Seed Whoring on the Boo/Bay

[fukndenny]

It's really getting sad.

Anyone with a CFL bulb and a empty milk carton is a breeder now.

You've got people throwing genetics together that have no idea where they came from. You've got kids growing in their parents homes that are breeders selling seeds on the bay.

It's becoming a gold rush.

I find the humor value worth discussing. Why in the world are there so many no name breeders just popping up allover the boo/bay? Easy, they like to make MONEY!

Nobody cares about quality genetics anymore. It's all about that dollar. If it looks good enough to smoke, then it's good enough to sell on the boo/bay.

Don't know what else to say, disappointing to see the lack of care going into peoples medicinal choices. I also think untested seeds should be freebies.

Have a great Sunday boys.

 

[fukndenny]

Wow already negative rep for that?

At least have the decency to respond if you disagree. Wow.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Then just buy from the breeders you feel are legit.

No one is forcing you to buy anything.

 

[Iron_Lion]

1. Lots of peeps just buy shit to say they have it and it never actually gets grown, so they dont even care if they turn out good or not.

2. Its the safest way to exchange genetics among internet friends, so these peeps may not be doing it for the cash or to get huge just get stuff out to peeps they know but dont want to reveal themselves.

3. Putting it for low priced sale insures the people who want it will get it, give it away as freebies and anybody could end up getting it even if they dont want it or care.

4. If you know your strains well enough you can know by looking at the parents that is a no fail combination, i.e is it possible to get anything less than awesome with you cross it to lets say OG Kush?

5. Just because you put it up for sale doesnt mean people will buy it.

6. Why not support the little guy that does it out of love of closet pollen chucking, and charges a little bit of money to subsidies his or her hobby .

7. everybody has to start somewhere.

Now the things I hate it when you see brand new companies, with undocumented parents asking big money for untested crosses. I dont see this so much at the bay but some seedbanks nowadays have shit listed by these companies that popped up over night, have genetic combinations that dont even add up, i.e 2 clone only parents but are regular seeds and no mention of how the male was derived and then to boot they come with a hefty price tag. I dont let this shit bother me too much because I just dont buy them, be an educated customer then you have to worry about it.


You sound jealous and bitter, nobody likes a hater and nobody is twisting your arm to buy shit.

 

[fukndenny]

I am not jealous or bitter, maybe my original post came off wrong.

I just think there should be better "standards" so to speak in place for screening breeders, so that not just every person who has seeds available can sell them. This floods the market with a lot of "unknowns".

 

[Iron_Lion]

Another thing you have to consider is all of the new markets that have opened up or taken off in recent years like Spain, California, Canada, or various other med states where people can produce seeds without fear. If the US ever legalizes you will see the industry explode, you think its bad now just wait, I also think you will see the Euro seed bubble deflate with overseas sales as they could be produced and sold domestically.

 

[soil margin]

This floods the market with a lot of "unknowns".

Being able to distinguish between the known and unknown is what separates the pros from the amateurs.

I'l keep growing the good stuff and let everyone else do their thing. If they're not growing fire they ain't competing with me anyways.

 

[fukndenny]

Being able to distinguish between the known and unknown is what separates the pros from the amateurs.

I'l keep growing the good stuff and let everyone else do their thing. If they're not growing fire they ain't competing with me anyways.

I understand that.

But why not educate people so they have the best medicinal choices available?

 

[In~Plain~Site]

There's a whole myriad of topics that this subject could get into, none of which would end well if you want to stay on this site.

Do as I say, not as I do


Like a fly-by-night plumber in the yellow pages

 

[Iron_Lion]

But why not educate people so they have the best medicinal choices available?

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Not to mention the world is full of stupid people, and as mention above let idiots grow shitty genetics, if everybody have 5 star herb what fun would that be. What everone else grows is not my problem

 

[john cutter]

Being able to distinguish between the known and unknown is what separates the pros from the amateurs.

I'l keep growing the good stuff and let everyone else do their thing. If they're not growing fire they ain't competing with me anyways.

x2

 

[fukndenny]

There's a whole myriad of topics that this subject could get into, none of which would end well if you want to stay on this site.

Do as I say, not as I do


Like a fly-by-night plumber in the yellow pages

I get it, seems to be a lot of tension already.

My main point is I think there should be a more cautious/selective process on determining what breeders/seeds are available to benefit the grower and giving him/her the best available medicinal options.

I don't even know how one would implement it-- I was just trying to bring some light to the subject on a boring sunday.

 

[Bullfrog44]

This is why I only buy from 2 breeders most of the time. Screw messing with untested seeds. You guys think that is bad, come buy a clone in Cali. Shit is never what they say it is.

 

[SirTOKESalot]

Your going to have alot of people around here that don't want to hear your problems.

Don't like whats going on? then don't buy. there's alot of junk yes, and random crosses but just like buying anything, sort out the china made shit and buy the American made in a sense.
I Bought C99 seeds that were bros grim stock for 35$ 6 months ago. That's a smaller breeder "FTL" If he did not put out the cheep ass bros grim stock c99 for cheap as fuck Iwould not have two pineapple phenos right now and a batch of seeds maturing.

Just feels to me like this is a post to help you get your numbers up or just trying to get a reaction from people kickin it here, There are still 150$ seeds out there just make sure spend your money and avoid the shit... simple. no need for a post.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

PM Gypsy with your concerns,I guess would be a start to implement it if you are concerned what gowers around the globe have going in thier gardens.

 

[fukndenny]

You guys think that is bad, come buy a clone in Cali. Shit is never what they say it is.

I hear that a lot, it's lame. That's what I mean about people just seeing the dollar sign. If they can get it out the door, they don't care what the end result is. I know more than a few people who've had the "mislabeled" clones problem.

 

[fukndenny]

Your going to have alot of people around here that don't want to hear your problems.

Don't like whats going on? then don't buy. there's alot of junk yes, and random crosses but just like buying anything, sort out the china made shit and buy the American made in a sense.
I Bought C99 seeds that were bros grim stock for 35$ 6 months ago. That's a smaller breeder "FTL" If he did not put out the cheep ass bros grim stock c99 for cheap as fuck Iwould not have two pineapple phenos right now and a batch of seeds maturing.

Just feels to me like this is a post to help you get your numbers up or just trying to get a reaction from people kickin it here, There are still 150$ seeds out there just make sure spend your money and avoid the shit... simple. no need for a post.

This isn't really my problem, it's alot of peoples problem. This was just a discussion, sorry i've offended you so much, lol.

 

[supersmallgiant]

I really think it a positive thing. Its free market. You have the right to buy only the seeds that you like. No one forces you to buy seeds that you don't want. Someone else may want them however and them simply being available makes it all work. I know there are a few crosses that I would love to see on the bay that are not made by large breeders and without a doubt wouldn't catch on like the big names do. Seedbay is a safe place to trade genetics whether they come from from big names or are just being traded between internet friends. To police what genetics and from who they come from seems sad to me. Free market FTW.

 

[B. Friendly]

I think when you hear a guy like Fukn bitch it is a good thing
if nobody complains nothing gets done
it's called feed back

if I ran this site I would take it as a marker, if somebody thinks something is foolish enough to voice their opinion intellegantly then give them the time of day

it is not always time to argue with everybody, instead the point may need to be considered:

WE DO NOT AS A COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE BS SOLD AS QUALITY SEED!!!!!!!

it goes on far to much, if a dude does not where their genetics came from then they might not really understand what they are doing... common sense peeps


Competition runs the risk of drastically reducing quality
That's why it's up to Gypsy not to let that happen or he has a site with a lot of crap product, is that what we want
but i don't hear much on the boards of i bought this and it sucked.

what i am hearing is that we don't want to have 10 breeders with the same thing or cross, it will get hard to tell what is what...

 

[303hydro]

I have tons of respect for large breeders who do a lot of work, but many of them have a larger bankroll to make life easier as well.

For these small guys it not only takes a lot of work to get gear listed but also they are working a full time job as well. Everyone is not getting into it because of $, but because of the love for the "sport."
Breeders only take home 1/2 of what you are paying and they have to put all the work into making the gear and taking the risk to get it to Sbay. I doubt very many of the small guys are catching much of a profit at all considering they are only pulling $2-5 a seed...
Even here in Colorado where dogshit is becoming more valuable then nuggets it would be much easier to grow a couple pounds then ship 1000's of seeds to England.

You can pm most private breeders and ask them questions like history and how big of selections they are working with, environment, nutes,....there are just as many hacks out there with big seed companies imo.


Some guys hoard their best cut, some guys pollinate it and send the seeds to server fund. Just saying.....