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Jose Guerena Killed: Arizona Cops Shoot Former Marine In Botched Pot Raid

Desiderata

Bodhisattva of the Earth
Veteran
I just saw this swat raid on CNN. 77 rounds were fired into his foyer/hallway. He was hit 22 times. They kept EMS outside for 1hour/14 minutes before they could see him. Of course he was already dead. They are saying his safety was still on his rifle.

This God Damn country (USA) has gone mad!
 
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ak-51

The drug war's actions against marijuana causes more damage to people and communities than the use of marijuana ever would. What don't they get about this?
 

greenluv707

pit wisper/ rare strain collector
so sad................

man they couldnt intersept him comming to or from the house?
they must have knew he was married and had a kid.pre raid detail?
cops suck straight up.................
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
I hate Guns

I hate Guns

Some str8 bullshit... I hate Guns

perhaps we should begin to understand what that emotion displays.

firearms are inanimate...they do nothing on their own.

your hatred should be directed at those subhuman animals that are brandishing them.

what a sad thing that this family was destroyed, but to devine that the weapons used were responsible is lunacy.
 

Storm Shadow

Well-known member
Veteran
Guns seem to do way more harm then good.... I see way more people being killed than being protected... Honestly is there any reason a gun should fire so many bullets at such a high velocity? When the Founding Fathers said the Right to Bare Arms....that was when people loaded muskets and it took 20 min to reload one shot...These gnarly guns today make people more inclined to go trigger happy....
 

OjoRojo420

Feeling good is good enough.
Veteran
Guns seem to do way more harm then good.... I see way more people being killed than being protected... Honestly is there any reason a gun should fire so many bullets at such a high velocity? When the Founding Fathers said the Right to Bare Arms....that was when people loaded muskets and it took 20 min to reload one shot...These gnarly guns today make people more inclined to go trigger happy....

Your thoughts are well intended, but please be clear about one thing:

Regardless of your position things are getting worse and more people are armed... including the bad guys from both sides of tracks.

Like in nature, if you are unarmed... you are easy target. Even walking with you shirt out protects you since the bad guys don't know for sure you ain't packing.

I will not be on my knees begging for my life... Nor if I go I'll go "alone".

Maybe its my military background, maybe I was brainwashed beyond any redemption.

But since human beings learned to use tools, the first thing was to get armed... to the teeth!

Be safe and lay low....

Ojo
 

paladin420

FACILITATOR
Veteran
Sir I respect your opinion and am sorry for what you hav seen. But.Do we blame the club for Cain and Able. A Firearm is a tool. Yes a dangerous tool. In the hands of a Marine defending his family it is safe until a target is identified, it is a good thing. In the hands of a moron who disregaurds all commonsense safty rules it is a dangerously bad thing.

Please insert the word 'chainsaw' where I used firearm.

Armed invaiders from the government broke into this mans HOME. This is no more about the tools used than the underware the s.q.a.t team was wearin (thongs obviously).
 
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Bazarocka

RIP JOSE GUERENA "SEMPER FI"

RIP JOSE GUERENA "SEMPER FI"

And again I have to ask my (USA) compatriots. WHAT IS MORE LIKELY TO happen to you? :ying:

1. Killed By A Terrorist

2. OD From Cannabis

3. OR KILLED/MURDERED BY A JACKBOOTED LOCAL LAW INFORCEMENT OFFICER.

Sorry but (I KNOW THAT ANSWER) ands thats why I got the hell out. :wave:
Dunno bout you all, BUT I'VE always trusted my neck hairs(instinct). And them rascals been standing straight up for a couple years. Anyway IM BACK where I belonged, graduated high school & college here in Europe. Basically grew up in the Netherlands and Germany. I'll be ALOT more active on the board now that Im outta their. BTW: At least here, I can wake & bake, turn the tube on, or read the paper, AND KNOW THAT something AS despicable as above has not happened. Not saying theres no crime over here. BUT definitely NO ONE GETS MURDERED/Carjacked on a daily basis in my city.:jump:
 

El Skunko

New member
they wonder why we call them pigs.....
god bless the wife and kids........
It's no compensation either knowing that the state of AZ is going to be paying out the ass in restitution........
Great job Obama.you scumbag puppet.allowing these kinds of travistes to continue in a effort to opress the people.
70 rounds seventy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! osama bin laden was shot twice and he fired back........
Im sick to my stomach now time to release my bile all over the red white and blue flag of lies......
 

Justice X

New member
This is unacceptable....I would like to know a country that is free of this type of wanton malice....Reading storys like these make me think evil thoughts....

But Im pushing past those thoughts and more on the lines of researching a new country to live in....

Ill be damned if my kids where to ever mix with those pigs kids...fucking scum
 

huntingbb

Member
all officers involved should face the death penalty - that was pure murder - it became that as soon as the pigs lied.

And yet... it seems unlikely there will be much more action than a settlement to the family, and the same pigs will carry on as per usual.

In unison:
:moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon:

oh and to the crap cops reading this post, if you carry yourself with 'ethics first' as your motto, then you can be titled a LEO.
 

Desiderata

Bodhisattva of the Earth
Veteran
The Fascists terrorize (fill with terror; coerce by threat or "violence") our lives everyday.

Excerpt
The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy. They use isolationism as a slogan to conceal their own selfish imperialism. They cultivate hate and distrust of both Britain and Russia. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

Excerpt
The rulers will act in secret, for reasons of “national security,” and the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine: government by executive fiat, state murder of “enemies” selected by the leader, undeclared wars, torture, mass detentions without charge, the looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new “security structures” targeted at the populace. In time, this will be seen as “normal,” as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone. It will all seem normal.

Yes, everything is normal...LOL
 

DrPoison

POISON GENETICS.
ICMag Donor
Some str8 bullshit... I hate Guns

Guns DONT kill people...cops KILL people!

This story is really sad. Like above mentioned, wouldnt it have been a lil easier to wait for him to come outside and snatch him up? This way his wife and children wouldn't be directly in harms way. Then they could search the premises while the house is empty. Too many cops want to be Rambo; especially when they get all psyched up for these raids...on the "wrong" houses! Do the cops/swat even look into the info that they are given, probably from crackheads swept off the streets, before smashing someones door down and firing 70 shots down the hallway??

If this were my house getting it's door knocked down...my safety would be off and those 70 rounds would be flying in the other direction! Fuckin pigs!
 
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