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Why has there been no major advances in HPS bulbs?
- Thread starter pokergod
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This.^^^^^ I've been using Osram Plantastar bulbs for years now, always been very happy with their performance. The Plantastar (yes, thats Plant A Star) is the first bulb engineered and constructed from the ground up specifically for growing. (The Hortilux was originally meant for something else, it's use as a grow bulb wasn't found out until later.)
German engineering FTW!
oldmanschild
New member
I put my money on these guy's
If it is true what they claim..............than they are the shit.
Finally no more same Chinese electronics and different colour bs.
can you buy these in the US?
gavita email
gavita email
They say that some of the ballast parts are made in europe and some in china under theyre direction
I asked about availability outside europe didnt get an answer.A
gavita email
I emailed Gavita and they replied !
They say that some of the ballast parts are made in europe and some in china under theyre direction
I asked about availability outside europe didnt get an answer.A
Oldmac
Member
Hey whazzup, saw your responce last week but did not have a chance to respond till now. You (& Dan) may very well be correct. I don't have access to test equipment to verify the presence of UVb, so I should not have said the 10K is safer.
I can confirm using the "transition eyewear" test (they darken) that some form of UV is present. If it does have some or even substantial UVb, really doesn't matter to me, it does what I need....to get trichomes to finish faster.
BTW, almost all grow lights hold a certian level of harm to human eyes and possibly skin with exposure.
OM
Doc420
Member
The Gavita Pro ballast with the 400v lamps is fully made in Holland.
The Gavita Digistar 230v is the budgetline from Gavita and is made in China.(Gavita quality control)
These are 2 different products.
uvb is very good for the plants actually and I think it is one of the reasons why trichomes ripen quicker under this lamp. I see the same with plasma light. HPS lights and most MH do not emit any UVB, that is filtered out by the outer glass (or, in case of a closed reflector the reflector glass). I don't see any harm in the use of HPS light for the skin actually, other than touching the lamp and burning yourself . The amounts of UVB are not that high and certainly not with HPS.
@andyo: your Iphone is made in china too. The Pro-line luminaries are awaiting approval from UL/CSA before they are available at NGW, BWGS and Humboldt Nation Distribution. They are European industrial products, adapted for hobby use. The 600W has Philips electronics, the 1000W has Gavita electronics. Their connectors in Europe are from Wieland (output) and Schurter (input IEC), for the US XR505 connectors are used. The XR505 are not allowed or available in Europe, nor are the lamp XR505 lamp cords. Gavita produces a line of hobby ballasts (the DigiStar) which is produced under their supervision in China, like most electronics of A-brand manufacturers today. Margins on this type of equipment are too small to have them made in any western country. The important issue here is the design, components used and manufacturing quality. None of the lamps that Gavita sells are made in China, they are all European horticultural lights from leading manufacturers such as Philips and GE.
Left and right you see a few test grows emerging on forums with the new Gavita equipment. In Europe 1000W was not very popular until now, growers in Europe standardize to 600W ballasts mostly. Professional horticultural growers in Holland (except some flower growers that need lower light conditions) mostly switch or have switched to 1000W double ended lamps.
. The amounts of UVB are not that high and certainly not with HPS. @andyo: your Iphone is made in china too
. The Pro-line luminaries are awaiting approval from UL/CSA before they are available at NGW, BWGS and Humboldt Nation Distribution. They are European industrial products, adapted for hobby use. The 600W has Philips electronics, the 1000W has Gavita electronics. Their connectors in Europe are from Wieland (output) and Schurter (input IEC), for the US XR505 connectors are used. The XR505 are not allowed or available in Europe, nor are the lamp XR505 lamp cords. Gavita produces a line of hobby ballasts (the DigiStar) which is produced under their supervision in China, like most electronics of A-brand manufacturers today. Margins on this type of equipment are too small to have them made in any western country. The important issue here is the design, components used and manufacturing quality. None of the lamps that Gavita sells are made in China, they are all European horticultural lights from leading manufacturers such as Philips and GE. Left and right you see a few test grows emerging on forums with the new Gavita equipment. In Europe 1000W was not very popular until now, growers in Europe standardize to 600W ballasts mostly. Professional horticultural growers in Holland (except some flower growers that need lower light conditions) mostly switch or have switched to 1000W double ended lamps.
ijim
Member
The major producers of lights know what there market share is with Cannabis growers. But they pick up and read the same newspapers as we do. Even med states are unstable in who, where and what people will we allowed to do in the near future. If California would have passed legalization then we would probably seen a bump in research and development. But growing Cannabis is still illegal by the feds and they are the ones that license, give tax breaks and provide tariffs for the large corporations. Do they risk pissing off the feds and invest millions in R&D and production? Politics and economics will always outweigh common sense.
