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Stoned Coder
The story of the report was picked up by numerous news sources. I linked the HP article because it was the first one to hit my twitter feed, but there are other articles out there concerning the report. Google!
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guest86120975
K, this is how it should work. Cannabis should be treated like alcohol in the retail end, and home cultivation should also be allowed. Hard drugs should not be available in retail, but addicts must go to a center to obtain their weekly supply. They must be urine tested each time to make sure they're really using them and not selling them on the street. Further, dealing on the street will remain a felony. Each week the person meets a nurse/counselor to get their drugs, and they are asked if they want to sign a form to be held involuntarily to get clean.
SkimmingDaSky
Member
Global Commission On Drug Policy Calling For An End To War On Drugs
Global Commission On Drug Policy Calling For An End To War On Drugs
Heres a link with a copy of the report.
http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/
I haven't read the whole thing yet but here are some interesting things stated:
"Encourage experimentation by governments with models of legal regulation of drugs (with cannabis, for example) that are designed to undermine the power of organized crime and safeguard the health and security of their citizens"
"DECRIMINALIZATION INITIATIVES DO NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN DRUG USE"
“Our findings do not support claims that criminalization reduces cannabis use and that decriminalization increases cannabis use... With the exception of higher drug use in
San Francisco(LOL), we found strong similarities across both cities. We found no evidence to support claims that criminalization reduces use or that decriminalization increases use.”
Finally a step in the right direction. The report was released in June. I wonder how the US is going to react.
Global Commission On Drug Policy Calling For An End To War On Drugs
Heres a link with a copy of the report.
http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/
I haven't read the whole thing yet but here are some interesting things stated:
"Encourage experimentation by governments with models of legal regulation of drugs (with cannabis, for example) that are designed to undermine the power of organized crime and safeguard the health and security of their citizens"
"DECRIMINALIZATION INITIATIVES DO NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN DRUG USE"
“Our findings do not support claims that criminalization reduces cannabis use and that decriminalization increases cannabis use... With the exception of higher drug use in
San Francisco(LOL), we found strong similarities across both cities. We found no evidence to support claims that criminalization reduces use or that decriminalization increases use.”
Finally a step in the right direction. The report was released in June. I wonder how the US is going to react.
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Chris1
I wonder how blazed TJ was getting off those fatty hemp Js
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ak-51
I read about this on the BBC News site. I was happy reading the headline then immediately sad when reading what our (US) government's reaction to it was.
actually...starting at the UN is a good move. Repeal or modify the 1961 Single Convention Treaty.
Turn all the countries lose...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs
Turn all the countries lose...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs
You're right, they're crazy. Crazy like a fox... self-fulfilling prophecy.
IMO, that's the solution. Only problem, it's logical.
mississippi
Member
yes, i for one can agree that Europe doesnt care too much about what the US says. i personally dont have any problem with the american nation, i like them as well as i like anyone else. i just -like so many else- dont think what they are doing (or were doing) is good. i mean the american and the federal government. but if Europe is to lead the way once again, then we also have to get our shit together, because things around here arent exactly the way they should be. everybody knows this and i think they intend to do something about this soon. i can only hope these measures are gonna be the good ones. if its only about decriminalization then we're good, the word of the US doesnt have the power it used to. but, nonetheless this is something what the whole world have to realize first and then maybe we can start (or continue) to build a "better world". and maybe cannabis can finally have the role of the "good guy" in this world - like it used to during several centuries before our time - instead of the "stigmatized taboo" role. i hope the UN sees this and after this petition (which everbody heard of, i guess) they will have a niiice long conversation with each other about marijuana and drugs in every aspect. whether the petiotion fails or succeeds.
Ok, so everybody's familiar with George Shultz, right?
Ok, so everybody's familiar with George Shultz, right?
I was too young to keep up with George in the 1960s. But I did know him as one of Reagan's most influential cabinet members. Chief of Staff is arguably the most coveted administrative position outside POTUS. But that's somewhat limited to an inner circle... the Oval Office.
Secretary of State is like chief of staff gone global. Regan had none better than Shultz. Hillary Clinton is a world-class diplomat but nobody had the brass balls that Shultz carries, this side of Richard Holbrooke.
Balls and diplomacy, a rare combination.
Economists come and go. They're a dime a dozen. But by the time they make it to Treasury Secretary they've long-since arrived. Shultz knows failed economic policy like the back of his hand. Shultz equally knows failed international policy.
A three-year old could gather that the drug war makes no sense. Anybody taking the time to read this is way beyond that epiphany.
Shultz can and does out reason ANY argument for the status quot. IMO, he's a great example of higher education combined with common sense and resolve. He'll only resign if and when it's apparent that nobody's listening.
Great men go on to do great things after serving in public office. The rest become lobbyists, investment bankers and quarter-million dollar public speakers. Shultz is in the former category and the damn drug war must be pretty fucked up to make it his cause.
Ok, so everybody's familiar with George Shultz, right?
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I was too young to keep up with George in the 1960s. But I did know him as one of Reagan's most influential cabinet members. Chief of Staff is arguably the most coveted administrative position outside POTUS. But that's somewhat limited to an inner circle... the Oval Office.
Secretary of State is like chief of staff gone global. Regan had none better than Shultz. Hillary Clinton is a world-class diplomat but nobody had the brass balls that Shultz carries, this side of Richard Holbrooke.
Balls and diplomacy, a rare combination.
Economists come and go. They're a dime a dozen. But by the time they make it to Treasury Secretary they've long-since arrived. Shultz knows failed economic policy like the back of his hand. Shultz equally knows failed international policy.
A three-year old could gather that the drug war makes no sense. Anybody taking the time to read this is way beyond that epiphany.
Shultz can and does out reason ANY argument for the status quot. IMO, he's a great example of higher education combined with common sense and resolve. He'll only resign if and when it's apparent that nobody's listening.
Great men go on to do great things after serving in public office. The rest become lobbyists, investment bankers and quarter-million dollar public speakers. Shultz is in the former category and the damn drug war must be pretty fucked up to make it his cause.
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tumbleweed
duh...
its impossible to have a war on drugs in the first place the entire concept is wrong,
you cant go to war on substances..you can go to war on people
has long has poeple are breathing someone is using drugs always have always will.
war on drugs=filling up the prisons
its impossible to have a war on drugs in the first place the entire concept is wrong,
you cant go to war on substances..you can go to war on people
has long has poeple are breathing someone is using drugs always have always will.
war on drugs=filling up the prisons
They might take them down to get a whiff from some of those mass graves found on the mexican border for starters ...then give them all the data refuting any success at all in this last 30yrs & incracerations in the US the highest in the world since the "War on Drugs" started early 80's at 2mil jailed inmates & 5mil on probation , only China comes in a close 2nd with 1.2mil . But the US is only 5% of the total worlds population and 25% of our inmates on drug charges .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
And this yr they'll be eating the leather off their shoes when it comes to passing State budgets , let alone even beginning to pay down our National debt that stands at $14.4trillion dollars which is 90% of our slowing GDP an impossible debt thats completely unsustaineable & nothing they can do.
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5 Headlines just today as the Market stands on the cliff edge of perhaps a great fall here now absolutely terrible Job creation , there are no jobs . The US economy is stalling to a crawl , so they're finally forced to reexamine all these issues that got their asses elected , all it took now is the threat of National bankrupcy to get their attention & pull heads out of their asses...and hard rain may just wanna fall.
Literally for yesterday was first day of Hurricane season & NOAA predicting a real bad one in the Atlantic this year
last year was the 3rd worse on record . All it takes is one like Katrina to hit the Gulf in sept/oct & we're done .
Stocks post fifth straight week of losses
Stocks extend losing streak after government job report shows weak hiring in May
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-post-fifth-straight-apf-3971557327.html?x=0&.v=10" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-post-fifth-straight-apf-3971557327.html?x=0&.v=10
Few jobs added in May; unemployment up to 9.1 pct
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Few-jobs-added-in-May-apf-3059717337.html?x=0&.v=19" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Few-jobs-added-in-May-apf-3059717337.html?x=0&.v=19
More Americans Think Economy Will Never Recover
<A href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=More+Americans+Think+Economy+Will+Never+Recover&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNF" target=_blank>http://www.google.com/search?source...n-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNF
Obama: US economy still facing challenges
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-US-economy-still-facing-apf-2747601335.html?x=0" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-US-economy-still-facing-apf-2747601335.html?x=0
The last one is the most encouraging
Oil ends week unchanged at around $100 per barrel
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Oil-ends-week-unchanged-at-apf-702571201.html?x=0
Literally for yesterday was first day of Hurricane season & NOAA predicting a real bad one in the Atlantic this year
last year was the 3rd worse on record . All it takes is one like Katrina to hit the Gulf in sept/oct & we're done .
Stocks post fifth straight week of losses
Stocks extend losing streak after government job report shows weak hiring in May
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-post-fifth-straight-apf-3971557327.html?x=0&.v=10" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-post-fifth-straight-apf-3971557327.html?x=0&.v=10
Few jobs added in May; unemployment up to 9.1 pct
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Few-jobs-added-in-May-apf-3059717337.html?x=0&.v=19" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Few-jobs-added-in-May-apf-3059717337.html?x=0&.v=19
More Americans Think Economy Will Never Recover
<A href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=More+Americans+Think+Economy+Will+Never+Recover&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNF" target=_blank>http://www.google.com/search?source...n-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNF
Obama: US economy still facing challenges
<A href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-US-economy-still-facing-apf-2747601335.html?x=0" target=_blank>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-US-economy-still-facing-apf-2747601335.html?x=0
The last one is the most encouraging
Oil ends week unchanged at around $100 per barrel
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Oil-ends-week-unchanged-at-apf-702571201.html?x=0
No offense taken, mullray. Even Americans know the US is ferked. And you're right about wiping one's own nose before pointing out others' boogers.
mississippi
Member
and South America is getting on the right trail i think! after what the US did to them in the later centuries and what european colonization did to them before, now they are trying to stand ground and build their own world. and yes, they definitely dont like the US either. look at Brazil, or Uruguay. these are going to be really great countries in the close future and i believe that the entire continent is going through a big change. or maybe its not even a real change and its not something surprising... maybe we just didnt pay attention to them in the past few decades. i meant europeans when i said 'we', i dont know about others, but around here everyone (at least everyone i know and everyone i talk with about such things...) was a bit surprised when we lookad at the news about their growing democracy and liberalism. for instance, in Uruguay, you can grow dope, homosexuals can live together and have children, but abortion is still prohibited. that sounds pretty good, isnt it? in several parts of SA christian morality is taken more seriously then anywhere else. and its the kind of morality that Jesus liked not the kind that the US or Europe teaches to their "children". i think if Jesus would come back he would move to SA pretty soon. if he can raise the money to move...
look at Brazil, or Uruguay. these are going to be really great countries in the close future and i believe that the entire continent is going through a big change. or maybe its not even a real change and its not something surprising... maybe we just didnt pay attention to them in the past few decades. i meant europeans when i said 'we', i dont know about others, but around here everyone (at least everyone i know and everyone i talk with about such things...) was a bit surprised when we lookad at the news about their growing democracy and liberalism. for instance, in Uruguay, you can grow dope, homosexuals can live together and have children, but abortion is still prohibited. that sounds pretty good, isnt it? in several parts of SA christian morality is taken more seriously then anywhere else. and its the kind of morality that Jesus liked not the kind that the US or Europe teaches to their "children". i think if Jesus would come back he would move to SA pretty soon. if he can raise the money to move... 
