Prepaid Legal or Lawyer on Retainer?

[AGBeer]

I have been seriously considering one of these 'prepaid legal services' for me and my family for one of those 'whatifs' that seem to inconveniently present themselves throughout life.

Of course when you NEED a lawyer, a cold call is gonna cost you $$$ of you dont already have one on retainer.

Does anyone here have the prepaid legal services? Not necessarily for anything in particular, but for that 'whatif' or even the convenience of having someone who can do your wills and other everyday legal shit (i.e. civil crap, trusts/deeds etc)

 

[medicalgreen]

Prepaid Legal is a Multi Level marketing company. A lawyer on retainer is not a bad idea. Better yet, learn a little law and represent yourself. Saves a fortune.

 

[resinryder]

Prepaid legal services can save you a bit on ordinary run of the mill stuff. They will not represent you if you are involved in any illegal activity.
Lawyer on retainer can take care of most any need you have but will probably cost you more.

 

[headiez247]

Prepaid Legal is a Multi Level marketing company. A lawyer on retainer is not a bad idea. Better yet, learn a little law and represent yourself. Saves a fortune.

fuck that.

if your in serious legal trouble that last thing you wanna do is represent yourself. People who do this are kidding themselves.

There is a reason you have to go to school for years to become a lawyer and there's a reason lawyers are rats, they get shit done and it costs money.

Forget prepaid legal, get a lawyer on retainer. Its one of the smartest things you can do for you and your families safety.

 

[medicalgreen]

fuck that.

if your in serious legal trouble that last thing you wanna do is represent yourself. People who do this are kidding themselves.

There is a reason you have to go to school for years to become a lawyer and there's a reason lawyers are rats, they get shit done and it costs money.

Forget prepaid legal, get a lawyer on retainer. Its one of the smartest things you can do for you and your families safety.

I don't think discouraging freedom is a bright idea. Sorry.
Lawyers represent the Crown. Lawyers working for the British Accredited Registry (BAR) are in the same exact bed as the judge and DA. Yes, some lawyers are nice and good people, but they are never your friend, as they live, sleep, eat, and fuck, in the enemy's tent.

Be careful telling people to get a lawyer. That's like telling people you cannot tame a lion, or a dog, even. Law is not beyond our ability to grasp, and handle. It may be beyond yours though.

 

[303hydro]

Dude, it's like you are asking: " Should I buy a red wagon or a brand new GMC Diesel Truck?"

 

[humble1]

On retainer is for big stuff, stuff that could put you away. It is both smart and cost effective if you're on that path. Small stuff can generally be handled by yourself, sometimes with the aid of a public notary. So pay the retainer if you need it and educate yourself anyway. Representation is only valuable if you truly need it.

 

[supermanlives]

any person that defends himself in court has a fool for a client

 

[The Bulk]

Prepaid Legal is a Multi Level marketing company. A lawyer on retainer is not a bad idea. Better yet, learn a little law and represent yourself. Saves a fortune.

I think this is actually a good idea.You could connect with the jury better,and tell them what we all/most already know about pot.Its harmless and the marijuana law is a violation of our constitutional rights.

 

[medicalgreen]

I think this is actually a good idea.You could connect with the jury better,and tell them what we all/most already know about pot.Its harmless and the marijuana law is a violation of our constitutional rights.

Lawyers are barred from stepping outside the rules of court imposed on them by the judge, usually. A pro se self representing person has much more leeway.

 

[twistedthreads]

I had Prepaid legal for years.. The first time I really needed them I got the run around and no help..

 

[headiez247]

I don't think discouraging freedom is a bright idea. Sorry.
Lawyers represent the Crown. Lawyers working for the British Accredited Registry (BAR) are in the same exact bed as the judge and DA. Yes, some lawyers are nice and good people, but they are never your friend, as they live, sleep, eat, and fuck, in the enemy's tent.

Be careful telling people to get a lawyer. That's like telling people you cannot tame a lion, or a dog, even. Law is not beyond our ability to grasp, and handle. It may be beyond yours though.

I was referring to USA, don't really give a fuck about the "crown", but even there, if you don't think there are high priced lawyers that hook u up, ur wrong.

I think this is actually a good idea.You could connect with the jury better,and tell them what we all/most already know about pot.Its harmless and the marijuana law is a violation of our constitutional rights.

Jury couldn't give a shit whether you are repping yourself or not. Also saying that marijuana law is a violation of your constitutional rights ain't gonna go very far in court.

Lawyers are barred from stepping outside the rules of court imposed on them by the judge, usually. A pro se self representing person has much more leeway.

You clearly haven't dealt with any of the high priced and very shady lawyers. Money buys anything.

I really hope u guys never get caught because your gonna get some reality slapped in your face when you try to rep yourself over a pot grow.

In fact many times a judge will strongly suggest that you get a public defender. Repping yourself just slow the process down and they have to dumb everything down for you because you don't even know the standard operating procedures of a trial. You will get no sympathy for repping yourself and you will lose your case.

Trust me, if I thought or knew that it was a legit way to go, I would be all for it. In some VERY select instances it works, for tiny tiny misdemeanor things where you literally have to go in and state what happened.

But if you get busted on something as complicated as growing weed in a state where the laws are grey and shit, you repping yourself will do nothing but hurt your case, I promise.

If you needed surgery and u could get the best doc for $20k or you could have this amateur do it for free, but he swears he did a lot of research, would you do it?

Doctor only goes to school for 4 more years then a lawyer does...

 

[The Bulk]

What is a lawyer going to say that you cant to get you out of it?

 

[supermanlives]

lots of folks with not much experience in courtrooms here. get a lawyer if you want to have best possible outcome.

 

[medicalgreen]

I was referring to USA, don't really give a fuck about the "crown", but even there, if you don't think there are high priced lawyers that hook u up, ur wrong.



Jury couldn't give a shit whether you are repping yourself or not. Also saying that marijuana law is a violation of your constitutional rights ain't gonna go very far in court.



You clearly haven't dealt with any of the high priced and very shady lawyers. Money buys anything.

I really hope u guys never get caught because your gonna get some reality slapped in your face when you try to rep yourself over a pot grow.

In fact many times a judge will strongly suggest that you get a public defender. Repping yourself just slow the process down and they have to dumb everything down for you because you don't even know the standard operating procedures of a trial. You will get no sympathy for repping yourself and you will lose your case.

Trust me, if I thought or knew that it was a legit way to go, I would be all for it. In some VERY select instances it works, for tiny tiny misdemeanor things where you literally have to go in and state what happened.

But if you get busted on something as complicated as growing weed in a state where the laws are grey and shit, you repping yourself will do nothing but hurt your case, I promise.

If you needed surgery and u could get the best doc for $20k or you could have this amateur do it for free, but he swears he did a lot of research, would you do it?

Doctor only goes to school for 4 more years then a lawyer does...

I don't cower down to corporations. I represent myself, and have in pot cases, in the past.

BTW, the Bar, or British Accredited Registry is the USA organization YOUR lawyer belongs to. He works for Great Britain, not you!

As a matter of fact, headiez247, YOU personally, are referred to as a "ward of the court" "infant" or "person of unsound Mind".

Because according to American Jurisprudence, anyone who hires a lawyer is considered incompetent. You will find the exact definition of yourself, in that book, and it says you are a "ward of the court", "infant" or "person of unsound mind".

Now, do I have to repeat myself, again?

 

[Mukind]

I dont have any experience growing bud, but i have had more than my share of legal troubles and let me say getting a competent lawyer has ALWAYS served me well. When you come to court and speak with the prosecutor it is ALWAYS beneficial to have someone well known in the court to represent you. My lawyer has gotten 8 murder charges dropped in a relatively small community and is known as a trial lawyer. She commands respect from my local prosecutors and have gotten a few excellent plea bargains out of them because they didn't want to risk taking to me trial with her as my attorney. Had i represented my self i probably would be sitting in jail right now because i took my chances on a trial and lost. As for having a lawyer on retainer I don't think this is necessary unless you need legal advice, a safe adress, or some other abuse of attorney/client privilege.

Sorry, kinda got off topic first post felt like i should contribute where i can

 

[The Bulk]

I dont have any experience growing bud, but i have had more than my share of legal troubles and let me say getting a competent lawyer has ALWAYS served me well. When you come to court and speak with the prosecutor it is ALWAYS beneficial to have someone well known in the court to represent you. My lawyer has gotten 8 murder charges dropped in a relatively small community and is known as a trial lawyer. She commands respect from my local prosecutors and have gotten a few excellent plea bargains out of them because they didn't want to risk taking to me trial with her as my attorney. Had i represented my self i probably would be sitting in jail right now because i took my chances on a trial and lost. As for having a lawyer on retainer I don't think this is necessary unless you need legal advice, a safe adress, or some other abuse of attorney/client privilege.

Sorry, kinda got off topic first post felt like i should contribute where i can

We are not talking about murder or assault,this about pot.Where there is no victims and usually no complaining witness.I think you could get a sympathetic jury that will think the marijuana law is ridicules,and all you need is to convince one juror for a mistrial.

 

[Mukind]

We are not talking about murder or assault,this about pot.Where there is no victims and usually no complaining witness.I think you could get a sympathetic jury that will think the marijuana law is ridicules,and all you need is to convince one juror for a mistrial.

Well i dont live in a med state and in the vast majority of states the penalties for growing and selling cannabis are extremely high, and can land you a few years to a life time in prison if your not careful. Possession/cultivation cases are almost a lock for prosecutors because there is an abundance of physical evidence to support their allegations, and if you ever want that evidence to be thrown out you will most certainly need a lawyer to file the proper motions. I love to gamble but taking a serious felony charge to trial is like playing dice with your life, don't do it unless you having nothing left to lose.

(To clarify I'm not running around committing violent crimes but i do some things that could put me in jail for a long time. I use a lawyer with a good reputation in trial so that the DA thinks I'm not scared to go to trial.) but really I am very scared

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Maybe you will listen to someone with a doctorate, I agree that in a perfect judicial system any competent man/woman should be able to defend himself against any charge, but the reality is our law system is vast and complex and even the best attorney doesn't know everything.

 

[Hammerhead]

I also agree get a layer a retainer. This way you can pick your lawyer and get a good one that has experience in cannabis

 

[medicalgreen]

The problem with liars...I mean lawyers, is that they tell you up front they can take care of everything and beat your case, to get your money, then they end up telling you how good of a plea bargain they got you.

If you represented yourself, the first plea offer would have been the same as the one the liar got you, and you hold off a few rounds, and then they get even better. The last thing they want is to have some hippie pothead beat them in court.

You get the same plea bargain, but sooner, have a better chance of getting an even sweeter one or the charges dropped completely, and you save money!!!