Crack your finest jars or bottles S-10 is DEAD

[SirTOKESalot]

And pray tell, who told you that S=10 is dead, and what makes you think that the Neocons wont form a majority? That chick at starbucks with the braided eyebrows? LOL
Power follows money, and the two richest provinces Alberta and Saskatchewan are Conservative with B.C. also Conservative right behind licking there nuts. LOL {by the way all three are oil producers, bought any gas lately?} Sorry I left out Newfoundland, which is also Con, and a petroleum producer.

Dont worrie your little self there, Sk is very NDP/LIB friendly this year, driving arownd town I can tell it sure is not looking good for Mr harper

Everyone i have talked too is Going Lib, Seems the only way to get Harper out.

And btw, Were not that rich.... We just know how to save well.

 

[mithra]

Originally Posted by amrad
And pray tell, who told you that S=10 is dead, and what makes you think that the Neocons wont form a majority? That chick at starbucks with the braided eyebrows? LOL
Power follows money, and the two richest provinces Alberta and Saskatchewan are Conservative with B.C. also Conservative right behind licking there nuts. LOL {by the way all three are oil producers, bought any gas lately?} Sorry I left out Newfoundland, which is also Con, and a petroleum producer.
Ha ha I think karma girl banned his ass. She aint into politics, I guess.

 

[bobthegrower]

Who called the may election on 21st Feb......eh?

Lets see if my 2nd prediction occurs

 

[cannarelief]

http://whyprohibition.ca/blogs/jaco...s-gives-government-90-days-fix-charter-issues


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 12, 2011
COURT STRIKES DOWN MARIJUANA LAWS, GIVES GOVERNMENT 90 DAYS TO FIX CHARTER ISSUES

Click here to read the decision

Today in R v. Mernagh the Ontario Superior Court of Justice found the entire regulatory scheme governing medical marijuana (the Marihuana Medical Access Regulations) to be invalid. As a result sections 4 (prohibiting possession) and 7 (prohibiting production) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act were stricken. The government has been given 90 days to fill the legislative void or it will become legal to possess and produce marijuana.

The basis for the decision was that the government's controversial decision making allopathic physicians the only gatekeepers to patient access created a scheme that was too restrictive and made it too difficult for Canadians to lawfully acquire the medicine. In the Court's words "...it is long past time for the government to provide the medical access to marihuana that was directed by the Parker court over ten years ago..." Parker was a 2000 decision of the Ontario Court of Appeal that gave rise to the MMAR scheme.

"Complaints about the doctor-as-gatekeeper role, from patients and physicians, have been a constant feature of this flawed system," said Kirk Tousaw, the Foundation's Executive Director and a BC lawyer that successfully argued R v. Beren, in which the BC Supreme Court found certain supply-side aspects of the scheme to violate the Charter. "This decision represents a huge step forward for critically and chronically ill Canadians that want to access this safe and effective medicine without being turned into criminals for doing so."

Jacob Hunter, the Foundation's Policy Director and an authorized medical cannabis consumer, also hailed the decision: "I know how hard it has been to find a supportive physician. There are a million medical cannabis consumers in Canada and, in ten years, less than 10,000 have been able to become legal. That just isn't right."

The Foundation urges the upcoming new government of Canada to work with patients, producers and distributors of medical cannabis over the next 90 days to craft a legislative model that works. "Who knows," speculated Tousaw, "the government could always choose not to re-legislate, as did with the abortions laws after the Morgentaler decision, and finally put an end to the harms being caused by marijuana prohibition. "

The Foundation congratulates Mr. Mernagh and counsel Paul Lewin for their outstanding efforts and salutes all those that assisted in the case.

Contacts
Kirk Tousaw
Jacob Hunter

 

[KanadianKronik]

seeing as they have 90 days this will not go threw. harper once said he would never let marijuana get legalized. he reason for it was because it would make it to easy to get into kids hands. i personally think its bull. the way i look at it is that if it is legalized it would be sold eather threw stores the same as smokes, or threw goverment run store's just like liquor. so in the end the only way a kid could get there hands on it would be there a dealer.... they are going to get it from that same dealer legal or not! but if it were legal, atleast there is a good chance of it not being messed with. in the way of if you by a gram or a joint already rolled who knows where it came from or what could have been added. if you by the same gram or joint rolled and sealed in its orignal package, then you know its not been handled. what it comes down to is, keeping your stuff up and teaching your kids.
i dont know i just dont like harper or his excuses.
-KK

 

[chongsbuddy]

so what are the ontario laws for possession and/or trafficking now?how many plants for instant prison sentance?last i heard 5 plants was gauranteed 6 months in prison.could someone please explain the current laws?

 

[LeenieBean]

there currently is no mandatory minimum sentence in Ontario, and no set plant limit in lower scales (not sure on big operations myself) The court system and judge determine much of what happens in an individual defendants case. Situations obviously worsen when there is evidence of trafficking.

 

[fuzzywuzzy]

Now that the Conservatives have a majority, expect this bill to be pushed through in the next 100 days.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliam...0&source=library_prb&Parl=40&Ses=3&Language=E

Mandatory minimum punishments will also be introduced for the production of cannabis (marihuana), with their length depending upon the number of marihuana plants produced. The minimum penalty is six months where the number of plants produced is fewer than 201 and more than five and the production is for the purpose of trafficking, while the minimum penalty is nine months where the number of plants produced is fewer than 201, the production is for the purpose of trafficking, and any of the health and safety factors also apply.

The mandatory minimum punishment is increased to three years if any of the health and safety factors listed in new section 7(3) apply. These health and safety factors are:

- the offender used real property that belongs to a third party to commit the offence;
- the production constituted a potential security, health or safety hazard to persons under the age of 18 years who were in the location where the offence was committed or in the immediate area;
- the production constituted a potential public safety hazard in a residential area; or
- the accused placed or set a trap that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to another person in the location where the offence was committed.

The way I interpret this is if you grow on rented property or break any other of these heath and safety factors, they can charge you with 3 year mandatory and don't have to prove whether you were trafficking or not.

I do not trust the legal system or politics one bit. Looks like everyone better downgrade to 3-4 plant monsters and have the peace of mind.

Stay safe.

 

[SirTOKESalot]

Fuzzy... Thats Very sad. But honestly, There will be this law when have the cops in Canada really done bust on Small shows? I grow a few more then 5 and I sleep pretty easy.

With or without this law, If you dont sell and You keeper to a small size the chance of getting busted is pretty low.

 

[2cents]

only douche bags support prohibition

 

[fuzzywuzzy]

That's true. If you don't sell, tell, or smell, then you are 99.999999999999% likely to never be caught.

But, there are those who rely on it as a supplemental income to disability, and want the peace of mind of knowing that if they DO get caught they won't have to go to JAIL for a MANDATORY 6 MONTHS.

Mandatory solitary confinement in a general population full of criminals from all walks of life for 5 or more plants if "public safety factors are met?" NO THANKS.

This bill places a lot of innocent, non-harmful people who are growing for personal/friends/income assistance into a group, and that group is judged through the same tough-on-crime conservative legal system as everyone else.

Lets not forget the $11+ Billion that Harper "accidentally" over-budgeted for new privatized prisons. Privatizing prisons has HUGE PROFITS, and PEOPLE need to fill these prisons in order for money to be made. That's what mandatory minimums are there for.

I'm just preparing for the worst. I can't see myself doing any more larger scale operations after this, not worth the risk.

4 plants, 1000w vertical trees, 4x4 tent can get me 1.5-2lb every 3 months with proper veg/strain, which is enough money to get me and family/friends by and lets me sleep at night.

You're never 100% safe when doing this hobby. What's to say a fire wont start, or a thief crashes a car into your house, or someone tries to break in? Or.. or.. or...

Again, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Steven Harper has got your vote now.

 

[i.love.scotch]

I agree completely with you fuzzywuzzy. This whole thing is just a ploy to support a boom in the privatized prison industry up here.

Prisons are a huge industry in the US and in order for those companies to invest into the prison industry here in Canada we have to be able to supply enough prisoners to guarantee that company a profit.

The mandatory minimum sentences come in to ensure that the prisons will be full and making that profit (these companies charge the government tens of thousands of dollars a year to keep a prisoner).

Some people might be inclined to argue that if it costs the government money to keep these people in prison then the government is taking a financial hit, but really the introduction of this type of new industry into an area is seen a positive boost to the economy, creating more jobs and tax revenue. The government pays the prison companies with taxpayer dollar anyway so what do they care?

 

[chongsbuddy]

thats just disguisting!keeping prisons full to make money while we all pay for it.

 

[Closet_Grower]

ughhh I hate s-10 talk....

isn't this thing dead yet?? ohh ya we still got old Harper driving the boat. fuck I hate that guy.

Seriously since when did Canada get so backwards? where is Larry Campbell when you need him??

 

[Closet_Grower]

oh ya and those private prisons will be chocked full of us "dope smokers" cause thats all s-10 seems to be affecting, so really it will be pretty mellow i'd suppose, lol, jk.

private prisons = end of the world as we know it... seriously, its a fucked up concept to make a profit off incarceration.

slavery anyone? dont knock it till ya try it.

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Good ta Know! Nice post!

 

[KanMan]

Crime crackdown commences Tuesday

Crime crackdown commences Tuesday

Mandatory minimums was C26, C15, S10 and now omnibus justice bill

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/18/crime-crackdown-commences-tuesday
OTTAWA - The Conservative government will move swiftly to tackle crime on Canadian streets by introducing an omnibus justice bill Tuesday in Parliament.

A memo to government MPs obtained by QMI Agency on Sunday said the bill would “hold criminals more accountable, help improve the safety and security of individuals and extend greater protection to the most vulnerable members of society and victims of terrorism.”

While short on specifics, the memo quotes Statistics Canada figures showing that in 2009, one in four Canadians reported being a victim of crime, but only 31% reported their crimes to police.

One element of the bill will be called the Safe Streets and Communities Act, QMI Agency has learned.

The government has promised to introduce and pass a bundled package of justice bills in the first 100 sitting days of this Parliament.

Other measures the government is considering include keeping young offenders off the streets while they await their day in court, harsher sentences for certain crimes, eliminating pardons in some cases and giving police more powers to eavesdrop on criminals.

“By moving quickly to reintroduce comprehensive law-and-order legislation, our Conservative government is fulfilling its promise to better protect families and stand up for victims,” the memo states.

 

[Manstien]

Nice link bro...I guess it's about to begin......good luck ppl

 

[Shafto]

Scary stuff.

I wish there was as much uproar about this Canada wide as there was about the HST in BC.

Seems nobody is really paying attention any more... This is a huge deal, changing the face of Canada forever, and you can barely even find someone who knows it's happening.

 

[KanMan]

Sept. 20 / 2011
What’s Wrong With Harper’s Omnibus Crime Bill
Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
http://www.behindthenumbers.ca/2011/09/20/whats-wrong-with-harpers-omnibus-crime-bill/

Stephen Harper's mission against marijuana:
Mandatory minimum sentences will only make matters worse
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/425919

Sweeping crime bill – and costly Tory cost-cutter – revealed
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...tly-tory-cost-cutter-revealed/article2172396/