Black ash no matter how long I flush...

[el dub]

Mg doesn't burn white, imo.

Try Clearex during the flush.

lw

 

[Chili_berkster]

I can't imagine Mr D having any problems... I'm just flabbergasted.. haha with that beign said. Golden Goat is badass. There wanted to say that too. You rock MrD!
Broseppy, it's gotta be the nutes. Just recall the last time you had some white burning ash and use that formula again. Maybe the cold temps are causing uptake issues. Good luck MrD I cant stand the thought of my hero having burn problems.

 

[Harinama]

I think Dr.Dank is right, organics are harder to flush in my experience. Also, i hardly flush at all any more, and my bud is tasty and smooth with little ash. They key? Dripclean at 1/4t per gal throughout grow. It takes all the salts away from the plant.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Good luck MrD I cant stand the thought of my hero having burn problems.

haha. I had the same thoughts reading this thread!

 

[Guest423]

Try taking a nug out of your jar and setting it up on the shelf or something for a day or two, then grind it up and smoke it. See if it burns white and fluffy or still stays black and chunky.

 

[Head_Ease]

Just a theory.. but im trying something out with my coco... Flush with a higher PH than what you feed it. I figure it will lock out other micro nutes as well as the N. Im trying it on a couple right now and will see if it does anything

 

[Harinama]

i agree that organics are tougher to flush and stick around in the coco longer.

Highly recommend dripclean, it will remove the salts using only 1ml/gal.

Best answer for your health, however, is to vape not smoke cannabis, and then you do not have to worry about ash! (or associated copd/lung issues after long-term smoking like i had).

 

[Space Case]

I have noticed this about a few friend's coco buds. Very nice full flavor, but burns black, even with a super long flush. They also feed heavy organics in their coco. I have been told when feeding organics in coco you need to flush with Hygrozyme. I am on my first coco grow right now and plan on at least 1 week flush with Drip Clean + Hygrozyme at full strength, and then 1 week of pure water.

 

[Overthinker]

General guideline:

Mg gives you solid white ash. Lack of Mg will give a darker grey.

Ca gives firmness of the ash. Lower Ca levels give you a flaky ash.

Different Mg:Ca gives different shades and textures. Other minerals and elements play a part too, of course. Having too much of them gives ash a darker color, but even then the smoke can taste good...at least in my experience. On the flip side, I've had super clean burning bowls that flaked to nothing and still tasted absolutely terrible.

is known science, dont know why everyone is saying you are overfed/underflushed. You said your self you flushed to the point of seeing deficiecies.

my .02 try flushing 1 plant with a mild calmag or epsoms... just as a test?

good luck

 

[AfroSheep]

I would defineately water more frequently in general, from my experience i left it for like 2-3 days and it started getting a few lockout probs, started watering everyday, and occasionally twice a day.
i also find the coco holds nutes quite alot ive been flushing it with plane phed water every fortnight or so for a day or 2 seems to really brighten up the plants thats for sure,

Peace afro.

 

[MrDank]

my conclusion is it is the Age Old Organics that cause my buds to not burn well, as well as coco's tendency to hold nutes for longer

I have gone back to using Pro-Mix and I am also cutting the Age Old Bloom out at day 20-30. The 5-10-5 NPK ratio combined with some of the N being water insoluable was giving my plants too much N during the end of flower. While my plants were fading to a nice yellow, I think it was the mg that was being flushed out and not the N, because my bottom leaves would still be green and the middle leaves were the first to yellow. N is a mobile nutrient, and flushing the N out of your plants will cause the bottom leaves to yellow first

my joints stay lit no problem, they burn evenly, and the ash is white

thanks everybody for your input

 

[homebrew420]

Wow this is a very interesting thread, happy I read it. I am planning to do a run making a coco supersoil in effect. I have heard this is not an issue and works well. After reading this I will make sure I use some kind of flushing agent. Good advice. Mr. Dank I am a bit surprised that you were running into challenges with the nutes you were using. I have heard soo many good things about Age Old.

thanks everyone involed here.

Peace

 

[Space Case]

I'm honing my ProMix skills myself at the moment, but I don't want to let the coco flush problem defeat me!

 

[Justin_Credible]

PH

PH

My product won't burn clean or stay lit. It is very flavorful and smooth, it just won't stay lit or burn to fluffy white ash

I use Canna coco, and Age Old Organics and Earth Juice products for ferts. I veg in 1-gallon containers, and flower in 3 gallon containers. I feed at low doses every time I water. I usually water every 2-3 days. I let my pots get 50% dry before I water again, and I always have plenty of runoff.

I have tried flushig for up to 24 days, but I usually keep it at 21 days. My plants are always very lush and happy and fade out very nicely as I flush. I run 10-15 gallons of water through each container until the ppm's are almost equal to the water. My water is 90 ppm's, and the runoff starts out at around 500 ppm's and by the time I am done leaching the coco, the ppm's are down to 110.

I am beyond frustrated and would really REALLY like to figure out how to get a cleaner burning product.

I would have a very hard time switching my nutrients because they smell and taste as good as I would like.

anybody have any ideas or tips?
thank you!

I would like to get this figured out before I switch back to a peat based medium

Have read through the thread and if i missed it sorry, but it would seem that nobody including you has considered this could be from ph imbalance. Speaking of ph, in your 1st post you gave lots of info on ppm, but what is the ph when you are running the str-8 water for 2 weeks flush? Also you said only watering every 2-3 days while in flush???

 

[MrDank]

I just smoked a bowl of Face Off OG that hasn't even been cured yet, just took it down off the hanger and placed into tupperware tonite

I didn't re-light the bowl once (I smoked it down with delight as I was realizing how well it was smoking), and its nothing but a fluffy bed of light-grey ash. I am sure with a few weeks in my mason jar, it will be bright white

Back when, I never had issues with my meds burning well and I was feeding Age Old Bloom at WAY higher levels, and I never had the black ash issue. Almost makes me wonder if something has changed with Age Old?

 

[imadoofus]

flushing is a farce.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

says the person growing AK47... get with the times brah

 

[MrDank]

haha I think he is joking, hence his screen name

 

[zenoonez]

I just smoked a bowl of Face Off OG that hasn't even been cured yet, just took it down off the hanger and placed into tupperware tonite

I didn't re-light the bowl once (I smoked it down with delight as I was realizing how well it was smoking), and its nothing but a fluffy bed of light-grey ash. I am sure with a few weeks in my mason jar, it will be bright white

Back when, I never had issues with my meds burning well and I was feeding Age Old Bloom at WAY higher levels, and I never had the black ash issue. Almost makes me wonder if something has changed with Age Old?

If you got a hold on the REAL FO cut keep her close and never lose her. I know a lot of people throwing some crazy numbers around trying to pick that clone up.

 

[imadoofus]

if you BELIEVE flushing will give you smoother and better tasting buds; then you are right, and it will.