ROOT ROT.....HELLLLP!!!!!

[Precious420]

Ugghhh! Overnite my baby got root rot and I dont know what to do? Can someone PLEASE advise quickly.

I seperated my girl from the group bc she needs more room and I put her in a bubble tote (3 air stones n a 6gl tub) just for the night and she has clear snot looking crap on her whats the best way to get it off, please Im freaking out!!

I have a small dyi set up....5gl bucket on bottom, pump n air stone and tote on top, 2 air stones, fill n drain plugs.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

2ml of bleach per 10 gal of water... every other day.

 

[Precious420]

BLEACH??? Really, I read 10ml of peroxide per gal of water? Im leary on the bleach so I did the hydrogen peroxide and see how that works overnight. Thanks anyways

 

[greenhaus]

bleach or hydrogen peroxide . the good high concentrated one.
start ASAP or you will be very upset.

 

[krunchbubble]

use the bleach at what poopy recommends.....

can use up to 5ml's for initial root rot infestation, then maintain with the 2ml per....

 

[Mr. Mountain]

What is everyones opinion on Hygrozyme? I use it but it's damn expensive. I have seen it save several plants from root rot due to failed pumps clogged lines etc.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Clear snot doesn't sound like root rot that sounds like algae. What color is your container? Is it light proof? How's your water temp?

If your ph is rising daily more than usual that is an indication of algae. If you have tiny bubbles that collect at the edges of your water line that is an indication of algae. Also, if you didn't notice a whole lot of bubbling reaction when you added peroxide then it's not root rot it's algae.

If it is actually root rot peroxide works well. Go easy on it though too much will fuck up your roots I've done it before. If they are still firm in the morning then you're still in good shape. If they turn to a wet spaghetti consistency and float then you fucked'em.

Personally, I'd gently tickle the roots and get as much snot off as possible, and roots that are soft and come off easily are dead I would pull them all off and leave the ones that are still firm and strong. New ones will grow. After you tickle and there's all snot and dead roots in the water, change to a fresh bucket and see if it comes back. Repeat as necessary.

I don't have experience with bleach but I've heard good things about it. Physan 20 also works well.

When I was dealing with these problems, I tried Hygrozyme and it seemed to make it worse. Some people swear by it though. I won't use it again.

 

[ProfGerbik]

yes root rot, is normally just that looks like brown, black rotting roots. im not sure what that slime is but it could just be from the water if you are growing in hydro using a bubbler it could very easily do this also sometimes with nutes that arent mixed well before being put in.

really shouldnt be that much of a problem.

personally i dont like the idea of using bleach or peroxide especially on roots. ive used general hydroponics flora shield all my life for any root problems i have had which luckily for me has only happened once. when i used to use a diy dwc bubbler, i got pretty bad root rot once but i used the flora shield and it stopped it immediately.

this is exactly what i did and this can be used to remove this slime i bet also, because flora shield is a great rinser for roots in general to prevent these things from ever happening again. use the recommended dosage per gallon which is usually 1:1000 dilution, in simpler terms 1oz of flora shield per gallon of water or 10ml per liter of water.

now this is only if you can access your roots easily and can put your plants in place to do this and be able to clean the roots.

well if you can get to your roots easily lets get started. make sure its ph'ed of course, then get a spray bottle put it in there and make sure you have the spray not so misty. make sure you have a place where this can all drain freely you do not by any means want flora shield in your growing res or the water you regularly use to grow with, you can but only in very very small amounts i cant stress this enough because it will kill your plants within a days time if you were to add this to your res without consideration.. but we are just spraying the roots and letting them drain in either your tub or something. thought it was important to tell you that though.

k get another bottle with just regular ph'ed water for afterwards, use the flora shield on any parts of the roots that you see or feel could be a problem and just spray that stuff away with the bottle you had ready. it should come right off, once you feel youve cleaned the roots well enough, grab the spray bottle of regular water and rinse the roots as well as you can.

bam! they should be clean as hell now and your plants should in turn be much happier and all without using bleach or peroxide on your roots. when i had root rot this stuff worked so well that my roots looked brand new after i used it, it really is a great product for root problems and disease prevention.

 

[ProfGerbik]

well hope this helps i tried to be as detailed as possible, its really not that hard. to shorten it up just buy some flora shield, use some spray bottle with the flora shield and one with regular water both ph'ed. clean the roots with flora shield, then rinse them off with the regular water.

 

[Precious420]

=) Your advice has been awesome!!! I did go and get sum H202 and followed everyones instruction and TAH DAH we have success. It seems that it was sum sorta clear snot and not root rot (whew...wiping the forehead) I just ck'd on her and her roots are no longer AS snotty. I did jus like you said and made a small batch and gently fluffed her roots to remove that shit and she is doing much better, stressd like a mutha but she's still here.

Dude at the store was cool enuff to give me some samples of Rhizotonic and it worked wonders along with 35% H202 I think shes gona be fine. SHe's Pissed off..hahaha..but fine for now. Give her a day or 3 to recoup and hopefully she'll do a complete revive.

My resv n tote is all black w/locking lids and my temp is 76-78 Ph 5.8-6 and all lite tight. I ck them everyday 2x's. I think I did it to her by accident by moving her and taking her out of her norm system thinking it would be better to move her from outside to inside. Which probably isnt a bad idea but it goes back to the old saying...if it aint broke dont try to fix it!

Thank you guys for the info and once again...Muuuuch appreciated!!!!!!!!!
Update in a week.

PEACE

 

[Precious420]

ProGerbik.... I use Flora Products as well and I believe the Rhizotonic is a close similar but Im thinking now, probably would'nt hurt to do a complete water change in a day u think?

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

your rez temps are high.. your gonna run into alot of problems... chiller works wonders to get it down to the right level.... also h202 will kill the rhizotonic you got... one or the other...

 

[Precious420]

Grrrrrr!!!!! Ugh what the "F" I jus ck'd her and damn if its not snotting up again.

Poopy you said......also h202 will kill the rhizotonic you got....one or the other... well i added them both so I guess I found out....sh*t!!!

So I guess I should go ahead and do another water change now and do just the h202 n ph'd water only, nutes or no nutes??

I thought 76-78 was good temps? What do you suggest is the best temp?

Also just to be safe I was told to use 1.5 tsp 35% peroxide per gal of water, would you agree or suggest otherwise?

Ugh, I cant believe this is happening, she's been flowering for 3wks now and looks really really good!!!!

 

[Precious420]

@ George Bush

Ok so I did notice the lil bubbles on the sides and Im just wondering whats causing all this algae? I did a lil reading on the Rhizotonic and it clearly says it contains algae so Im guessing that THATS whats added to an already funky algae issue? If its my temps then can someone please give me the proper temps I "should" be at before its too late and I end up loosing her altogether. Thanks Guys

 

[GeorgeWBush]

I feel your pain. Been there.

I can now say with certainty that you are dealing with algae, or a bacteria. It's possible you have root rot in addition to that, but if your roots are all white then you do not.

There are many different types of algae and bacteria. Some are easier to deal with than others.

It could be as simple as lowering your water temps. Go into the mid-60's with them. I had a friend with a similar problem and that fixed it. Check daily and if need be clean the roots change out your reservoir. For him that's all it took, because the cause was high temps, which you have.

Fuck the peroxide it's not going to do shit for this. Just my opinion. Bleach may help but I have no experience with it. Physan 20 will definitely help.

The snot is algae and it eats and suffocates your roots. If you have other buckets that are not infected make sure you isolate this one from them, and sterilize your equipment before going into them.

You need to start researching dude before your plants die. Start with this thread and see if it's anything like what you have.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55259&highlight=slime

You can also do and advanced search. Search 'titles only' for 'slime' and a bunch of threads on this subject will come up.

When I dealt with this it just kept coming back. I lost 2 harvests to it. Half way through my third harvest when it came back again I just transferred everything right into coco, net pots and all, and hand watered. The plants hardly even stalled and finished beautifully. I've been running coco ever since. It was a last resort but worked a charm. I deprived this stuff of the one thing it needs most... water. It's a bit extreme, but it will definitely save your harvest if all else fails.

Good luck.

 

[Precious420]

Well, I went ahead and did yet another complete system clean, water change, and bleach water wash on everything, flushed her roots in some more h202 wash and then let her roots semi air dry b4 putting her back in. Ck'd the temps and they were both at 78 I put a frozen bottle of water in the res to try n get the temp down a lil further.

I did ck that link and i remember seeing those pics b4 but I have nothing like that going on , my root ball is big n long and their still white...ish more so like beige so far and the slime is clear and in patches.

What still puzzles me is I had all 3 of my girls together in the same box and never had any issues it wasnt until i thought they looked a lil cramped and chose to move the biggest 1 inside the house for more room and overnight got all this.

The other 2 are still doing just fine in the same surroundings, Weird!
Dude at the hydro store told me that it wouldnt hurt to move them inside beings that they are in the garage and it gets pretty hot in there. Im still wanting to move them inside but hell im scared now, but if by morning its back again then I'm likely going to putm in coco like you had mentioned. Its my 1st so im kinda partial for all the time spent, plus she looks too damn good to let it waste away n die.

Appreciate all the help

Mahalo

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Yeah I hear ya. The slime starts small and just grows and grows. You see how fast it can grow in just a single day. I've had the same thing, with multiple plants in a veg container and only one or 2 had the slime. Eventually they all got it.

Are you growing in a tent? That tends to bake the dwc containers and make them warm. Even when my room temps were 75 degrees, the water was still way too warm. Sometimes I'd put my hand in there and it felt like bath water. Summer is a difficult time to do dwc. I know 4 people who last summer either got root rot or the slime. One just cut his down and did a soil run instead. I helped another switch over to coco and he saved his harvest. The other got a chiller and his problems (root rot) went away. If you can't get a chiller you're really gonna have a rough time. It isn't even really hot yet.

Coco is great I get almost the same yields and it's way less work.

 

[Precious420]

Ok so I did a complete water change bleached everything and did the h202 flush n fluff for now till i can get to the store but as of this morning all seems to be well, =) roots are still off white....ish.
I looked at them pics and I've got nothing like that my roots are long n full. I dropped the temps down to 70 with a few frozen water bottles. So for now alls well lets see how it goes for the next 2 days and if it comes back them im def trans her in coco.

Muuuuuch Appreciate all your help.
Peace

 

[Precious420]

HAHAHAHA.... dude all i can do at this point is laugh!
So i did a complete change and sanitized everything did the h202 flush again and all was well last night till this afternoon. I ck'd her and son of a bitch if the clear snot stuff changed its texture to solid white gel blobs WTF right?!

Anyways I got the physan 20 but i need to know what ratio to use, the bottle doesnt clearly specify in referance to what ever the hell it is she's got so, can you please tell me how much to use per gal. and if i should use it just to dip the roots or add it completly to all the new ph'd water sorry bro for all the question but I really appreciate your or any1's help.

 

[Precious420]

GeorgeWBush, its a 3x3 cabinet then i made a 4x4 thinking it would be better for more room good thing I did bc now I got Ms Death becomes her in the small one seperated from the others. What blows my mind is the others are still in 78 temps and have yet to show 1 single problem, aint that a bitch! Im going to be moving them as well to cooler temps to avoid any more of this bs Im so blowed by all this.