Trimming a fat scam!

[glasspackedbowl]

actually I got those 2-10% figures from hightimes where I saw the bare all story of their tornado and what they can and cant do! so unless hes bragging about what he cant do then that makes no sence. Hes runs them for a living Why say that?

glad to help as better bud for all is what I seeK!

 

[THC123]

Wow It takes my old lady and I about 2 days not even full days to hand trim a pound. This is by hand all the way down to the nug we dont smoke leaf and wont sell it.

well i did it alone and it was leafy outdoorbud and back then i removed EVERY leaf

 

[glasspackedbowl]

Wow It takes my old lady and I about 2 days not even full days to hand trim a pound. This is by hand all the way down to the nug we dont smoke leaf and wont sell it.

sounds about right to me! I use 1 gallon glass bottles and it takes 2 to make a lb and usually 1 day or less to fill a jar. Depending on what type of bud it is, how leafy, and how much of the plant is crystallized.
Another thing I noticed was that the bud that had been through the machine have a smell like fruit cocktail like they were re-moistened or tootsie rolls they use anything.

 

[glasspackedbowl]

Another thing I now know is that they use juice or light syrup, to make the bud smell fruity get it re-moistened and make it sticky again. I tryed this last night. Grabbed a huge green crack bud that was dry and has been sitting in my bed room on a table since it was harvested in november. ITs still dense smelly and over all nice just too dry. Well not any more. After a night of sitting it was a super bud.

Ok so I took apple juice(one table spoon) and fresh Cali strawberry's(1/2 of a strawberry's lower portion) and a pea sized(well 1-4 depending on what your working for) bit of sugar. Mixed them all together to create a light syrup of sorts. It need like 80%percent juice to 20%sugar. taking the mix and mixing without beating up the berry. Dunked the bud swirling it in the mix in a cup and blew it dry after a 5 sec bath. set it down it got spongeE after 15 minutes. Then I left it sitting out all night and this morning it was moist and good to go. It burnt all the way down no harsh effects and actually i disliked the bud before(from the dryness) this and now liked it. The worst part is I really couldnt tell except for that tell tail sign of the smell of a generic fruity odor.​

 

[AmeriSkunk]

umm... heres a trick I learned from some schwagg dealers... You can re-moisten your buds without screwing up the flavor this way. Its very simple, basically boil some water in a large pot, turn off the flame, sit a metal strainer on the pot, add your weed to the strainer, cover with a piece of paper, espn magazine or something works for me. this works with large buds even or to uncompress hard compressed very dry weed.
it also works very well to break apart slightly packed "bricks" if you will of frosted nugs without shearing off all the dry gland heads. so the weed stays as pretty and as frosted as it ws before the compression.

its very important not to let the buds steam for longer than 45secs or so, thats to add moisture to make the buds smokeable again. takes even less time to re-fluff a moist brick, and to reduce gland head breakage you need to do it manually with an open top, trichs are like velcro if theres enough of them, you will need to pull them apart

also dont get the water to a rolling boil, thats too hot and it can make the buds temporarily smell like steamed broccoli or something like that for two or three days. But the normal smell does come back.

you could possible add flavor this way, would probably be very even, very easy to do. this would be for my personal uses of course.

Have fun

 

[Lazyman]

The way I was taught to rehydrate overdried buds is to put the buds into a sealed container, then put a cup or butter tub inside that, filled with fresh fan leaves. Stir both once daily, and change the leaves when they get too dry. Takes a couple days but the end result is excellent, no harm whatsoever and the flavor is unaffected, just improves the natural taste to where it was supposed to be.

 

[Rednick]

Just get a solo cup, put it in the bin with a 'moistened' piece of paper towel inside.
Raises humidity, and doesn't seem to affect shit.
But this is talking about vine-dry buds, not bag dry.

 

[bs0]

I have trimmed 15 lbs and it took about 2 months of 3 or less hours a day of trimming for 2 people!

360 man hours? ... Damn.

This thread was started on the premise that trimming machines are designed to 'suck away your trichomes'. And that a machine tumbling the fresh bud around somehow is worse than hand-trimming. (I would venture a guess that fingers themselves are more adherent to the trichomes than properly cleaned metal.)

Many people have stepped up to explain how the machines work and how they are a: not designed to suck away your trichomes, and b: probably touch each bud less than a human trimmer.

also:
people have explained how the ratio of external trichomes to internal trichomes is very low, probably close to 1:500, which means that even if your initial statement were true and all trichomes are stripped off the surface, the potency (if it only lies within the trichomes) would be affected by like 0.2%.


Your initial post is based on fear and not reality. If you think your dealer is screening the resin off your pot get a new dealer, don't blame a machine you don't understand.
.

 

[glasspackedbowl]

thats just a bunch of bs. I dont have a dealer I grow my own and visit a dispensary maybe once a month. I know how those machine work. I have seen one in person and have read many articles and did as much research of venders of said products as possible.

The trend is about what that machine does and who is getting exposed to if even if they hadn't even heard of the damn thing!

Yes cutting the fans leafs and tumbling buds does reduce quality far more then any of you can imagine. If you use one, you dont know what the bud would be if it werent machine trimmed. Since you had been using it for so long your tollerence had readjusted and for me that bud isnt potent enough. I use to catch a sweat off of potent bud but that only happens when I get bud from people I know and not those big clubs or grow ops. I think large grows for profit need to go. They are ruining the marijuana is the US. With all these fake seed growers and people using one plant calling it another. There isnt any real true seed from IBL strains out there left.

 

[Lazyman]

So because I own a trimming machine, I can't hand trim anymore? That's ridiculous. I have not only compared buds myself (who wouldn't?) but shown them to many others. The consensus is: Machined weed looks just as good as hand trimmed, since a lot of it IS hand trimmed at the end.

Nobody runs dry weed through these things, that would be retarded. Wet weed doesn't have dry brittle trichomes, and no more resin collects on my machine than does on my fingers and scissors.

Some strains grow nice neat golf balls that the trimmer cleans up in 2 minutes. Slightly chunkier strains need 3 minutes and still need a quick touch-up with scissors. Some really chunky/calyxed strains can't go into the trimmer at all, except the smallest nugs which end up in my head stash anyway.

The point is, bad trimming is bad trimming. Don't blame the machine, blame the operator. Do pencils cause spelling mistakes?

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

The rise of these machines is due to the price drop in cali. they dont wanna pay trimmers anymore cause they cant get 3500 a pack when they sell in bulk anymore.

 

[bs0]

And I just ordered a nice new trimming machine, as of about 5 min ago

 

[soil margin]

Well if you're trying to make money then you gotta do what you gotta do.

Personally, I'm not smoking on anything that wasn't trimmed and MANICURED by hand.

I don't like smoking leaves or leftover pieces of leaves that machines never seem to catch.

 

[The Revolution]

The trim and cure is one of the most important steps for my grows. Just as important as planting that, and raising with minimal stress. I hand trim all of my buds, very careful not to damage or rough them. First step is plucking the large sun leaves, I snip any protruding leaves atthe stem, and entire branches are hung to dry for 10-15 days... a more thorough trim with thin bladed scissors, and than into the mason jars. The first few days they are burped opened for slightly shorted periods of time over the course of a few days. Then sealed up in the jars for atleast 30 days, before any of my bud goes out the door.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

after my last harvest i decided to need to get a trim machine.....


whats a good machine out there i dont want to buy a lemon...not concerned with speed just quality, something that wont break for a few years at least and does a nice job.

i still usually hand trim my top colas, but its the larf and popcorn that really takes my time. something that would take off all the main fans of my tops, and then run all my smaller nugs through....

it took me and my brother wayyyy to long to trim up rougly 3-4 lbs...5-6 hour days took us a whole week....he is FUCKING SLOW. i saw him take a whole minute to trim up like an 8th of popcorn buds i had to put the check on him...KEEP IT MOVIN!!

i have commercial friends who claim they can trim a full LB by themselves in 2-3 hours....their trim is never as good as mine because they dont sell to dispensaries, but still 2-3 hours is alot better than my 6-8 hours per LB..

 

[bs0]

after my last harvest i decided to need to get a trim machine.....


whats a good machine out there i dont want to buy a lemon...not concerned with speed just quality, something that wont break for a few years at least and does a nice job.

i still usually hand trim my top colas, but its the larf and popcorn that really takes my time. something that would take off all the main fans of my tops, and then run all my smaller nugs through....

it took me and my brother wayyyy to long to trim up rougly 3-4 lbs...5-6 hour days took us a whole week....he is FUCKING SLOW. i saw him take a whole minute to trim up like an 8th of popcorn buds i had to put the check on him...KEEP IT MOVIN!!

i have commercial friends who claim they can trim a full LB by themselves in 2-3 hours....their trim is never as good as mine because they dont sell to dispensaries, but still 2-3 hours is alot better than my 6-8 hours per LB..

I had been looking at the trim reaper for ages but never pulled the trigger because the videos of it made it seem like it might break... but all accounts I've heard say it's a great machine. I instead threw down on the trimpro rotor which is the same concept but appears to be built like a tank and comes with blades that can be sharpened.

Scope out youtube.

 

[Captain Ginyu]

More damaged or missing trichs = less high, simple math. That's why I trim my own.

 

[Reevage]

I know a lot of dispensaries that don't buy machine
cut flower

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

So I copied another icmag buddy and learned to use the trim machine lightly, and hand trim up for the details. Gets a great hand trim in a quarter of the time or better.

 

[Abzon]

So why is it that people love it when you trim off the sugar leaves again?

I had a friend bring over his first grow decent meds. way over trimmed looked like he got it at a local collective?