how dry should i let a 3gal coco dry after transplanting 8 cup of soil clone?

[spaceboy]

hey everyone, i have been doing quite a bit of searching and cant find the answer this this, but I have a 3 gal coco hempy bucket and just transplanted a small clone from a cup of soil.

Should i let the coco dry out until the pot is light like soil to let the roots run or does it need to stay moist?

 

[loyalty7]

From my experience coco likes to be wet, e.c skyrockets when its dry, and p.h problems occur, when you water your bringing in the oxygen...

 

[spaceboy]

the plant im using is pretty small, only about 5" and a pretty small root ball so I'm just worried about water log. There is a tiny bit of new growth, but overall so far it seems pretty stalled.

 

[loyalty7]

no water logging coco has great air holding capacity, and when you water you bring in the oxygen, been growing in coco for almost three years

 

[cocohead]

i tend to water small portions about three times in the beginnig to imho let the roots do their thing.
made the experience that when the coco is too wet at the beginning/transplantation phase, it takes a while longer for the plant to start growing in/adapt to its new pot etc.

 

[dansbuds]

Also in a hempy your not gonna see explosive growth till the roots hit the rez in the bottom of your bucket . i'd say water with small amounts twice maybe 3 times a day to keep the coco moist & give the roots a chance to hit the rez . when they do .... you'll see the difference ... believe me LOL .


growem green & stay safe ...Dans

 

[ijim]

You can water around the out half of the pot. And let the the coco wick its way to the center. And the roots will grow to the amount of moisture they need. Keep the coco damp. And adjust frequency as your plants grow. My first coco grow was not good because I watered like it was soil.

 

[spaceboy]

wow, you guys have given me some great info here. One thing that was just brought to my attention in the thread is that they are relatively slow until roots hit the bottom.

I'm worried because the container is a 3 gal round trash can, and its skinny and tall. Also the plant is very small with not a whole lot of roots.

Does anyone think this will be a problem? How long until they reach the bottom? And would it be better to just re-pot into something wider?

Thanks everybody!

 

[John Deere]

I water daily til runoff as soon as I move them out of their beer cup starters. I've never had any problems with overwatering.

Here's a recent discussion. There's several others around here, too, if you search a bit.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=207806

 

[Grass Lands]

When I transplant from a 4" pot to a 3gal I give it a good soaking...around 25% runoff to settle in the coco with a good drink of nutes...once the top of the coco starts to change color I water again, this will allow the coco to stay moist but not waterlogged...also this will allow the roots to reach out and fill the pot...once the roots hit the drain holes I water every day with an occasional flush backed by fresh nutes.

 

[spaceboy]

anyone think that with such a small plant (small for a cup) that i should re-pot?

Thanks!

 

[medical marvel]

Sometimes things can get over complicated.

When transplanting a smaller, just rooted cutting into coco or any other medium, the transplant does not like to be constantly wet. The excess water in the larger container is only lost due to evaporation, since the small root system and the small cutting itself will not be able to use all that water and or nutrient solution.

If your room temps aren't hot and dry..the moisture in the larger container will be cold..and yes..even coco can be a cold low oxygen mess.

Don't jump to a 3 gallon container, if your cuttings are small.
go to a gallon or less etc.

If all of the enviromental temps systems are in order, you
can pretty much dial in your own setup. Sometimes small cuttings take off very well in larger , more moist containers.

I always get faster growth, watering less and going from a cloning cup, to a half gallon or smaller etc.

Rule of thumb : don't saturate your plants until the root system is developed, or spread into the new container.

Larger established plants, depending on the strain, can sit in water for days and love it,.

try not to mess with a cutting that only has a few roots and can't easliy be removed from it's cloning cup with a decent root system.
Less is more

 

[spaceboy]

It is rather cool in my basement. I guess i will try to warm it up a bit down here and get a better fan. I think I will water it lightly maybe once a week see how that goes. Thanks for all the responses.

 

[CoCo_Crazy]

Water coco daily, if the plant is small just water with a lesser amount but still water daily. Think of coco as dwc. You cant have too much water in a dwc right? But you can have too little oxygen. If you water daily thats daily new oxygen, water 3 times a day , new oxygen 3 times a day. So dont be scared of watering coco, what it doesnt want will just be thrown out the bottom.

 

[dansbuds]

this is a coco hempy bucket .... it has a 2" rez at the bottom of the bucket . hempy himself uses this same mix now instead of perilte & vermiculite . 2" of perilte on the bottom ..up to the runoof hole .. them coco or coco & perilte mix filled to the top . yes you can put a freshly rooted clone right into a 5 gallon hempy bucket if you wanted with no ill effects . you just have to feed around the stem very lightly for the first week . it take you that long to fill the rez & for the roots to grow down & finally hit the rez . when this happens you will know cuz the growth will just explode from there . when this happens you feed till you get a small amount of runoff from the hole in the side of the bucket . once the rez is full the coco will wick the nute water from the rez & all you need to do is top off daily to very little runoff . the bigger the girls get the more nute water the plants will drink & the more you'll have to add to get runoff .... dig it ?

i hope this helped you get a better understanding how a hempy works .... one of the better grow methods i've used so far & the coco makes a world of difference in the hempys compared to perilte / vermiculite mix . ahhh you'll see


give this thread a read ... its from the man himseld dailahempy......https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=147954





growem green& stay safe ...Dans

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

Never transplant a small plant into a large container, especially in coco.

 

[dansbuds]

Never transplant a small plant into a large container, especially in coco.

then explain this for me ......

& this is barely rooted seedlings ... not even an established clone which i have done many times succesfully ....the 2 on the left are 2 weeks after transplant from clones & the then turned out like the next pic .

& read posts 1 through 4 & tell the man he's been wrong about his "proven " method . https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=147954

not tryin to be a smart ass here ... but you can transplant into a large bucket of coco right from seed or clone . BTDT




growem green & stay safe ...Dans

 

[John Deere]

I'm with you dansbuds. I don't see the advantage of roots circling around inside a small cup, waiting to be moved to a larger pot. I prefer to give them room to expand.

 

[dansbuds]

I'm with you dansbuds. I don't see the advantage of roots circling around inside a small cup, waiting to be moved to a larger pot. I prefer to give them room to expand.

exactly ..... all you have to do is make sure to NOT over water them & your golden .

 

[ajc0k]

OP- I tend to go from clone to party cups to 2 gallon grow bags to 5 or 10 gallon bags.. I let the coco dry out good to help establish roots.. It's all about the weight of the pots imo, you get a feel for them, if they're heavy leave them be.
If you consistently water your new transplants then the roots won't grow, they will likely end up like my first grow.. They won't grow.