Seacrop what are your thoughts?

[strain_searcher]

What do you guys think of sea crop? http://www.sea-crop.com/ I posted this in the wrong place before this is more of an organics question.

I have known about this for years but only recently saw it being used in organic hydro forum. Was wondering what suby and the rest of the organic gang thought. Its a little pricey but looks kind of interesting. I wouldnt mind putting that in my tea.

Our field testing has demonstrated that SEA-CROP:

1. Increases cellular respiration
2. Makes plants more phototropic.
3. Increases photosynthesis.
4. Increases carbohydrate content of sap by Brix refractometer testing.
5. Increases soil microflora
1. Nitrogen fixing and other bacteria.
2. Phosphorous leaching and other fungi.
6. Improves soil tilth and aeration.
7. Makes plants healthier, more disease and insect resistant.
8. Has saved diseased orchards.
9. Has lessened the need for insecticide.
10. Makes plants more drought tolerant.
11. Makes plants more transplant tolerant.
12. Fruit become larger and much better tasting.
13. Keeping quality is enhanced.
14. Mineral and vitamin content is increased.
15. The growing cycle is shortened by weeks.
16. Crop yields are increased 15% to 35%
17. Application is easy and inexpensive.
18. Product is organic.
19. Nontoxic.

 

[strain_searcher]

Anyone?

 

[jaykush]

really i think its just mainly chocked full of minerals and trace elements. there are other alternatives to the same effects. azomite for one and very cheap. i bet they dont even know why there product works in all those ways, they were just effects noted and added on i bet. maybe they know to some degree but not fully.

or you can just use healthy seawater diluted a lot.

 

[strain_searcher]

Awesome thanks Jay

 

[prime8]

I thought it was a seaweed product I use called Seacrop16...There liquid kelp is called Seacrop too. Well if anyone wants a great price for very concentrated seaweed...
http://www.noamkelp.com/products.html

 

[strain_searcher]

I am about to grind up 5 different types of seaweed I got for FREE at a local ,very clean beach. It dried up nicely in the sun.

 

[Whatever]

I am about to grind up 5 different types of seaweed I got for FREE at a local ,very clean beach. It dried up nicely in the sun.

Seaweed is GREAT...did you rinse that stuff before drying or rinse just before use? Not a biggie really. Nice to get the salt residue off to know where you're starting from.

I got some Sea-Crop on the shelf but haven't gotten around to experimenting with it yet and probably won't for an extended period cause I've shut down for the near term. I gave the other bottle to a friend in hopes he would do more thorough in-field testing (indoor growing-verifying with a microscope to check fungal health/growth) but hasn't yet and probably won't for awhile.

Manufacturer's claims of effectiveness are always interesting. I'm sure there's something to Sea Crop, and other seawater/salt products, but how crappy is the 'baseline' they are comparing to? There's research out there proving diluted salt water applications for agriculture works.

Someone talked about OceanTrace so I bought some and sent a sample to a lab and can only say it's not what some think it is. I paid $200 to have the lab tear it apart. The label says 'Derived From: Potassium Sulfate, Potassium Chloride, Magnesium Chloride and Sodium Chloride'...what happened to the seawater? The trace mineral concentrations don't add up properly either in the analysis. Then there's traceminerals.com and only thing I can say is LOL. I was involved in that company back in '97. Their product is basically just drawn from an artesian type well near the salt beds/Great Salt Lake...at least that's part of what was going on back...they do no processing...maybe they changed some things but doubt it.

There's definitely something to salt/salt water products for agriculture but gotta sort through the BS...and it's out there but I'm talking strictly about what some manufacturers claim their products to be and how they're supposedly manufactured.

 

[strain_searcher]

Whatever, thats some nice info right there. I ground up the seaweed I just have to figure out weather to us it in a tea or just sprinkle on the dirt. Im fighting off gnats at the moment organically what a pain n the butt

 

[Whatever]

Whatever, thats some nice info right there. I ground up the seaweed I just have to figure out weather to us it in a tea or just sprinkle on the dirt. Im fighting off gnats at the moment organically what a pain n the butt

I've dealt with salt and salt products directly for over 10 years...as for the gnats...you're keeping your medium too wet most likely to start and can try things like mosquito dunks, predator nematodes, yellow sticky traps, etc. Gnats are really no big deal. Kelp meal in a veg or flower mix rocks if everything else is in balance. Personally I was using kelp meal in my mix and also something like a seaweed extract diluted in waterings if I felt I was behind the curve a bit.

 

[Whatever]

Just saw this today...

Businesses make millions of dollars selling tiny brine shrimp, salt and other minerals from the lake

The entire story...

GREAT SALT LAKE, Utah - The Great Salt Lake is so briny that swimmers bob in the water like corks. It is teeming with tiny shrimp that were sold for years in the back of comic books as magical "sea monkeys." And, for reasons scientists cannot explain, it is heavily laden with toxic mercury.

Exactly where the poison is coming from — and how much danger it poses to the millions of migratory birds that feed on the Great Salt Lake — are now under investigation.

"We've got a problem, but we don't know how big it is," said Chris Cline, a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist who has been collecting the eggs of cinnamon teal ducks from nests along the rim of the lake so that they can be cracked open and analyzed in the lab.

Three years ago, in an alarming finding, U.S. Geological Survey tests showed the lake had some of the highest mercury readings ever recorded in a body of water in the United States. The state warned people not to eat certain kinds of ducks because of the mercury.

This summer, scientists are fanning out across the lake and its marshy shoreline for the start of what is expected to be a multiyear study. The Environmental Protection Agency and the state are footing most of the $280,000 bill for the initial phase.

One major question is whether the mercury is accumulating naturally, from some as-yet-unknown source in the ground, or is the result of industrial pollution. Researchers say mercury released into the atmosphere from coal-fired power plants in the West, gold mines in Nevada, volcanoes in Indonesia or industries in rapidly developing countries such as China or India may be settling in the lake.

Mercury can cause neurological damage in birds and affect their ability to fight off diseases. High mercury levels have been detected in some of the Great Salt Lake's birds. But so far there is no evidence that it is sickening them.

"The jury's kind of still out on the impact, but it can't be a good impact," said Tom Aldrich, migratory gamebird coordinator for the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources.

For all of its international recognition, the Great Salt Lake is still a deep source of mystery. The lake is the remnant of a sprawling prehistoric inland sea that covered 20,000 square miles during the last ice age and was 1,000 feet deep in places.

Today's Great Salt Lake is much smaller at 1,700 square miles, much shallower and significantly saltier — brinier even than the ocean — because of salts dumped by tributaries and left behind as the water evaporates.

Businesses make millions of dollars selling tiny brine shrimp, salt and other minerals from the lake, and it is a popular spot for boaters and other tourists, despite the often strong rotten-egg smell from decaying algae and other organisms, and despite the fact that practically the only creatures that can survive the salty water are bacteria, bugs and the shrimp. (Scientists say the mercury poses no danger to swimmers.)

But the wetlands and wide expanses of calm water are a powerful draw for birds, including the world's largest concentration of Wilson's pharalope, which uses its needle-like bill to gobble shrimp and bugs; the eared grebe; the white-faced ibis; the California gull; and the snowy plover.

Each year, more than 9 million birds stop by, many on their annual treks between Canada or South America and parts between, making the Great Salt Lake "sort of the Delta airplane hub of the West in terms of migration," Aldrich said.

The problem is that the lake has a peculiar combination of bacteria and chemicals that helps convert inorganic mercury to its more harmful form, methylmercury, scientists say. In some cases, the mercury gets into the brine layer on the lake bottom and makes its way up the food chain to the shrimp and then to the birds that eat them.

Once they have identified the source of the contamination and what sort of threat it poses, scientists hope to somehow reduce the amount of mercury getting into the lake, or perhaps control the bacteria that lead to the more harmful form.

"Hopefully something can be done," said Jodi Gardberg, the state's Great Salt Lake watershed coordinator.

Anything for a buck sometimes...caveat emptor regarding Trace Minerals products. Main point here is just don't buy hook, line and sinker what some manufacturer tells you...do your own research.

 

[vorzh]

SeaCrop?

SeaCrop?

Anyone ever used this stuff? I'm hella intrigued by the salt feeding schedules (Foliar and regular) and am going to try it on a waterfarm dwc/nft system. Anyone have any experience with it already?

 

[IwannatokeNbone]

i dont have info but feeding plants salt n ocean water is interesting, ive heard of people pouring straight ocean water on trees and they luv it.


by trees i mean real fruit trees.

 

[CascadeFarmer]

i dont have info but feeding plants salt n ocean water is interesting, ive heard of people pouring straight ocean water on trees and they luv it.

Sea Crop is a 35:1 extract/concentrate of seawater. The sodium chloride content of seawater is about 3.5% but in Sea Crop it's about 2% yet all the ocean organics, marine bacteria and trace minerals are concentrated about 35 times.

In hydro you'd probably need no more than 1 tsp per gallon of solution. Safe way also for application is no more than a 1% dilution 1 time per week up until late flower as a foliar. I have seen growers using up to a tablespoon per gallon of res solution but that seems pretty high.

 

[vorzh]

Thanks, i'll make a journal once the kids get plugged. They're all different types of OG

 

[mg75]

read this...

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=81260

 

[CascadeFarmer]

Wanted to clarify my information a bit. You should do no more than a 1% dilution as a foliar once per week and can probably do well with a .5% dilution. As for as a foliar in flower you'd probably not want to spray after flower formation due to residues on the bud probably would negatively affect flavor. In the res I'd still stop using later in flower due to the high Mg content.

 

[vorzh]

Thanks Cascade. When they arrive i'll journal up and show results.

 

[vorzh]

Should the foliar be appried in high or low temps? That is mid day or evening?

 

[CascadeFarmer]

I never recommend foliar applications mid day. My preference is early morning outdoors or lights on indoors for nutritive type applications. I use 1 tbs per gallon molasses and a spritz of natural liquid detergent in my foliar solutions.

 

[vorzh]

I never recommend foliar applications mid day. My preference is early morning outdoors or lights on indoors for nutritive type applications. I use 1 tbs per gallon molasses and a spritz of natural liquid detergent in my foliar solutions.

Absolutely. I know some foliars are meant to be applied in temps over 85 for exmaple so was just wondering.

Also, i want to do a brix mix of sorts, should i alternate sea crop and brix foliars? or kind of combine the 2 in one application?

Thanks again for your help