EXPERT advice needed

[ellio187]

So guys quick question to all you experianced growers out there. I am currently day 48 of flower and am about 100% cloudy to 90% cloudy n 10% amber percent crystal color. If I start flushing in 3 days is that perfect?

REALLY THE MAIN QUESTION is how much color change will the crystal undergo in flush. I am using a flush product and am planning on 5-6 day of flushing. Should I start soon or will the crystal not change at all during flush? Its my first grow help me out!!!!!



These are my four plants at like 98% cloudy and 2% amber at absolute average (some are closer and some are farther)

THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!!!!!!!!

 

[FirstTracks]

If it was me, I'd start flushing yesterday...or just right now.

 

[ellio187]

Can I ask why? No offense just for learning purposes

BTW nice grow!

 

[paladin420]

Can I ask why? No offense just for learning purposes

Not to put words In a Brudda's mouth,but I think he is sayin your first grow looks good enough to smoke. Now.
I gro hydro mostly. Drip Clean from H&G is my flush product. followed by PHed water. Looks good..stay frosty

 

[ellio187]

Well in that case flush starts tomorrow and ill do a heavy feeding so it happens in 4-5 days tops, Think by then the crystals will be 40-50% amber? That was my original plan.

 

[Phillthy]

if you are growing in amended soil but not using liquid ferts you dont have to flush. just harvest.

 

[paladin420]

The way they seem to be progressin it should be close. Continued flushin does not hurt for U dirt boys IMHO - Whats the strain if I may?

 

[ellio187]

I have fraggle rock, ak x hawaiian skunk, purps #1 and Grand Daddy purps.

Also I am using liquid ferts and Just X Right soil.

 

[ellio187]

Also I have been doing defoliation technique. Started under 400 until day 38 flower then switched to 1000W because one came to be available.

 

[FirstTracks]

I was saying to flush starting now just because, if you have 5-10%amber, you're almost definitely within 1 or 2 weeks of harvest. Of course it depends on how you like your trichs, but most of my stuff gets chopped at 50% amber or less.

While everyone's preferred time for flushing varies, IMHO, 1 week is minimum and 2 weeks makes for some nice smooth herb.

 

[ellio187]

What if im using a flush produst? Flora Klean

 

[ellio187]

I was told 6-8 days with a cleaner and 7-14 with just water (what u recommend also)

 

[FirstTracks]

It's all preference there. Hopefully some other members chime in with their opinions and experience.

IME, a flush product like Flora Klean will act similarly to putting a small amount of nutes in your solution (maybe 1/10 strength), in that it will pull the excess nutes out faster than plain water would

 

[Brother Bear]

At 48 days, flush in three days, for about 6 days. Brings us to 57 days. If those plants were in my room i would leave them in for at least 2 more weeks minimum. Then flush. Don't look even close to done to me regardless of "100% cloudy to 90% cloudy n 10% amber percent crystal color" My two pennies anyhow. They DO look very sexy though Let them swell some more though

 

[Agent 47]

Also I have been doing defoliation technique. Started under 400 until day 38 flower then switched to 1000W because one came to be available.

I like how you asked why to do something rather than just doing it. With that being said, can you give me a reason why defoliation, or letting your leaves die during flowering is a good idea?

Basic plant physiology contradicts this continually perpetuated forum myth. You want as many healthy leaves as you can up until you pick your plant. If photosynthesis drives all production of the plant, how can removing it's key components of energy be more productive. It's not your fertilizer that's growing buds, it's the leaves.

http://www.progressivegardens.com/knowledge_tree/plantphys.html
http://www.progressivegardens.com/knowledge_tree/bio101.html

Focus on maintaining healthy leaves and a robust root system and the buds will produce themselves.


Good luck bro


Also, I know this goes against the "herd" but IMO removing elements (nutrients) from you medium during a crucial time for bud ripening is counterproductive.

 

[ellio187]

As a plant biologist (Bachelors) I would definitely agree that it is counter productive to remove leaves in a biology sense.
As for this grow, It was definitely the right play.
My reasoning is that I was in a 30x20 space and had 4 plants that are quite large. Removing the leaves created extra nodes, new growth, and more growth just smaller scaled leaves.
In turn it opened the canopy up and allows light penetration to lower bud levels. Overall the plants reaction to it varied but the fraggle took defoliation as if it were steroids........Honestly the plants production of sugars still occurs (it has been shown that bud sacs do produce sugars also, at least with other hemp family members from my studies). Their productivity levels instead shift focus to creating large flowers instead of vegetative leaves. Female plants are already pissed off looking for pollen thats how we get big buds but im just eggin them on to produce larger flowers within the small space.
***Efficiency being the main goal of the system I defoliated to a point where the number of leaves per square ft was increased because light was able to penetrate the lower portions instead of just the large fan leaves on top. I did this calculation by using google sketch (a free cad program) to calculate the average light penetration and degradation over distance with the fan leaf coverage if left and if removed. If removed and new growth occurs there is a 20-25% increase in S.A for light penetration within the 18-20 inches of effective light coverage.

Thats my knowledge base on the subject.

BROTHERBEAR, A, SICK GROW

B. So you think I should give me a little longer then? Ive always been told to go by crystal content but your opinion is not taken lightly as you obviously know your shit....

I think that being said Ill let then go until next wens with nutrients and then consider flushing again. I really do not want to miss my point where they are loosing more crystal then they are producing or maturing.

 

[KRD]

Go with brotherbears advice you wont be sorry. good job on your grow the extra week will make them swell even with plain water.

 

[Brother Bear]

BROTHERBEAR, A, SICK GROW

B. So you think I should give me a little longer then? Ive always been told to go by crystal content but your opinion is not taken lightly as you obviously know your shit....

I think that being said Ill let then go until next wens with nutrients and then consider flushing again. I really do not want to miss my point where they are loosing more crystal then they are producing or maturing.

I do agree with going by the crystal content. Very much so. But i cannot see them with my own eyes on the internet. I would have to be there looking at them myself. All i have to go on is the pictures you posted, and they look weak only as far as the swelling of the buds.

Let them go, let them swell. I think you will be happy that you did my friend. What's that saying ? "Once your sure they are done give them another week" Give it two weeks minimum is my advise. Don't think you will be disappointed

 

[ellio187]

SOOOO this morning I found a few spider mites in my veg room.....Sucks.......but im treating them as needed but for purposes of contamination I think harvest will be end of next week either way. I know there are not mites in the flower room but just because there is the chance of spread im flushing starting Saturday