off the shelf Fertilisers/Nutes in the uk?

[Big Eggy]

Hi All,

Just wanted to get a thread going about Fertilisers/Nutes that can be brought of the shelf in the Major UK hardware stores in the UK that people have had some sucsses with for outdoor or indoor crops.

In the past i have always used a good organic soil mix with fish/blood/bone added. this has normally been more than enough for Vegative growth. if i ran into problems with N in flower i would make a tea of fish/blood/bone which was normally enough to fix the problem.

When it came to flowering i used BioCuzz Bloom stimulator and Canna PK 13/14.

How ever this year i'm on a shoe string budget and would like to use the same ferts for my grow that i'm using around the garden while keeping the MJ as organic as possable. but my challange is i can only visit garden centres for supplies.

last year i used phosphagen plant food which i think is higer in PK but still considered a balanced fert [but didn't see the grow through to the end.. but things seemed ok right up to the onset of flowering]

Right before i turn this into another 10page waffle.. what do you guys think i might have best sucsess with?

Cheers Eggy

 

[Blimey]

Recently, I've been using Westland Chicken Manure pellets.....dirt cheap, plenty powerful.

I've also been using MaxiCrop seaweed extract, again dirt cheap, and seems to make the plants happy.

That Phostrogen stuff is fine (14-10-27 plus micros).....but since I've been recycling my soil, I'm trying to minimize the mineral ferts and go more organic.

Some good suggestions for those on a tight budget in the Nutes sticky at the top of this forum.

 

[Big Eggy]

Some good suggestions for those on a tight budget in the Nutes sticky at the top of this forum.

Opps thanks for pointing that out!

Was really looking for something really low in Nitrogen?


Eggy

 

[Hazyfontazy]

http://www.thompson-morgan.com/garden-supplies/fertilisers/chempak-low-nitrogen-feed/kww2553TM

 

[Big Eggy]

Thanks Hazy..

Like it says could be a useful Autumn lawn feed aslo. I'd give you some rep if i could.
I hope my local centre stocks it.


Eggy

 

[Hazyfontazy]

most garden centres will stock chempak ,its a really good fertilizer ,,me mate uses chempak and has done for years ,,always produces quality results

 

[Big Eggy]

Just giving this a Bumb as i've got another question.

Was looking on ebay for supplies and found some cheep bat Guano (2-15-1).. perfect!

then i was looking for something high in Potassium and found this Link Soluble Grade Potassium Chloride Fertilizer 0-0-46 Wowzaz!! only need a little of that.

then i though isn't low salt mainly Potassium Chloride ... on looking i found out that Lowsalt is 66% Potassium Chloride and 33% Sodium Chloride.. given that i would only need to use a tiny amount would the sodium chloride be detrimental to the plant?

Eggy

 

[Blimey]

I'd be a bit wary of using any chloride fertilizers. Plenty of other options to get K. See how people leave their tapwater out for a couple of days...to eliminate the chloride...

Molasses/treacle/jaggery goor/panela etc etc all have a fair bit of K in there, not much N.....feed the microbes to feed the plant.

Wood ashes have plenty of K (pretty sure it's K and not P)....but raise your pH something rotten.

 

[foomar]

My budget for ferts is twenty pounds a year , use dry nutes by chempak and phostrogen , incredibly inexpensive compared to buyingwatered down litre bottles containing a teaspoon of salts.

Still useing the last of a 7 lb bag of phostrogen purchased in 1972 ish , no shelf life problems with dry salts and much less wastefull than buying expensively transported water.

Would avoid useing sodium chloride , it will add nothing usefull to the mix.

Fresh clean wood ashes are good in flower but hard to dose , very alkaline and can screw the pH with a seemingly safe amount , a teaspoon per gallon of soil as top dress watered in well is a rougth starting point.

Have seen no difference between the branded tomato fertilisers and own brand on canna , the general ferts sold at pound shops are too weak to bother with and end up costing more than the good stuff over time.

Can get mollases dirt cheap from a farm store or feed merchant , the sulphured variety is preferred as it will last years once openned , still tastes nice on toast and there is more sulpher dioxide present in most wine , no risk to plants or soil fauna at these levels.

As for compost , 60 - 80 a tonne bag for John Innes No2 mix , add 20% ish of industrial perlite from a builders merchants and recycle indefinately adding anything organically usefull that turns up.

 

[Yes_I_Am]

can mollassas go off, i never knew that.

 

[DocLeaf]

can mollassas go off, i never knew that.

If it's not sulphated then yes . there's x2 types of molasses. Personally we use honey because it keeps 100% sterile ,,, until fermented.

Hope this helps

 

[Yes_I_Am]

what happens and how do you tell its off, cheers doc it does help thankyou

 

[DocLeaf]

what happens and how do you tell its off, cheers doc it does help thankyou

Try spitting into a cup of natural cane sugar and see what happens (simple test) over the coming weeks

 

[Big Eggy]

Thanks guys will dish out some rep when i'm sat at a pc.. On my phone now and has a glitch were it gives out red rep just ask mitchconner.