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zeke99

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hi, zeke! jj is thinking that it is too much nitrogen and he may be right but also it is a symptom of a saturated root zone.

are these in hempy's?

no 5 gallon buckets with a shitload of drainage holes drilled into the bottom, plus side air holes.

In my experience, it's not caused by a saturated root zone.
 

jjfoo

Member
I thought one of the advantages of the jacks is that it doesnt ?? what's the word? Percpitate? <not rain but seperate like oil and water, if it sits.

I don't' think they are just separating out, but rather combining to make new compounds that are not water soluble. The ingredients of jack's can precipitate. I don't think they make this claim. You can read the ingredients list and with some basic chemistry knowledge you could predict what would happen (with regards to precipitation) if the concentration got too high.

I use jacks because it is cheap and works well. I like the fact that I can have it shipped to me as a powder and don't' have to pay the shipping cost on water.
 

jjfoo

Member
no 5 gallon buckets with a shitload of drainage holes drilled into the bottom, plus side air holes.

In my experience, it's not caused by a saturated root zone.

are you willing to measure the EC? If so, please measure a few good pots and the stressed one and post the results.

Sometimes if the EC gets too high to quickly, it can water stress the plant. I'd like to see if there is any evidence for this. We can easily rule this out by sampling taking a few measurements.
 

Stranger

Member
Stranger,
That's 1/4" OD line, 3/16" ID surgical tubing and the tire valve, that's it?

That's it.

I will be drilling a bit inside of the tire stems. There is a rubber lip of sorts that is the smallest point in the array.

I picked up some bobber-floats to create level indicators for the lower buckets. Like a piece of tape wrapped that showed green as long as my air gap is say at least 4". I would know I had an issue (clogged line) at a glance if it was any lower than that.
 

Snook

Still Learning
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That's it.

I will be drilling a bit inside of the tire stems. There is a rubber lip of sorts that is the smallest point in the array.

I picked up some bobber-floats to create level indicators for the lower buckets. Like a piece of tape wrapped that showed green as long as my air gap is say at least 4". I would know I had an issue (clogged line) at a glance if it was any lower than that.

Drill from th big end in two stages. Pics of this bobber idea, please.
 

Snook

Still Learning
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RE 2 tire valves: Or maybe, I don't have the latest tek on the tire valves. My recollection is that you're using 1/4" OD drip line with 1/4" ID surgical tubing and a wrap or two of water proof medical(?) tape to create the seal on the dripper line.

3/8" OD 5/16 ID, black tubeing. It took me a while to find it. dripper?

http://www.thepondoutlet.com/home/tpo/page_4766_117/black_vinyl_tubing.html

No muss no fuyss, fits the valve stem like a golve. Maybe som goop for safety
 

Snook

Still Learning
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hey snook, you need at least a 2" air gap to move the perched water table out of the root zone.

i am running a 4" gap right now pulsing approx 12 oz's every 2 hours in veg and 16 oz's every 2 hours in flower.

I know, but like I said i was plusing too often with too much. My girls are much smaller than yours. The level in the contorol rez is 3/75". The feed line isnt clogged, I blew them out. they look much better now that I started pulsing only 8oz/3hrs and only in the lights on period.. It takes 2-3 days to see reall good resuts but only 1-2 days with too much going in form the top <it seems to me, to overflow.
 

Snook

Still Learning
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D9,
Thanks for splaining me.

Snook, I think you're looking for precipitate.

What the hell is a cipitate anyway? And what has to happen to a precipitate for it to become a cipitate? Sorry, IF hasn't posted in awhile.

Someone has to do it. not cipitate.
 

Snook

Still Learning
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snook, the only reason the reservoir overflows is if the line to the control bucket is clogged.

it 'overflowed' from the rez upward or thru the bottom air pruning holes, it happened lights off and it happend previously when I got too rmbuncious with the plsing too soon with too much.. controll rez at proper height., 3.75". My thought is pulseing every hour at 45 sec/13 OZ is too much from the top with only 1Khps.
 

*mistress*

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pumice....
any garden-type place. small pieces. or,
perlyte... slight more compaction, works well too.... if cant get pumice... maybe

thin type leaves....
maybe cull. too much energy for cultivar to repair, when can go to new growth/bl00m parts.
can be lack of micronutrients, regular micronutrient watering (maybe jax/petrs has that formula as well....) 1x week, will maybe help to stop from doing again... lower ph, maybe to 5.5 input w/ micronutrients, 1x week..... too much water may do, too, but if have V shape to leaves, may be certain micros not reaching leaf from roots... maybe for ph too high?

precipitation.... maybe.... formation of solids (solid compounds) in water... roots prefer soluble elements.... maybe caused by ph too high, changing solubility of certain elements, or... mixing cal, or too much cal w/ other elements.... if mix over 1tsp/gal cal, w/ other elemetns, may be precipitations forms that not see by human (tiny).... if mix cal in other tank, & lower ph to 5.0-5.5, maybe no precipitation, or little.... hope this helps:ying:
 
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delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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it seems i can't grow a small plant anymore. i have reduced veg to 4 weeks. i have begun topping the sweet tooth 4 or 5 nodes down. thinning the interiors. and i just got 19 oz's.

1. this is the swt in the 25% pine bark, 25% rice hulls, and 50% turface mix. working good but i decided i didn't want to hassle with the pine bark processing so the next plant (not shown) was 50% rice hulls and 50% turface. it also looks good but i feel both mixes are just a little too airy. the last 2 photos are a 2 part turface 1 part rice hulls mix that i really like. it tested over 30 % air porosity and just looks and feels good to me.

2. og nukush clone

3. 2 og nukush clones

4. centered is a rene x nuken clone

5. g13 clone

6. g13 clone

7. and 8. same rene x nuken clone transplanted in the "window of opportunity" where no roots have to come off. this one is just under 8".

all of these clones are showing preflowers. the rene x nuken is in the 2 turface 1 rice hulls mix.
 
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dgr

Member
Man Delta, that really sucks for you. Since I'm such a nice guy, I'll take that off your hands.
 

ImaginaryFriend

Fuck Entropy.
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I shouldn't tell you how to live you life;

Or how to grow your weed;

Or how to take compose your photographs.


But,

I do want you to know:

That doll house does something to me (at me?).

Every time I see it.

And I'm not so sure it's a good thing.

I am sure that it is a quivery thing.

Like rendered hoof.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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I shouldn't tell you how to live you life;

Or how to grow your weed;

Or how to take compose your photographs.


But,

I do want you to know:

That doll house does something to me (at me?).

Every time I see it.

And I'm not so sure it's a good thing.

I am sure that it is a quivery thing.

Like rendered hoof.



a vestigial holdover from mrs deltas childhood that i have been trying to sell, giveaway, throw away, set on fire (accidentally of course), let something heavy fall on, and so forth for 13 years now.

i have been advised each attempt that it is a rare, priceless artifact that needs to be refurbished and proudly displayed.

well, if i can't have the moose head and the full size mounted sailfish in the living room she can't have the freaky little house with all the freaky little furnishings that are used to freakishly live a vicarious life through the imagined exploits of the freaky little dolls that live there. so there.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
Mmmm, lime flavored hoof.

they don't use much hoof when they are rendering these days. my vegetarian daughter informed me right in the middle of a big bowl of peach jello that they get most of it from pig skins. boiling pig skins. bacon jello anyone?
 

zeke99

Active member
I think Sterilite has discontinued the container that Delta9 has shown us for his wick cloning system.

I found them on walmart.com but not on the Sterilite website: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite...ntainer-Brite-Green/16351120#Item+Description

This might be the replacement: http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProduct.html?id=493&ProductCategory=212&section=5

Capacity:
12.0 Cup / 2.8 L
Dimensions:
6 5/8" L x 6 5/8" W x 7" H
16.8cm L x 16.8cm W x 17.8cm H

(new)

vs

(old)

Product in Inches (L x W x H): 6.875 x 6.875 x 7.0
12.6 Cup / 3.0 L
 
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