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Republicans HELP support Marijuana legistlation - Yes you read that right!

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megayields

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Ammiano pot bill gets support from GOP colleague


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/03/BAUC1JPBG0.DTL#ixzz1OKExWyHo

Saturday, June 4, 2011


They say politics makes strange bedfellows, and that idiom was in full effect on the Assembly floor this week when a bill by über-liberal Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, got a little legislative love from his Libertarian-leaning but technically Republican colleague from Fullerton (Orange County), Chris Norby.


Norby made an impassioned plea for AB1017, which would have allowed California prosecutors to decide whether folks caught cultivating marijuana should be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony. The bill failed - and won't be reconsidered again until next year - but not before Norby ripped his fellow Republicans for their opposition.


Norby noted that the bill could save up to $3.5 million a year by allowing small growers to avoid state prison, while maintaining prosecutors' discretion to charge those involved large-scale operations with felonies.


"A lot of people in my party have said to me that they agree with making laws more rational but don't want to take the political heat," he said before listing a long line of pro-pot measures he supported as an elected official in conservative Orange County - and never was punished for politically.


"If you really believe that someone growing a pot plant deserves three years in state prison, and that is adequate punishment, and that taxpayers should be paying $150,000 (in prison costs) for growing a plant, then oppose this. But if you are just thinking about the political aspect - it should be our issue if we are freedom-loving conservatives," Norby said. "What bigger nanny-state can there be? ... Sending somebody away for growing a plant? That's a nanny-state on steroids."


Of course, Ammiano couldn't let Norby have the only quips. He followed up with this note about last year's election, in which voters rejected a ballot measure to legalize marijuana, and also defeated GOP gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman.


"This is not about marijuana, this is about marijuana policy," Ammiano said. "It might make some people uncomfortable, but Mr. Norby is right. Prop. 19 got more votes than Meg Whitman last year."

 

budlover123

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Republicans are hurting, especially after all this Paul Ryan, cut medicare crap (that Paul Ryan is one sad political guinea pig we won't see for long) Marijuana and Republicans might just be able to scratch each others back, lets just hope the Republicans and Democrats don't stick a knife in it when marijuana's back is turned.
 

paladin420

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If either party would live up to the 'values' they claim to stand for we would not be here,havin this discusion.
 

pearlemae

May your race always be in your favor
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Republican motto" Do or say what ever it takes to get elected, then do what your corporate masters want"
 

superbolan

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Republican motto" Do or say what ever it takes to get elected, then do what your corporate masters want"

I think that can be said about both parties sadly enough, remember Obamas pre-election stances on legalization and the patriot act.... It always turns into electing who will do the least harm , not the most good
 
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I think that can be said about both parties sadly enough, remember Obamas pre-election stances on legalization and the patriot act.... It always turns into electing who will do the least harm , not the most good


They only take issue with it when it's a 'Republican' who doesn't keep his 'promises'...some of the idiots around here are lemmings of the highest order.

No democrat,past or present, has ever done that. :laughing:

<take head out of ass>

Economy is in the shitter, Gitmo is still open, and token troop withdrawals...did I mention attack mode by Holder?

Sounds like kept promises to me :yes:

Forecasts look even gloomier...not sure how much more hope for change I can stand :moon:



We'll wait for the smoke report from your auto-rimjob :wave:
 
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stickey fingers

FUCK obamma and all his supportors !!!

FUCK obamma and all his supportors !!!

Republican motto" Do or say what ever it takes to get elected, then do what your corporate masters want"
no no that is FUCK HEAD obamas motto, lets get that straight !!!
only hope his ass gets the KARAMA he deserves, the nooise
STUPID FUCK should have kept his mouth shut instead
of dribbleing his shity mouth in CA and i hope the basterded
rots in hell for it !!!!!! i wish i could say how i really fell about
obamma the the FUCK NUT !!!!
obama = Lybia, more blood all over amaericas hands
FUCK obamma
RIP DR JAY
 
Dont fool yourselves
you could say "uber liberals" help support legalization too. Don't give the Repub's too much credit, they are overwhelmingly the enemy not your friends, liberals are much more open-minded overall and pot legalization is no exception.
 
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In~Plain~Site

Dont fool yourselves
you could say "uber liberals" help support legalization too. Don't give the Repub's too much credit, they are overwhelmingly the enemy not your friends, liberals are much more open-minded overall and pot legalization is no exception.



I hope you and pearl keep your assholes clean :moon:

head-up-your-ass.jpg
 
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stickey fingers

FUCK obama

FUCK obama

i am just really bitter and red in the face mad !!! i voted for obama, i was supurised
to see him go public over prop 19, worst of all i am SHOCKED to see a lot of my brothers and sisters getting locked up in JAIL or PRISON over a PLANT !!! and most of these
people are sick and dieing MED PATIENTS, or care givers! who in the fuck thinks they can play DR and judge others for there med condition can FUCK OFF !!! especically obama

I HOPE ANYONE SUPPORTING obama WHILE USEING CANNABIS, SPENDS THE
REST OF THE TIME OBAMA IS IN OFFICE IN PRISON !!!
RIP DR JAY
 

PoopyTeaBags

State Liscensed Care Giver/Patient, Assistant Trai
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actually voting to legalize MJ would be the only thing that could get repubs back in power.....
 

PoopyTeaBags

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Veteran
i am just really bitter and red in the face mad !!! i voted for obama, i was supurised
to see him go public over prop 19, worst of all i am SHOCKED to see a lot of my brothers and sisters getting locked up in JAIL or PRISON over a PLANT !!! and most of these
people are sick and dieing MED PATIENTS, or care givers! who in the fuck thinks they can play DR and judge others for there med condition can FUCK OFF !!! especically obama

I HOPE ANYONE SUPPORTING obama WHILE USEING CANNABIS, SPENDS THE
REST OF THE TIME OBAMA IS IN OFFICE IN PRISON !!!
RIP DR JAY


im not really all for obama i voted for him hes better then bush... i think all these obamas the devil shit is really people pissed off that thought the black guy would legalize MJ.... First off NO pres EVER would do that in there first term... maybe a chance in second term but highly doubtful.

second id have to say that your karma is gonna turn on yourself being so hateful... you wish growers prison cause they think differently then you??? for real?? you have to be a conservative. thats just foolish at best.
 
im not really all for obama i voted for him hes better then bush... i think all these obamas the devil shit is really people pissed off that thought the black guy would legalize MJ.... First off NO pres EVER would do that in there first term... maybe a chance in second term but highly doubtful.

second id have to say that your karma is gonna turn on yourself being so hateful... you wish growers prison cause they think differently then you??? for real?? you have to be a conservative. thats just foolish at best.

How is he better then bush? What changed? Seriously what changed..... Unconstitutional wars check...insane spending (borrowing) and government expansion....check....Patriot act and suspension of habious corpus while forcing false confessions via torture....check.... ridiculous signing statements....check...filling your cabinet with wall street and fortune 100 insiders...check....capitol hill a cesspool of soulless lobbiests...check...sacrificing a 14 trillion dollar economy for wall street bonuses...check....America headed for complete totalitarian fascism...check. Obama is just a better liar is all. Hell remember what Bush campaigned on? Cutting size of govt!! LOL

PUPPETS...they are all PUPPETS! When will the sheeple realize. We're doomed.

(i voted for him too, cause i liked what he was saying, too bad he didn't do any of it)

now i know better...Ron Paul 2012.
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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I think that can be said about both parties sadly enough, remember Obamas pre-election stances on legalization and the patriot act.... It always turns into electing who will do the least harm , not the most good

Myth or urban legend?

from 2007

When a voter asked Obama if he was for the legalization of medical marijuana, Obama said that he wasn't in favor of legalization without scientific evidence and tight controls. Citing his mother who died from cancer young, Obama compared marijuana to morphine saying there was little difference between the two.

"My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana then that's something I'm open to because there's no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain," Obama said. "But I want to do it under strict guidelines. I want it prescribed in the same way that other painkillers or palliative drugs are prescribed."

But he added that he was concerned that the reasons for the use of marijuana would grow and create a "slippery slope."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2007/11/25/4423993-obama-open-to-limited-legalization


video from 2008

Barack Obama Doesn't Support Marijuana ( Cannabis ) Decrim / Legalization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Znv41SIJU


If you reference direct quotes, you'll get a different perspective than the misinterpretations that permeate web-sites like ICMag. Even the video doesn't cite his so-called pro-reform leanings, much less legalization.
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
They only take issue with it when it's a 'Republican' who doesn't keep his 'promises'...some of the idiots around here are lemmings of the highest order.

How much disparity do you have to see before you'd recognize it? Closer to the point, acknowledge it?

No democrat,past or present, has ever done that. :laughing:

<take head out of ass>

No, we have two democratic governors (mine included, one in New England) opposed to mj reform. IMO, you've got that ideology + no-application = reasoning, turned on. In other words, your head might as well be you-know-where.

Economy is in the shitter,

As it was on election day, 2008. Eight years of monumental shitter can't be reversed in 2-1/2 years with a filibustering senate and a new house majority in opposition. In other words, we still have depleted revenues (W's tax cuts) and unregulated, systemic-risk on Wall Street.

Gitmo is still open,

The opposition refused to allow criminal prosecutions so it's let-em-go or Gitmo. Wanna let em all go?

I gots the feeling you'd prefer military commissions as opposed to treating terrorists like criminals.

and token troop withdrawals...

Wow, CBO just estimated 1.7 trillion in savings from 10,000 + ~35,000 troop withdrawals (next year) compared to current troop numbers for 10 years. Some token, 170 billion every year.

did I mention attack mode by Holder?

Sounds like kept promises to me :yes:

Based on your sound bites, I get the impression you have very little to back "attack mode". No comparisons, no statistics, no details. Just one comment that represents your dissatisfaction and little else.

Forecasts look even gloomier...not sure how much more hope for change I can stand :moon:

Presidential decree? Non-compromised opposition makes for big difference. Did you hear Boehner yesterday? Something about no compromise on revenue increases for the top? You know, the folks that tell us to keep padding their ass and they'll start hiring? Maybe... in Cambodia.

We'll wait for the smoke report from your auto-rimjob :wave:

I'd say you're well positioned for one of those.:D
 

PoopyTeaBags

State Liscensed Care Giver/Patient, Assistant Trai
Veteran
How is he better then bush? What changed? Seriously what changed..... Unconstitutional wars check...insane spending (borrowing) and government expansion....check....Patriot act and suspension of habious corpus while forcing false confessions via torture....check.... ridiculous signing statements....check...filling your cabinet with wall street and fortune 100 insiders...check....capitol hill a cesspool of soulless lobbiests...check...sacrificing a 14 trillion dollar economy for wall street bonuses...check....America headed for complete totalitarian fascism...check. Obama is just a better liar is all. Hell remember what Bush campaigned on? Cutting size of govt!! LOL

PUPPETS...they are all PUPPETS! When will the sheeple realize. We're doomed.

(i voted for him too, cause i liked what he was saying, too bad he didn't do any of it)

now i know better...Ron Paul 2012.

listen i here ya .... what has obama done...? well hes TRIED to do alot.... couple things come to mind is school loans and credit cards...

do i believe in bigger government?? no but i think that the least we could do is provide free health care being the 2nd richest government in the world... fucking CUBA has socialized health care...

Under Bush i think there was like 23 agencies that were created like homeland security that could totally be abolished... do i think obama is great? no do i think he tried? yea

I think people are sheeple if they dont believe that the government is bought and paid for... once the cronnies get in they set laws and rules to keep them in and others out. its disgusting game u have to sell your soul for. Its not geared to help the people in fact its geared to fuck them.... the people are the last will that is not TOTALLY controlled. ( i say totally becuase the news and media brainwashes the weak everyday... if you dont think for yourself your part of the problem). Its the last power we have and even thats rigged to shit.

so why is he better then bush... only 1 new war with 1/8 the spending and he has done at least a couple thigns to help the commoner... bush... never did shit.


On a side note i think its funny how people forget there history... remember the clinton years....? then remember the bush years..... now its all blamed on obama no matter whos fault it was... We were in one of the best economical positions if not thee best we have ever been under clinton... He payed off all our old debt and he had over a trillion dollar surplus.....Then comes bush... leaves us with like 3 trillion in debt 2 wars and a economy in the shitter... the rich got rich as fuck the middle class dissappeared and all was left was poor and rich...

But fuck it blame it on obama......
 
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In~Plain~Site

My allegiance to conservatism begins and ends with fiscal responsibility and the protection of the free market.

I don't mind paying my fair share, I just still want to be able to set my own pay scale, without interference.

Everyone one of us knows where the bloat is, and our money is never spent effectively, or at least extremely rarely.

'Free lunch'(no offense) programs within reason
Basic healthcare should be afforded to all
Education
Infrastructure
Being more responsible with the environment and all that entails, within reason.

Obviously open for debate, but not that diametrically opposed...and we'll just have to disagree on some points...no problem.

Normally I would 'drop' some witty pic on you and smile, but I do appreciate that you at least seem willing to look at the other side...I mean, why is it only a bad thing when extreme left views get called out?

I'm not advocating any position, it's just a repeated observation.
 
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stickey fingers

EXAMPLE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND IN MONTANA

EXAMPLE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND IN MONTANA

im not really all for obama i voted for him hes better then bush... i think all these obamas the devil shit is really people pissed off that thought the black guy would legalize MJ.... First off NO pres EVER would do that in there first term... maybe a chance in second term but highly doubtful.

second id have to say that your karma is gonna turn on yourself being so hateful... you wish growers prison cause they think differently then you??? for real?? you have to be a conservative. thats just foolish at best.
i wish no one imprisonment for anybody growing a plant .....
i just meant supporting obama, while to this day uses
his goverment mafia to imprison and destroy lives and kill plants!!! on my hard working tax dollars FUCKED UP SHIT......
KARAMA IN CHECK
RIP DR JAY
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
How is he better then bush? What changed? Seriously what changed.....

Well, let's see. Bush had 8 years and O has less than 2.5. Try that observation in another another five and a half.

Unconstitutional wars check

Unconstitutional war(s)? I believe Congress declared war on the Taliban. Iraq was another president. Pakistan, Yemen (and potential unknowns) are counter insurgencies.

Ellsberg offers Libya as a potential war crime while Sarkozy says European Nato is doing all the work. One suggests apples and the other oranges. What's your insight?

...insane spending (borrowing) and government expansion....check....

Little business hiring, little business infrastructure investment, more corporate liquidity than the history of humanity, anemic domestic manufacturing base, 400:1 income disparity, systemic risk, lowest revenues since 1952, uncompromising opposition etc etc etc.

Patriot act and suspension of habious corpus while forcing false confessions via torture....check.... ridiculous signing statements....check...

No mention of the guy that introduced all that. PA is an act of Congress. No decree options here. Funny how water boarding wasn't torture with W and the word "torture" goes 'round Obama with little to no context. Our wiki leaker gets solitary confinement. Human rights groups say that's torture. What constitutes torture in your opinion?

filling your cabinet with wall street and fortune 100 insiders...check....

Yep, strong manufacturing and the unions that built the middle-class are virtually non-existent compared to three decades ago. Citizens United, conservative SCOTUS, opposition 527s, opposition super-pacs, and oppositional support from the same fortune 100 insiders leaves little left to turn for necessary campaign cash. Little options left unless you suggest Obama wave the white flag and quit.

capitol hill a cesspool of soulless lobbiests...check...

Throughout history and as long as the sun rises. How much power do you imagine decree consists of?

sacrificing a 14 trillion dollar economy for wall street bonuses...check

Yee hah! Your free market at work and 'sacrifice' is just some letters strung together w/o context.

....America headed for complete totalitarian fascism... check.

ROFL. If I read fascism a thousand times, I'm lucky if one attempts to communicate what fascism actually is.

Obama is just a better liar is all. Hell remember what Bush campaigned on? Cutting size of govt!! LOL

Based on your uh, comment, Bush's lies = subsequent liar is better. :chin:

PUPPETS...they are all PUPPETS! When will the sheeple realize. We're doomed.

Not sure how many sheeple you'll influence with sound bites.

(i voted for him too, cause i liked what he was saying, too bad he didn't do any of it)

As long as you don't pay attention to the opposing "no", you can pretend that Obama is an ineffective dictator.

now i know better...Ron Paul 2012.

Decree won't grow with the next president. Hard to imagine Paul being a better leader when his own party won't play his kind of ball. Not to mention an immeasurable amount of the electorate. Libertarian (total) free-market principles constitutes about 1% of the electorate.

Check-point checkie checking out.
 
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