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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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Dr. Purpur

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thanks for the respose dr purpur i read that spinosad will almost all kins of larvae i watered in 1 plant with half strength monterey garden insect spray and have nematodes on order all except a few of the girls are fin but i still want to see if the spinosad helps


I have some Monterey too. I dont think I used it yet though. I cant remember what its for.
As long as these compounds break down in the soil long before harvest is the key.
 

Yes4Prop215

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damn GD those are fuckin huge! damn my plants are only half the size of most of yall lol...i really underestimated the importance of starting a good healthy veg early....hopefully they catch up. this is my first run with 200 gals these pics were taken today june 25th any of you professionals think they have any chance of hitting 4-5 per?? shit id be happy with 3lb per pot to be honest....we didnt have the most room so they are kinda cramped in there worried about the shade possibly reducing yield..
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Ive soaked the plants with it before. I know it went in the soil. I used it for caterpillars, not termites. I thought it was expressly for Cats. THey use some mean shit to kill termites.

For my California Super-Mites, I tried azamax, neem, pyrethrins, brix mix, alcohol, CO2, and I probably left something out. Nothing worked to eradicate them...... Until..... LOL, I actually bought some of the Plant Vitality plus (in the thin aluminum can), and hit the total infestation with that. All plants were in veg, and none were harvested until 13 weeks later. It knocked the fuck outta them. It killed every single mite. I havnt seen one since, and that was probably 17-18 weeks ago. Maybe it will kill termites too. I did spray the soil. I think it has Mectins in it. About 30 bucks makes up maybe 3 gallons strong spray. Allow at least 7 weeks before harvest

have you heard of SNS17? saw guys at the growshop buyin the 300 gal concentrated jugs, and several people claim it works...i hit some indoor GDP with it and they didnt burn and the mites definately dissapeared for now...

i noticed my healthy plants seem to fight the mites off themselves....its only my stressed plants that have mites..been spraying them every night/morning with water and mixing in pesticides every 3 sprays..azamax and sns17...tempted to bring out the floramite but trying to cut back on the chemical shit for now..
 
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Butte_Creek

yes4prop215- looking great man! those plants look happy. it's fun outside under the sun, less stress, huh?

to be completely honest i think it'd be quite a stretch to hope for 4-5# a plant. that's a thick wide plant at that point, and based on those genetics(LVPK and OG i think you were saying), and most importantly how closely spaced those beds are, 3# a plant would be an achievement. those beds are pretty close.

you'll do great though. over the years i've found out it's good just to skip guesstimating the yield, you'll always be off or disappointed.
 

Yes4Prop215

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yea i always underestimate my yeild so that anything extra is a pleasant surprise lol....but yeah you live and learn. next year gotta start vegging real early and get some Blue Dream going...kinda scrambled last second and picked random plants from my indoor grow to throw outside...

also we have been training them down like crazy so thats why they are pretty short...we are looking to get shorter but wider bushy plants...dont want 8 footers here or the neighbors could see too easy..
 

Dr. Purpur

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The SNS17 is Rosemary. I use Rosemary on Chicken and Lamb. I have a nice Rosemary shrub. Ive never tried it on the plants. I no longer have any mites. I might throw some in a blender and try it some time. If I ever see any mites again.


Im thinking about letting one Panama plant go straight up. Its in a spot that has trees behind it. 14' might be ok, maybe 16'. This plant makes nice sweet solid colas in about 11 weeks.
 

Butte

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I spoke with the lead scientist regarding SNS217 since their advertisements state it has persistence. SNS217 is micronized rosemary oil (~7 microns) with oleic acid to provide an immediate knockdown then the rosemary is small enough to stay in the stomata where it is fed upon by emerging mites. Indoors the persistence is 2-4 days (generally higher heat) and 3-6 days outdoors. Once mixed, the shelf life is 12-18 months and the concentrate can be stored for more than 3 years.

Recommended.

Happy gardening - Butte
 
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CascadeFarmer

SNS217 is micronized rosemary oil (~7 microns) with oleic acid
Rosemary oil is a powerful preservative and used as such in things like Vitamin E gelcaps. EOils are some of the most powerful anti bacterial/fungal/viral agents know. Some growers here make an aerated tea using lavender flowers, not essential oil, for mites and they swear by it. If you live near a lavender farm you can buy buckets of the loose flowers cheap.
 

Dr. Purpur

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Rain!

Rain!

Hey! You Guys see that We are looking at rain on Monday or Tuesday in Northern Cali? Actually My plants just might like a day of that. Its hotter than shit out there now.

I re tilled a 180 sq ft vegetable garden, and plowed in a bunch of chickitty doo and blood meal. My damn Sons brought me 3 flats of large peppers, Tomatos, watermelon, crooknecks, Acorn, and some type of poppies, so I had to do this work. Its so damn hot out there. At least 90 in the shade. I have about 1/2 hour more work to do then Im gonna jump in the pool.
 

Dr. Purpur

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Ive soaked the plants with it before. I know it went in the soil. I used it for caterpillars, not termites. I thought it was expressly for Cats. THey use some mean shit to kill termites.

For my California Super-Mites, I tried azamax, neem, pyrethrins, brix mix, alcohol, CO2, and I probably left something out. Nothing worked to eradicate them...... Until..... LOL, I actually bought some of the Plant Vitality plus (in the thin aluminum can), and hit the total infestation with that. All plants were in veg, and none were harvested until 13 weeks later. It knocked the fuck outta them. It killed every single mite. I havnt seen one since, and that was probably 17-18 weeks ago. Maybe it will kill termites too. I did spray the soil. I think it has Mectins in it. About 30 bucks makes up maybe 3 gallons strong spray. Allow at least 7 weeks before harvest


I miss spoke. I did not yet use the Spinosad. I found that the bottle is still taped up from the shipper, and full. It appears that I used another Caterpillar killer last year instead. (Thuricide?) Ill use the Monterey this year.
As for Mites, Id prefer not to use anything at all. Hopefully I wont have to this year, since they are gone.
 

K1ndBudz

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Dr. Purpur, I feel you man. Hit up the nursery yesterday and grabbed a buttload of stuff to finish off my garden, mostly squash/melons to provide a sort of natural mulch shading out the weeds below and keeping the ground between my plants cool. Also a few tomatoes & chiles for eats.

On a side note, the mexicans working the field across the street from me were literally running to get the green beans picked and out of the heat before they got fried.

Yes4prop215, looks rockin to me. Hope you hit your goal man. Were you going to continue to train through the stretch and try to maximize the light each branch gets or just let things go au'natural from here on out since the solstice passed and prune out the shaded undergrowth?
 

mapinguari

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Hey! You Guys see that We are looking at rain on Monday or Tuesday in Northern Cali? Actually My plants just might like a day of that. Its hotter than shit out there now.

I re tilled a 180 sq ft vegetable garden, and plowed in a bunch of chickitty doo and blood meal. My damn Sons brought me 3 flats of large peppers, Tomatos, watermelon, crooknecks, Acorn, and some type of poppies, so I had to do this work. Its so damn hot out there. At least 90 in the shade. I have about 1/2 hour more work to do then Im gonna jump in the pool.

Those damn sons. Hopefully they'll help you eat 'em, at least.

Yes I'm stoked with the rain in the forecast, tho we've only been flirting with 90 while the valley heats up.
 

Yes4Prop215

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Yes4prop215, looks rockin to me. Hope you hit your goal man. Were you going to continue to train through the stretch and try to maximize the light each branch gets or just let things go au'natural from here on out since the solstice passed and prune out the shaded undergrowth?

i think the training is done for now....every branch gets maximum light and now they should start shooting upwards, kind of like theres an invisible trellis on it...as soon as one shoot gets too tall we train her down so her 4-5 nodes all become shoots themselves..
 

mapinguari

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Yeah, NWS now says we're looking at daytime highs around 59 (WTF?!?!?!) tomorrow and Wednesday, and up to 1.5 inches of rain over the northern Sierra / southern Cascades.

Weird.
 
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Trinity Gold

So I got my drippers in and I am starting to tackle the weeds...Here is the same Afwreck x Cherry Thai a week later..This strain is proven down to 25 degrees! I am going to put in a whole bunch of this one next year !! I Just love the structure !

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Madrus Rose

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So I got my drippers in and I am starting to tackle the weeds...Here is the same Afwreck x Cherry Thai a week later..This strain is proven down to 25 degrees! I am going to put in a whole bunch of this one next year !! I Just love the structure !

Yep ...a little more "structure" in your life is what ya
sure need alright TG !! :blowbubbles:

Looks like that's going to go huge , all green all the way down and looks bug free... and you have plenty of spacing too. Like the color, leaf & branch structure on that girl too .
A sound combination of genetics that should hit the g-spot ....who's got the Chems, SD & OG's ?

(see Butte's rockin his BD again ! Maybe he'll hit 16ft this time around , lol)
 
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Madrus Rose

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nice , very nice yeoman ...compact efffecient little "village" u hav nestled in there .

Imagine there can be some very hot days coming up ahead
as you have plenty of sun and surrounding cover .

Hoopin it up ! Nice !:)
 

Yeoman

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Thanks Madrus! All pots are 6' in diameter and 16' on center. Soon I will have irrigation set up and will be mulching with straw.

Regards,
 
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Butte_Creek

So I got my drippers in and I am starting to tackle the weeds...Here is the same Afwreck x Cherry Thai a week later..This strain is proven down to 25 degrees! I am going to put in a whole bunch of this one next year !! I Just love the structure !

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that is awesome structure! very branchy, but when all branches naturally act as tops and stay up, robust branching. i had a platinum og kush that grew very similar, loved the structure. afwreck x cherry thai, so many great varieties in one, blue dream killer? i don't really have much to say anymore, you garden is doing great.
 
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