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How to flush early varieties grown together with late varieties?

I have 5 plants on a 2x2 flood table, one of the plants is going to finish noticeably quicker than the rest ( Island Sweet Skunk ) What do you think will be the easiest way to flush this plant without moving it from the tray? Thanks for any and all help....BD
 

CannaBunkerMan

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Since you're in hydro, I would skip the flush for the early finisher, and only flush the slow-poke.

I don't believe in the flush at all, so personally I wouldn't flush either.
 

krunchbubble

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:laughing: who ever says don't flush in hydro, hasn't a clue....

im in the same situation as you op. your going to need two res's...

i water whatever plants that are not being flushed first with regular nutrient....

then i pull the hose that goes from the tray to the res with the nutrient, to a dump res....

flush like normal and dump the nutrient from the dump res....

make sense?
 

CannaBunkerMan

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:laughing: who ever says don't flush in hydro, hasn't a clue....

My clue comes from several side by side experiments, tested by self-proclaimed pot-snobs. No one was able to identify which was which, at any point. Personally, I couldn't tell the difference either, which is why I asked many others.

Where does your clue come from?
 

krunchbubble

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Where does your clue come from?


18 years and 10's of thousands of plants grown..... :tiphat:

i can take one hit of just about anything and tell you exactly how it was grown....

i don't let my lungs experience unflushed weed anymore, you only have one pair, and they don't like inhaling combusted chemicals.......
 

smoke1sun

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I have 5 plants on a 2x2 flood table, one of the plants is going to finish noticeably quicker than the rest ( Island Sweet Skunk ) What do you think will be the easiest way to flush this plant without moving it from the tray? Thanks for any and all help....BD

There was an old thread on here, I cant find it now. But the person grew in square pots filled with hydrotron. He took them out his flower room put them in a SWC of plain water. Pretty simple.

If you have room leave the SWC in there, or flush in complete darkness. (When i first started coming to this site some folks swore buy the so many days of complete darkness. I tried it, seen no difference so didnt use the dark period at the end anymore. Also didnt see any negative effects from it either.

Wish I could remember who it was, but good luck.
 

highonmt

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18 years and 10's of thousands of plants grown..... :tiphat:

i can take one hit of just about anything and tell you exactly how it was grown....

i don't let my lungs experience unflushed weed anymore, you only have one pair, and they don't like inhaling combusted chemicals.......

i agree man no more unflushed herb for me either. If you can't tell your flushed herb from your unflushed herb you ain't flushing your herb right.

That 2x2 table makes it tough. the roots are all tangled you might be able to sort of tease out the roots and transfer to another table but it would probably do more harm than just letting the others finish. if they are within 2 weeks just flush them together.
 

CannaBunkerMan

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i agree man no more unflushed herb for me either. If you can't tell your flushed herb from your unflushed herb you ain't flushing your herb right.

That 2x2 table makes it tough. the roots are all tangled you might be able to sort of tease out the roots and transfer to another table but it would probably do more harm than just letting the others finish. if they are within 2 weeks just flush them together.

How do you flush incorrectly? I've varied the length of the flush, from 3 days to 2 weeks. I start by opening the bottom of my res. Then I let all of the water "flush" out. Once complete, I fill the res with pH adjusted water. If the nute concentration goes above 300ppm, I'll replace the water again.

I'll repeat, no one was able to consistently tell the flushed weed over the non-flushed. Maybe you have a more discerning palette than most.

I think the problem is that most people waaaay over-feed their plants. Feed the plants only what they need, and a flush should be overkill.
 

highonmt

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How do you flush incorrectly? I've varied the length of the flush, from 3 days to 2 weeks. I start by opening the bottom of my res. Then I let all of the water "flush" out. Once complete, I fill the res with pH adjusted water. If the nute concentration goes above 300ppm, I'll replace the water again.

I'll repeat, no one was able to consistently tell the flushed weed over the non-flushed. Maybe you have a more discerning palette than most.

I think the problem is that most people waaaay over-feed their plants. Feed the plants only what they need, and a flush should be overkill.
Try using a commercial flushing(chelating) agent;flora kleen comes to mind there are several others. IMO plain water is not all that effective. The specific flushing products will actually draw salts out that are locked in plant tissue much more rapidly and completely than water. If done correctly the plant should lose most of it's chlorophyll . I think that a lot of the harshness in poorly flushed bud is caused by the chlorphyll in plant tissue, when burned chlorophyll decomposes to pyroles and amine compounds both are nasty tasting and smelling. This is the reason that I also cold condition my plants while flushing to fool them into senescence and turn on the catabolism of chlorophyll. The added benifit to your erb burning clean... is the awesome array of colors that appear.
HM
 

bigbag

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a little bird told me flushing agents are simply concentrated magnesium sulphate ( epson salt ). dont waste your $...
 

highonmt

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a little bird told me flushing agents are simply concentrated magnesium sulphate ( epson salt ). dont waste your $...

I got a feeling your little bird is full of chicken nanny...Do you recommend that we all just make a conc solution of epsom salt? Good luck with that. I have a feeling they are using edta or something similar and probably multi dentate at that; Seeing as when you use flora kleen etc will take off precipitated salts quicker than yer sisters knickers..Cheers,
HM
 

CannaBunkerMan

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I got a feeling your little bird is full of chicken nanny...Do you recommend that we all just make a conc solution of epsom salt? Good luck with that. I have a feeling they are using edta or something similar and probably multi dentate at that; Seeing as when you use flora kleen etc will take off precipitated salts quicker than yer sisters knickers..Cheers,
HM

I'll give that a try next time, and I'll report back.
 
There was an old thread on here, I cant find it now. But the person grew in square pots filled with hydrotron. He took them out his flower room put them in a SWC of plain water. Pretty simple.


Excuse me for being ignorant but what is SWC? Shallow water Culture?? How exactly does one achieve SWC??
 

Yes_I_Am

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you only need to flush if you have fed your plant to much, i tend to flush if my leaves are shiney and thick, if they are papery and light i wont flush as heavily. so i do flush but for how long depends on the plant.
 
Be careful if not flushing. It can be a gamble. not only can you make nasty tasty weed, you can make it into asbestos. I've had unflushed weed that would NOT burn no matter WHAT. You could dry it till it turned to dust. Even in a pipe it would just turn to hard black coal. Lips and tongue would burn with a metallic taste.

You COULD try this.
Right after chopping, put all the branches in buckets of pH correct water under 12/12 light for a few days. You'll see that they do still draw water and metabolize.
Doing that instead of flushing in the main room/system can allow you to squeeze-in an extra crop/year sometimes...depending on strain and how long you would normally flush.
I've had success doing that but have since returned to a flush. I just feel safer that way and it works with my strains and staggered schedules.

YMMV.
PEACE.
 

Hammerhead

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I dont call it a flush. Flushing is when you need to get salt build up and or PH issues back in check and you flush with copious amount of water.. When I harvest I stop feeding nutrients for the last 2 weeks so all the girls only get pH water until I think there ready to harvest. It's usually 2-3 weeks of plain water.
 
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