As you know I live close to those 'farms'. It is not necessary as just the same quality can be attained growing them in freshwater tanks/ponds. Did you know we had the largest recorded sockeye run last fall? Put some in my freezer.
Bonemeal replacement?
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As you know I live close to those 'farms'. It is not necessary as just the same quality can be attained growing them in freshwater tanks/ponds. Did you know we had the largest recorded sockeye run last fall? Put some in my freezer.
Also, duly noted and kudos to Jay's Way (book title?). I had no problem growing cannabis with nothing but what was at hand; river dust, horse manure, decomposed plants.
organicterra
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So if using SRP as a bonemeal replacement what would be the recommended amount?
2 tbs per gallon of potting mix or so?
What about as a top dress going into flower?
2 tbs per gallon of potting mix or so?
What about as a top dress going into flower?
I used about 1 cup per wheelbarrow or 3.2 cubic feet or per 24.2 gallons or 16 tablespoons per 24.2 gallons or 1.5 tablespoons per gallon. This lasted about 5 years in live soil of a larger volume [e.g. 15 to 20 gallons] in conjunction with topdressing vermicompost, fish hydrolysate and ACT. I do not believe in the phosphorus at flowering time so cannot comment on that but don't feel it would be practical.
GoneRooty
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Care to elaborate on that? I would love to hear more about it, maybe start a new thread or something. Always interested in hearing other opinions and ideas.
descivii
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Where I live, there are farm ponds that raise carp and catfish for food. At the nicer places, the pond is located on site where people can handfeed. While I'm sure the fish get their fill of spit and other gross shit, generally I think one could safely assume that these sources of fish product could be less toxic assuming the pond is not contaminated by any ground water issues. Would that be a safe assumption?
Well I am not microbeman but I preach the same gospel sometimes.
There are some trees that start out in one kind of soil and need another type by the time they mature.
But cannabis needs the same set of options from start to finish. In my garden the plants are never deficient, but they "flush" themselves just the same. I don't give more or less phosphorous at any point, but obviously the plant is taking more or less at different times.
Therefore either the plant is in charge and is having its nutes made to order by the soil, or I am getting some really lucky random variation in nutrient availability.
I've addressed this in several threads but basically; what Mad said. If you read some of what I wrote about microbially based growing on my webpage and in this forum you'll get the gist of what I'm getting at.
GoneRooty
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After reading Mad's post, I totally understand what you mean. At first I thought you meant no phosphorous at all, as opposed to not adding additional P for the flower. But yeah, I don't add extra P for flowering, everything is in my soil from the start.
And people forget how importan P is to root formation, because we don't smoke the roots.
After reading Mad's post, I totally understand what you mean. At first I thought you meant no phosphorous at all, as opposed to not adding additional P for the flower. But yeah, I don't add extra P for flowering, everything is in my soil from the start.
If you go back and read my post again you'll see it is in response to 'topdressing going into flower'
GoneRooty
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We're not supposed to be smoking the roots? What the hell man?! Someone needs to teach me the right way, I've been smoking the roots and recycling the buds. Damn!
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CC_2U
What about buying several goldfish from a pet store and running them through a Cusinart?
They're fish, right? Fresh fish emulsion - toss in a glob of yogurt and let it sit for couple of weeks and you've got fish hydrolysate and the oceans are saved!
CC
They're fish, right? Fresh fish emulsion - toss in a glob of yogurt and let it sit for couple of weeks and you've got fish hydrolysate and the oceans are saved!
CC
GoneRooty
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Wouldn't you need quite a few goldfish? And would the ones with the bulging eyes be better? And if you used a fruit yogurt, then you could get all the benefits of the fruit too!
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CC_2U
I figured it would be easier than trying to get enough guppies rounded up.
Then there's that tool from yesteryear - the Bass-O-Matic. Long remembered and cherished by many!
Carp would be a good choice as well - enough bones in that species to give you a ton of 'P' and if you were to toss in a couple of blue gills to round out the nutrient profile you might be ready to go retail.
A couple of YouTube videos, a handful of sock-puppets and a reference 'from a famous botanist' at a New England college (probably Watsamata U) and you could be movin' and groovin' big time!
Just a thought
CC
Then there's that tool from yesteryear - the Bass-O-Matic. Long remembered and cherished by many!
Carp would be a good choice as well - enough bones in that species to give you a ton of 'P' and if you were to toss in a couple of blue gills to round out the nutrient profile you might be ready to go retail.
A couple of YouTube videos, a handful of sock-puppets and a reference 'from a famous botanist' at a New England college (probably Watsamata U) and you could be movin' and groovin' big time!
Just a thought
CC
I don't know if anyone is going to see this, as no one has posted on this in a while. But its simple http://www.sf-organics.com/ this company produces its fish fertilizers from the invasive asian carp that is decimating our rivers and lakes. I love seeing problems turned into solutions. 
