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Medical Marijuana is a CORPORATE law, for Corporation Employees, not Free People

Yes, it's true folks.

Medical Marijuana, as passed in all states, by Amendment or Initiative, or Passed in the House, and Senate, are all CORPORATE laws, and thus, are not applicable to the Free, un-contracted, un-enfranchised, Sovereign People.

When the States became Corporations, and went from the California Republic or [California State] and the Constitution of 1849, and became the [State of California], a Corporation, in 1879, with the Constitution of 1879, as did ALL states in the Union, eventually, they became Corporations, following the civil war.

Prior to the Civil War, in 1863, Congress was convened under Legislative Assembly, but post Civil War, 1868, when the government came back from Marshal Law, under Lincoln's Lieber Codes, the government was reconvened by Executive Order, not Legislative Assembly. This Executive Order is done by an Executive of a Corporation, the Chief Executive Officer, or CEO.

As of 1868, when the government reconvened under Executive Order, it did so from a specialized section of land, 68 square miles of Washington DC, and this was codified as a NEW CORPORATION, called, get this.....The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

From this date of 1868 on, after the Act to Incorporate the United States of America was passed, every state became a corporation as well, not the state that originally existed, but a NEW STATE emerged, and the NEW MEMBERS of these states, were franchises as created by the 14th Amendment. These new "citizens" were actually franchises of these states, which were in fact CORPORATIONS, and nothing more. Those who vote in the states and for this new federal government were assumed to be "employees" and franchises in effect. When you vote in these states and federal government elections, you are not voting for freedoms in the state, you are voting for rights of employees in a corporation, and NOTHING MORE.

Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it. :smoke out:
 
[FONT=&quot] In 1871, the following Act was passed in Congress;

16 United States Statutes at Large 419
FORTY FIRST CONGRESS SESSION III
CHAPTER 62, 1871
CHAP. LXII. -- An Act to provide a government for the District of Columbia.

Then it goes on to read:

"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress assembled, That all that part of the territory of the United States included within the limits of the District of Columbia be, and the same is hereby, created into a government by the name of the District of Columbia, by which name it is hereby constituted a body corporate for municipal purposes, and may contract with, sue and be sued, plead ..."

In 20 Corpus Juris Secundum [Corporations] at 1786;

"The United States government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state"

Here are a couple of court cases that illustrate the position of our current administration;

"Governments descend to the level of a mere private corporation and take on the characteristics of a mere private citizen where private corporate commercial paper [federal reserve notes] and securities [checks] is concerned..." -- Clearfield Trust Company v. United States, 318 U.S. 363-371, 1942 [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] "When governments enter the world of commerce, they are subject to the same burdens as any private firm or corporation" -- U.S. v. Burr, 309 U.S. 242 See: 22 U.S.C.A.286e, Bank of U.S. vs. Planters Bank of Georgia, 6L, Ed. (9 Wheat) 244; 22 U.S.C.A. 286 et seq., C.R.S. 11-60-103

And this one : "[the federal United States] is a for profit corporation which 16 Stat. 419 created by the name District of Columbia" - District of Columbia vs. Cluss, 103 U.S. 705, 26L. Ed. 455

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budlover123

Member
I for one am grateful for any real information based in fact, if its not factual, let us know, but for the love of god don't be afraid to argue about it!
 

havalota

Member
I for one am grateful for any real information based in fact, if its not factual, let us know, but for the love of god don't be afraid to argue about it!

In that case, go to this site and learn. They, those that run this site, will not tell you what the law says, rather they point you to original documents and history so that you may learn for yourself. How to defend yourself and become free from corporate entanglements. Learning who you are in all cases. The corporate soul. Contracts and trusts etc... This is not the home page, but it is one that will help filter out the pretenders from the real deal.

http://www.teamlaw.net/Mythology.htm#Strawman
 

Hash Zeppelin

Ski Bum Rodeo Clown
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You are only controlled by them if you let them control you. I have completely separated my self from state and federal control, and will never go back. They would have to kill me.

Ian Anderson From Jethro Tull explains my out look on society pretty well. I feel I am just an observer now. I have no interest in participating in the American Charade.

" Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of The New Day "

Meanwhile back in the year One --- when you belonged to no-one ---
you didn't stand a chance son, if your pants were undone.
`Cause you were bred for humanity and sold to society ---
one day you'll wake up in the Present Day ---
a million generations removed from expectations
of being who you really want to be.

skating away on the thin ice of the New Day.

So as you push off from the shore,
won't you turn your head once more --- and make your peace with everyone?
For those who choose to stay,
will live just one more day ---
to do the things they should have done.
And as you cross the wilderness, spinning in your emptiness:
you feel you have to pray.
Looking for a sign
that the Universal Mind (!) has written you into the Passion Play.

And as you cross the circle line, the ice-wall creaks behind ---
you're a rabbit on the run.
And the silver splinters fly in the corner of your eye ---
shining in the setting sun.
Well, do you ever get the feeling that the story's
too damn real and in the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage, and it seems like
you're the only person sitting in the audience?

Skating away on the thin ice of the New Day.
 

dddaver

Active member
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I always believe everything I read on this here internetses. Maybe MMJ are actually alien contol tactics :rolleyes:.
 

Desiderata

Bodhisattva of the Earth
Veteran
After 17 I lived my life under my rules, no government, no church, until I was 35 (the DEA captured me). Freedom for me became being out of custody by the fascist. My courage was gone,.... I thought freedom now was being a few steps away from them. For me to 'carry on' with my cannabis trade I learned how to do everything right in front of their faces, practically. They can not watch everybody yet, but they are very close to it. The rumor of Nixon wanting to put all the long hairs in camps was true as far as I'm concerned.

Back then we had anti-government groups that fought the government that were abruptly crushed/murdered by the FBI to keep certain genius types from spreading the truth & reason about just like what this thread is explaining. All the youth is distracted with todays high tech gadjets......brainwashed...IMO

I admire Hash Zeppelin for his courage!....right on brother!
 

Miss Blunted

Resident Bongtender
Veteran
How ridiculous. I'm a medical marijuana patient and the only person I will live on my knees for is my Son. There will NEVER NOT be a system that we all have to get around. If you can't get used to it, you're a slave to your own mind, which is worse than working around the system to live your life the way you want.

Biggest reason I don't come around here anymore....too much of the conversation on this site is overly idealistic, less realistic. Extreme bias in any direction closes the mind.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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How ridiculous. I'm a medical marijuana patient and the only person I will live on my knees for is my Son. There will NEVER NOT be a system that we all have to get around. If you can't get used to it, you're a slave to your own mind, which is worse than working around the system to live your life the way you want.

Biggest reason I don't come around here anymore....too much of the conversation on this site is overly idealistic, less realistic. Extreme bias in any direction closes the mind.

yup. that why you just gotta forget about them and live your life the way you want to. mentally separate your self from control. that is all you need to do to obtain freedom. It is harder than it sounds, when a person's mind has been brainwashed to think America is the greatest democracy ever created their whole life. Reading about Buddhism helped me.

When the pigs decide to intrude on your freedom just move. Ditch the whole continent. the is a big globe.
 

gdiddy

New member
You can blame the "system" all you want for your lack of freedom, but that doesn't mean the responsibility doesn't lie with you. Most people don't have what it takes to actually go out and be who they want to be and live how they want to live. You're only a slave to the system if you allow them to enslave you.

By the way, whether or not our various levels of government are corporations is irrelevant (and they're not in the sense you're referring to). A corporation is simply structural framework, just like an NGO, monarchy, sole proprietorship, constitutional republic, club, cult, non-profit, church, and school district, etc. The type of structural entity isn't the problem, it's the members and their beliefs. If you don't like them ignore them. Or better yet, leave. Problem solved.

gdiddy
 

ijim

Member
We do have the opportunity to elect our corporate leaders. But unfortunately most play their game of us verses them and let the media and parties lead us by the nose. There will never be change unless we ignore the liberal, conservative and party banners and demand term limits and elect representatives on their own merits not on their party affiliation, liberal or conservative tags. We let the paid media decide what is right or what is wrong. We have become sheep and politicians and the media our shepherds.
 
You can blame the "system" all you want for your lack of freedom, but that doesn't mean the responsibility doesn't lie with you. Most people don't have what it takes to actually go out and be who they want to be and live how they want to live. You're only a slave to the system if you allow them to enslave you.

By the way, whether or not our various levels of government are corporations is irrelevant (and they're not in the sense you're referring to). A corporation is simply structural framework, just like an NGO, monarchy, sole proprietorship, constitutional republic, club, cult, non-profit, church, and school district, etc. The type of structural entity isn't the problem, it's the members and their beliefs. If you don't like them ignore them. Or better yet, leave. Problem solved.

gdiddy

You obviously didn't read the post, or it went right over your head, because what you are saying is ridiculous. Opinions are irrelevant, in relation to what I posted.
 

gdiddy

New member
I read the post. I personally don't subscribe to the whole freeman concept (as much as I would like to believe). BUT, my point is that whether or not the freeman perspective is true it's irrelevant. The system is never going to see it in any way that favors us and will simply steam roll you whether you are a "freeman" or not.

I guess I see it similarly to Miss Blunted:
There will NEVER NOT be a system that we all have to get around. If you can't get used to it, you're a slave to your own mind, which is worse than working around the system to live your life the way you want.
I've been where she's warning not to go and I've personally come to the conclusion that I'd rather just ignore the system and live my life how I want without going through a shit ton of research and effort to force the issue of my own natural sovereignty on deaf ears attached to people holding guns. I just try to stay out of it all as best I can.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, just adding another perspective. But no, sorry, opinions are not irrelevant to what you posted on a public forum designed for comment by others. I will concede that I maybe should have had another cup of coffee before posting my first post...:bashhead:

gdiddy
 
I read the post. I personally don't subscribe to the whole freeman concept (as much as I would like to believe). BUT, my point is that whether or not the freeman perspective is true it's irrelevant. The system is never going to see it in any way that favors us and will simply steam roll you whether you are a "freeman" or not.

I guess I see it similarly to Miss Blunted:
I've been where she's warning not to go and I've personally come to the conclusion that I'd rather just ignore the system and live my life how I want without going through a shit ton of research and effort to force the issue of my own natural sovereignty on deaf ears attached to people holding guns. I just try to stay out of it all as best I can.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, just adding another perspective. But no, sorry, opinions are not irrelevant to what you posted on a public forum designed for comment by others.

gdiddy

Sometimes, myself, I think this way. However, it's not a part of my belief system to be a slave, so I keep studying and learning. If you want to ignore freedom, it will go away.

The part of the opinion that is irrelevant, is any argument that "it will not work". This is not a discussion of whether or not freemen concepts work or not. It's about the law and the facts, and the fact that "Statutory Laws" are just corporate laws, and that's not really debatable with opinion. Maybe you have some contradictory facts. But the opinion that freemen beliefs are not important, or this or that argument will not work in court, is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
 

gdiddy

New member
Well, I'll give you that and I'm glad that we at least understand each others' perspectives.

So, being more relevant, educate me for a minute. What is the importance of the code you posted as it applies towards marijuana law specifically? Wouldn't the case be the same for any law applying to corporate employees? (That it's sort of inherently invalid regarding a sovereign person) What am I missing?
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
Know your incorporation.........

Know your incorporation.........

The act of incorporating states does not constitute corporations. "Incorporated" not unlike business incorporated means if a state bellies up, litigants may only go after state (government) coffers and state assets. Litigants (rich, powerful interests with powerful lawyers) can't go after the people's assets if and when the incorporated state can't pay it's obligation. Litigants will get any tax revenues already paid that haven't yet been spent but they can't come to you for more. That's to protect you because you didn't fuck it up.
 
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