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habeeb

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these are some blue ryders under a lumigrow LED.

I grew these out among some DJ plants in veg. they were not optimal grown as these were a side project as my real project focus is with DJ plants.. some days they got half blue, some days forgot to turn the red up after working in the tent, hot days most the grow as you can see in the pic, sometimes full LED power, fed by eye.... these were just a mix up in growing.. lets just keep it at that

The aim was to see what can be done with autos when you have some free space in a veg light, and also what a LED can do. grown in 1 gallon pots. I fed them some bone and EJ meta K in flowering stage, along with some bio boost. that was it, the problem I ran into was that they were in to heavy a N mix ( veg mix ). there was some coloring on some leaf, and a couple calyx turning purple tips.. I believe with the right nute regimen and some cold temps, you could have fairly decent coloring.. these were ran in hot weather, so I know some colors can show with the right schedule... wet weight is 47, and 57. these were taking at 90% cloudy, %5 amber, 5% clear ( approx. )

As you can see, the tops got light bleached, so I had to pull the light up. these seeds have phenos ranging from tall to very squat ( not pictured as another set got planted later ). timing, I cant tell you as I didn't keep track.. another thing with this LED, is that the blue is so powerful, that it can keep a plant so much shorter then normal, these plants should have gotten alot taller, but the blue was on full during stretch, so i hope to see what the plants would look like with alot lower blue in stretch..

smoke report. well it hits me with some very very low paranoia for about 10 minutes, then mellows down. this is with both phenos. taste is lemon and pepper, had someone else describe it as tuscany. very mellow smoke, and low ceiling. This stuff with be turned into hash, as compared to LR2, LR2 wins with me. if you want a more mellowed down plant pick the blue streak. induced mild laughing sessions if you get into it.. to me, nothing special that would make me buy it again, as I'm onto explore more autos..

well hope you enjoy, let me know if I can answer anything



some other blue ryders started later under same lumigrow:
 
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mitch_connor

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small but chunky :)

Are you going to continue putting some AF's in your veg area for some early smoke?
 

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well, its never a bad thing to run autos for personal/extra smoke on the side..:smoke:
have you concidered trying a bigger yielding auto strain?
 
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nice fatty's there. not bad for the little effort you put in
 

habeeb

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thanks for the comments all. I and pretty new to AF. grew some LR2 once, and that's my knowledge on them..

small but chunky :)

Are you going to continue putting some AF's in your veg area for some early smoke?

mitch, I do see them in there all the time in the future. I don't run fully loaded veg rooms usually, as I start up big, then once you have some females, it's only popping more to try and find a better mother. and I have started on bonsai mom's, so one of my veg areas just opened up big time... so given the new place, and my veg areas, I see autos in my life as far as I can think. the ability that they flower on any light makes it a perfect addition to anyone that has one pot space open or a open room, and side lighting.. it seems so far a fun experiment seeing all the different phenos, and thinking I should have kept a male to hit that pheno or this one...

well, its never a bad thing to run autos for personal/extra smoke on the side..:smoke:
have you concidered trying a bigger yielding auto strain?

sandnut, I would love some recommendations on bigger yielding auto's. I don't know much on the autoflower companies. I bought some DP strains that are flowering out now ( polar light 2, and tundra ) , I made a thread about it and seemed people didn't like DP.. so would love some other strain / companies to look into

nice fatty's there. not bad for the little effort you put in

thank you AG, not to bad if I say so myself.
 

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Yeh why not, if it's vacant space, You may aswell make use of it.
If you are just popping a few AF beans here and there then maybe keep a male about when you find a strain well suited to your setup.

I don't have any first hand experience with LED, but from the AF's i've grown, it seems it's more dependant on the genes how big they will get, rather than the light spectrum they get.

Are you sowing direct into the 1 gallon, or transplanting them at sex?
I've have never really percieved Blue Ryder (Blue streak) to be a small auto, but you may have got micro phenos but it could be another factor preventing them getting big..?
 

habeeb

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^ mitch,

transplanting at sex, in roughly the size of solo cups, little smaller..

as for the phones, and big factor.. I will say this again, I believe it to be the intense blue in the led's. from experience I am growing DJ plants. in the past under a MH, or CMH, or floro tube, these plants stretch, that's a DJ trait. now for flo, one of his biggest stretchers, I can get it under the LED, and be at the 9th node in a 6 inch plant!!! that is amazing!! I can create such a bushy dense plant in veg with these LED's. so dense with side branching that I fear mold, and have cut branches to clear some air space though the plant..

you should see some LR2 I have, this nugget of a flowering plant is only 3 inches tall..

I cannot say fully as I have not growing autos for long, and these LED's are new, but I feel the blue in the LED is super powerful if you want it to be, and thus making a super compact plant.. who knows though as I'm no pro..
 

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I have never grown with LED so I can't really comment accurately on how it will effect the AF's..

But under MH/Hps it seems to affect the final height for me very little, it seems to just be plant dependant + soil volume and light power as to how big they get.

If you see a continuation of the Super compacted AF's under your light, I would suggest you plant more to compensate, you could have a 'blanket' of little buds in a tub for example

cheers, mitch
 
Hey mitch connor ,Im gonna take a guess and say your using an aircooled hood(s).Well then the air cooled hoods heat tempered glass lens is absorbing all the enhanced spectrum of your top of the line lamp either MH/HPS.Well that's why the new adjust a wings are so popular you can increase potentcy by either using a adjust a wing or you can simply remove the lens in your air cooled hood,otherwise don't worry about getting a hortilux or sunbeam cause its just gonna work the same as the rest cause of your glass lens, rather focus on lumens output and not enhancement.
 

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No man sorry, Current grows have been with a Parabolic and Adjustawing, have used a Air cooled hood in the past though and never saw a reduction in plant height or potency.
 

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Habeeb, nice little trees man :canabis:

You do have to be careful with the Lumigrows they surely will bleach tops if too close, I never put them closer than about a foot off the plant tops otherwise the 5 watt LED's are just too intense at that short of a distance and the spectrums don't really get enough space to mix properly. Were you using the half size one or full sized 330 watt model?

Also, your input on the bushy compact growth is spot on I had 12" plants with literally a dozen internodes on them keeping the blue on full blast during veg. They do seem to stretch out though nicely in flower as the lights do have a very healthy amount of the 660 nm red spectrum which is vital for fruiting/flowering and promotes that bud stretch that is crucial for decent yields. You will find that by raising the lights up a bit you can stretch them out more in early flower and this helps to increase the yields overall. Thanks for posting this man, good to see other people checking out new lighting technology. :good:

When you get that baby dialed-in you are going to amaze yourself with your results :canabis:
 

kobaia

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Nice grow habeeb. Could you tell me what is LED lamp you use? I mean how many LED's and what wattage ?
I saw 160W led lamp for growing plants, 30 diods or so 5W each, ready and set-up but I wonder how does it compare to 150W sodium lamp for plants ? Cause it's really expensive comparing to other lighting sources.
 

habeeb

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^ kobaia,

I'm using the lumigrow 330 ES. comparing them against HPS, I cannot say, sorry.
 

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looking good habeeb, i'm running the lil es 165 model myself in flower, good info here, and thanks to sotf420 for mentioning how high he keeps his off the canopy, i have yet to have bleaching but have kept it about 1 foot away, till now, i have a plant about 5" away and so far no bleaching, yet...(the lack of heat with this led totally screwed me up in the beginning, low temps and i had major mold issues, sorted now though)
 
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