New Approach to Vertical Scrog - Yoke style

[thinkin]

Havent seen anyone do this yet so calling this "new"
Been working on this (low watt) v-scrog solution for about a year now.. and HERE IS MY SOLUTION.


Yoke style vertical scrog is based off soda bottle plastic carriers.


Idea to create two yokes(top and bottom) around the cooltube/bulb. Plants grow vertically through the yoke. Critical fact is the branches are ALWAYS kept close to light which is critical for low wattage lights. Horizontal spacing is provided between the branches. And Yoke wont block much light.

I wont recommend using the soda yokes. I will be using some plastic fencing secured with zip ties. But you get the idea.

As a result, Plants and light have a very close relationship. Best conditions for monster buds. Plant access will have to addressed. (sliding drawer? lazy susan)

Havent tested or even built. But confident solution is golden. Someone want to try?

anything to train this maddness!
bamboo stakes just dont cut it.

 

[megayields]

I would worry about proper light penetration if I understand what your trying to convey....also one of the MAIN idea's behind vert growing is allowing the plant to grow all along the sides NOT just a top down typical horizontal method.


IF (and I may not be clear on youyr idea here) you constrict the pants within the "yoke" I would think you would loose a lot of bud nodes ability to be reached by the lumens, please correct me if I am not getting your hypothesis?

 

[thinkin]

picture= 1000 words

picture= 1000 words



Setup: Cooltube with scrog screen attached. (may attached at mid point of cooltube)
Note: This scrog isnt even close to finished.

Purpose: This style of scrog allows great control of distance of branch to the light. Also keep the plants from fighting each other for light.

Plan: Plants will only use first and maybe second set of holes in netting. My plants are fan shaped not bushes. Yield isnt an issue. Hey more is more!

IT WILL be hands down better than string/pipe cleaners and bamboo stakes!


FYI- must consider access to plants. I am making a cabinet with removeable sides and mounted on wheels.

 

[Snook]

I'm always listening to something new but I'm not getting the concept. Is the bottle plastic thingy somewhere in your second pic? There is a thread about defoliation that might help, what looks like to me like height issues. The third picture is, very, artsy. I see the two items but cant gain perspective on up, down, or sideways. Some more pics thinkn. How low watt?

 

[thinkin]

another pic

another pic



Here is a mint plant with new scrog and cooltube.
Actual setup would netting in midway(not on bottom/underneath as in picture) up cooltube. Netting would obviously be trimmed and attached to cooltube.

the other pics..
soda yoke is the inspiration for the design. (plant in one hole, cooltube in another)
netting laying ontop of cooltube wasnt clear- ignore that.

new idea is scrog is directly attached to cooltube.
managing the ever critical distance to light.

Its summer and too hot to run a batch. I wont even build the new scrog until fall.

Can imagine you could use this scrog with 150-400 watters. Suspect but have no experience with high watts, beyond 400 watts the distance to light may become less important.

yield/height/deflorial are not an issue. Managing/maintaining distance to light and managing the plants crowding each other are the issues!

Getting atleast a QPer per run with a 150 hps. (90% sure i got 5-6 Zs this run and buds are not donkey ds like last run which had better distance to light management)

(keeping the girls in the light's sweet spot!= big healthy buds)

 

[tngreen]

i like the ideas and can see what you are trying achieve. With scrog, to maximize yield it is crucial to know your strain and what kind of stretch/node spacing it will give you. Sounds like you are trying to find a way to use unfamiliar strains and still have great success as youd be able to adjust mid way through. Would be tough with a scrog setup but def think it could work. I think each pot having its own screen would be the way to do this so you can adjust each according to individual needs ie move closer to light if it didnt give the stretch expected. individual screens would allow more control on shaping the plant as well.

 

[thinkin]

distance to light

distance to light

dam loggin time outs ! kidding me? I AM A STONER! I'm not going to pay attention to how long i am taking to post a reply!

lost my detailed post. summarized


Regardless of strain, 20-30 stalks or common 4 stalks distance is light has a major effect on bud size. Defloring and pruning have always been applied.

My plants form a single layer hugging the cooltube. They dont form shape of a bush. Run the same strain at different distances, determine sweet spot is about an inch in size around the cooltube. Never had a problem with plants growing too close to light. Any burning due to bud hitting cooltube was due to human error when organizing the cabinet. Yoke scrog would fix this problem.

Conclusion:
When inches matter, scrog attached to the plant's pot can not control distance to as well as scrog attached directly to cooltube/bulb.