains.

here is my question:
CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE PROPER DILUTION FOR H2O2 TO GET THIS JOB DONE?!?

THANKS!

 

[Core]

i have seen this just acouple of days ago dunno if its legit or not....still here it is...

 

[Scrogerman]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55259&highlight=slime

 

[avant gardener]

did my homework and answered my question.

scrog— thanks for the link to the sticky. i had been reading it already, but i took the 6 hours needed to read through the whole damn thing. good stuff.

anyway i seem to have the situation managed at this point. did a root dip on all the plants with 15 ml/gallon of 29% h2o2. the roots were fizzing enough to frighten me, but after three days, the girls are showing only minor signs of stress. added hygrozyme and roots excel, per label instructions.

prevention/maintenance: i've always kept physan 20 around, but i've always just used it on inanimates. after reading a couple of other forums, i heard that it can actually be added to the rez at 1ml/10 gallons of feed. it seems to be working well so far. new growth. looks like some tasty rice noodles.

THANKS FOR THE POINTERS THOUGH!
(i need all the help i can get.)

 

[Scrogerman]

Hey man,
yeah brown algae/slime & hygro is a mad issue. From what i understand, Hygro has to be used from day one & i think it was IGT that was saying he used bene's with it, which eliminates any issues, they eat that brown shit. We stopped using it alltogether in the end & stayed with the cannazym, no more issues.
iirc anything bad lurking in ya res when ya start using hygro just starts off the slime probelm. I never actually 100% got to the bottom of it all myself, just thought fk it off, problem solved!
if i was gonna use hygrozyme again in hydro id innoculate with bene's first as per IGT's advice, it fkin kicks ass in soil though i must say!

You know when youve got rootrot, ph drops like crazy & your roots smell like rotton smelly feet, a dead give away to ID early rootrot, i always use my nose.

Glad your on the right path, G'Luck with the grow man! keep us updated on progress!

 

[VagPuncher]

Ridomil Gold SL will kill the rot, period.

Fuck all the hippy this that blah blah.

Chemicals are the shit.

 

[Scrogerman]

lol Vag, but it aint rot! hippy blah blah shit lmao!

ridomil gold sl, never heard of that, have to check it out. H2o2 has always served me well(for rot)!
not into systemic treatments myself but ill have a read, cheers!

 

[VagPuncher]

lol Vag, but it aint rot! hippy blah blah shit lmao!

ridomil gold sl, never heard of that, have to check it out. H2o2 has always served me well!
not into systemic treatments myself but ill have a read, cheers!

http://www.syngentacropprotection.com/prodrender/index.aspx?prodid=952

 

[Scrogerman]

looks like good shit, but i doubt it would bother the slime/brown algae poo!

thanks for the link bro! Cheers!

 

[VagPuncher]

Keep it on hand, Scroger.

It's not the easiest thing to get or legal to have, but since when does that stop anybody?

 

[Scrogerman]

True man, not sure on the Rid G SL, but i think, iirc, physan20 is banned in the UK too(correct me if im wrong) you guys are OK with it over the pond, we was looking at that, get most stuff offa the web anyway as ya know.


AvantG, 1 ml per 10gls sounds feasible but im not sure id use it as a preventaive myself, as a cure & rinse definately, although its supposed to be a fker to get all the foam shit out & cleaned up!. Id go the bene route(for hydro with organic addys etc) or run a dead res with H2o2(first choice) without organic addys & bleach second, both seem to be the way to go for me(live or dead res's)! prevention is always better than the cure!

definately let us know how you get on AG.!

G'Luck!

 

[avant gardener]

thanks for all the pointers!

i run a sterile res (or thought so anyhow). all my nutes are synthetics. already had 29% h2o2 running at 1.5 ml/gallon so i'm a little surprised this crept up at all.

new growth is cool. the old brown stuff has an odor, but it's not a foul one. earthy. almost like mature compost. what i'd really like to know is how to burn out the brown. what are the highest concentrations of h2o2 and physan that you know to be viable in hydro?

this aero system was a lot more fun to build than it is to run. i miss my aurora right now. damn!

 

[Scrogerman]

If youve got Physan i believe that will lift it out(never used it myself), but if the brown shit isnt much 0.5ml H2o2 (17.5% strength) per litre in a spray gun & rinse the fk outta the roots till clean. If its gone slimey/mushy you 'might have to' manually remove those paticular roots as they'll 'prolly never comeback, they'll prolly just fall apart in your hands anyway if there mush.

Me, id lose the hygrozyme(listed organic), rinse/spray, clean out/sterilise rootzone, even if you gotta use the physan(check slime thread for doses), then once happy, innoculate with Beneficial bacteria, let colonise, then possibly use/add the hygro. im not sure id run rootsxl with a dead res either. Rhizo i use but never in a dead res with H2o2.

yeah 0.5ml p/l on the 17.5% H2o2. It'll be the hygrozyme thats causing your issue from what i remember.

After youve sterilised, "Nutes & H2o2 only", or if your using any product with anything organic in it(hygro/rootsxl) id use the benes first. have you checked out the 'sipco' website on using hygro? wasnt very helpfull last time i looked.

we sorted our snotty brown slimed roots out with H2o2, rinsing/washing & removing mushed roots, then fked off the hygropoo & run dead res with h2o2, sorted us out. lose the hygro bro, unless your gonna run benes first. Check out IGT's posts in the slime thread, may point in the same direction!iirc.

from the 5min read i just did on hygropoo im glad i fked it right off tbh, better off using drain cleaner, look into using beneficial bacteria in hydro with organic addys. or do what i did n run dead.


G'Luck!

 

[avant gardener]

wish i could hit you with more rep scrog.
hygro is out come next res change.
i was out anyway so i picked up some cannazym.
have never tried id, but hear good things.
one more week of veg, then bennies and enzymes go in the bubblers.
pictures will be posted shortly in my grow journal.

 

[Scrogerman]

G'Luck man, let us know how you get on mate!

 

[cyat]

ur fucked try soil

 

[angel4us]

so whats verdict on hygrozyme ???? scrogerman what u think ?????

Avant gardner did u give scrogerman negative rep for suggesting losing hygrozyme?????like u did me ? peace

 

[avant gardener]

i haven't neg'd anyone at all.
and i didn't leave you any rep fool—
otherwise it wouldn't have let me leave one on that last post^
that one's on the strength since it seems to matter a lot to you.
rep shmep...
c'mon man.

 

[jm420]

Hygrozyme and DWC=Root rot IME
Gh micro will do that to your roots.Ive experianced it a couple time with older bottles.actually just had it happen with this grow the micro was bought in febuary.

 

[F. Dupp]

It aint just DWC.

I got brown algae from using Hygrozyme in my low pressure aero/nft system. I wouldnt suggest using it in any recirculating hydro system. The risk outweighs the benefits. Brown algae is a bitch.

If you get BA use Physan 20, its the only thing that kills it. Throw away your airstones, cause you cant get them clean and they will reinfect your rez.