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didn't you post this already?
and didn't i tell you your whole premise is BS? there is no such thing as your made-up term "root soil food web"...
and didn't i tell you your whole premise is BS? there is no such thing as your made-up term "root soil food web"...
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decarboxylator
yeah, certain gurus asked me to make this a new thread. and your opinion is noted.
it's just "soil food web".
It's there, or it isn't.
it does not turn into a "root soil food web" by virtue of not having enough members to form a web.
You can grow with a soil food web supporting your plants, or you can sling bottles and ferts. don't confuse the two.
It's there, or it isn't.
it does not turn into a "root soil food web" by virtue of not having enough members to form a web.
You can grow with a soil food web supporting your plants, or you can sling bottles and ferts. don't confuse the two.
and if you need visual evidence of all those decomposers intact in my soil, let me know, or just put out a request to the OFC.
this is for soilless as well.
EDIT - what are you marketing?
this is for soilless as well.
EDIT - what are you marketing?
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Can I ask who you are citing or quoting? Or is this your own writing?
yeah sorry about that
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not sure where homophobia fits into this but...
I'm glad we put this root soil food web (TM) sillyness to rest.
a web should look like a web, not like an IV drip.
I'm glad we put this root soil food web (TM) sillyness to rest.
a web should look like a web, not like an IV drip.
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you should be.
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you missed it. It's the root-soil-fertilizer food web TM.
At least get it straight.
I'm confused. Who are you asking CT Guy?
At the opening of this thread all I saw was a photo of a diagram which was difficult to make out but seemed associated with plant allelopathy which is wide ranging but includes chemicals exuded to prevent other species from thriving.
It hardly encompasses the microbial nutrient loop, however I believe that the author, such as it is, having the quote transmuted from another thread, is trying to make a case for the existence of the microbial nutrient loop existing in soilless media, such as peat & coca shit with ammendments of bottled, so called organic, nutrients.
In my opinion the author does have a case in that truly organic substances will be (mostly) microbially processed if such a microbial population is in place, especially in a peat based growing media. The one part I do diverge on so far is that, as Mad has pointed out, there is no need to assume a lack of 'bugs and worms'. As a matter of fact this growing media can and will become living soil over a period of time and should be nurtured as such.
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I already removed the post. Some jerk wants to guy me names homophobic names. Eff that.
I NEVER assumed the lack of worms in your media, but I wrote this for the grow store crowd. You don't need my help, they need our help. And thank you kindly for your mature and thoughtful response.
Am I missing something? What is this TM stuff?
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a well place joke. are we not allowed to joke outside the dude thread?
Even more confused.
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Follow me then. I posted that "roots-soil-fertilizer food web" article I wrote. The trolls showed up as usual, homophobic comments were included for good taste. So I removed the original post and left the pict. Why is rednick not banned for his homophobic comment?
Sorry to CTGuy, you're the man as always, yes I wrote that. It's a rough draft of sorts.
Mad, you are false in saying that there is either a soil food web, as you understand it, or none at all. It's CTGuy, the CCs, MM, and few others that I was looking for feedback. Put down the haterade and listen up, MM had something good to say and asked me to start this thread.
err... no, I said you are either growing with a soil food we supporting your plants, or you aren
If you sling bottles, you still have critters. But they are not supporting the plant, because you are feeding it directly (or a bit of each).
What I literally said was
Remember, the point of your article was that somehow when you move inside you can't have decomposers, but that people who sling bottles inside near-sterile gardens should get to say "food web" in some way.
In my garden, I can feed the soil with unprocessed leaves, and we could then trace the path of that energy through the food web. This happens fast enough to support the plant with barely any intrvention. I have an actual soil food web, yes, but just barely.
If you want to rewrite it, stick to facts and reasonable opinions.
Even miracle gro users have a food chain in their medium. Someone has to eat the urea. I have comments posted somewhere last year about this very thing, and it's not the first time I discuss this with MM.
The question is, is it a food web. In other words, does it cycle nutrients around ad infinitum as long as light energy reaches the system? Or are all the nutrients being added in available or near-available form each time they are needed?
Can it eat actual food, in other words, or does it have to use a feeding tube?
Edit: maybe you are trying to say that there is nutrient cycling going on even without a food web? I can agree to that. The chem guys don't realize they also rely on bacteria.
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Me too......
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I think what you really need to do is get your hands dirty with living soil and that will take you into another realm of thinking when it comes to what soil mixes and cannabis can do.
After you witness the processes and learn to read the life forms as indicators and such,things begin to appear very differently from the hydro-store way.
Go through a few cycles with recycled organic living soil and everything changes. I have no clue where my ph meter is....and that's a blessing.
I don't see much point in continuing with this book thing if it's not something that you feel validates what you really want to do.
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MM this is the answer to your question.
Why was this thread deleted.
When I seen this thread yesterday it contained no information and I seen no offensive posting that decarb mentioned.
I do not know what went on but I will not let it continue as it is.
He only wishes to engage certain people in debate not any member as far as I can see.
I am glad the you MM have restarted this discussion.
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Why was this thread deleted.
When I seen this thread yesterday it contained no information and I seen no offensive posting that decarb mentioned.
I do not know what went on but I will not let it continue as it is.
He only wishes to engage certain people in debate not any member as far as I can see.
I am glad the you MM have restarted this discussion.
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