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Bunz's Cloning In Coco Tutorial

Bunz

Active member
I've been a lifelong r/w user for cloning purposes, but after reading Rez's method for cloning in coco, I decided to give it a shot. HOLY SHEEPSHIT!!! Far & away the easiest and fasted clones I've ever seen. I was able to put my last run of clones in my veg chamber under a 400 MH in just 13 days after cutting. I've tweaked his method a bit and would like to share my method.

I use 8 oz stryofoam cups (for all the treehuggers, I reuse the cups too :whiteflag:).
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Using a scratch awl, I poke holes in the cup for drainage.

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Next I fill the cups with my medium. I use Canna Coco mixed with 25% perlite.

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I water the coco w/ nutes consisting of 4 ml each canna coco a&b, 2.5 ml cal-mag plus and 2 ml GO bio root per gallon of water. Adjust PH to 5.8. PPM should be in the 450 range. Do not tamp down or compact your coco yet!

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Next using your scratch awl again, poke a hole in the coco.

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We have our donor mother plant.................Green Crack. She's been weened off nitrogen the last week or so to prepare for cloning.

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Next we prepare our cloning supplies.............about 1/4 oz of clonex in a 8 oz cup & a fresh scapel.

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Next comes the important part. Clone cutting. I get best results when cutting HUGE clones & burying them as deep as possible in the medium. The more of the stem in the medium, the less evaporation happens & the clone has a lots more area for roots to grow from. My index finger shows where I will cut the clone at.

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Here is the clone after cutting.

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Lay the clone down and remove all grow nodes and fan leaves except for the top few.

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Soak the freshly cut clone in clonex for 2-3 minutes.

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Place the clone in the hole you made earlier in the coco. Tamp down on the coco, first around the clone and then the rest of the cup. IMO it is very important to do this step as it will pack the coco around the stem and not allow the stem to dry out.

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10 minutes later we have 12 freshly cut clones and a mom that has had a serious haircut!!

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Another important step. Mist the clones heavily, once and only once. Put your tray on a heatmat and cover w/ a dome. Remove the dome after 24 hours and do not put back on. If the coco becomes dry, re water with the same nute mix above.

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Follow these instructions & you too should have rooted clones in 10 days or so. Last run was of SFV OG, which are notoriously slow rooters and I had a 100% success rate at 10 days. Here's a couple pics from the SFV OG. Pic 1 is the day I took the dome off. Pic 2 is 9 days later, all rooted.

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Bunz :D
 

gomer

Active member
Well Done.

Have you noticed a difference in results or cloning time because of room temperature and humidity?
 

Bunz

Active member
Have you noticed a difference in results or cloning time because of room temperature and humidity?

The room I keep my clones in is in the house & the temp stays about 70 degrees. Humidity stays around 40-50% during the winter also.
 

dan_kass

Active member
Very nice tutorial Bunz :)

I use straight coco (GH brick) in the 50 cell inserts that come with Rapid Rooters (gave up on them because they dry out so fast) and have had great results. I just did a side by side with rockwool and even though the wool was slightly quicker to root, the coco clones never yellowed up like the rockwool. They stayed as green as the day I cut them and took off faster when transplanted...I was also able to move them under the 1000w to start vegging them a few days sooner then the rockwool cuts.

I grow in a vertical stadium (four 6's in a 7x7x10) and flower 5" to 6" clones so I try and root in the smallest medium I can and then I move them into the small cups (5oz styro cups...I also reuse them) to veg till the roots start to circle the bottom of the cup (5 to 7 days.) Then one last transplant into 1gal bags and 5 days under the 1000w before they are flowered out.

The coco rooted clones are better then any others I've seen minus maybe aero rooted clones....but I've found that those are better suited for hydro as you can basically pre veg in the cloner. My goal of building up a dense set of roots in a small space in the least amount of time is easily attainable with coco....and for me it's pretty cheap at under $3 a brick.

I too am thankful to Rez/Grateful Head for the cloning in coco threads...I am a full on believer now. I've added coco to my Pro Mix at a 2:1 ratio with EWC and extra perlite and the roots are like nothing I've seen before....super thick and glowing white.

Take Care,
~DK
 

chemsteady

Member
yo bunz...

yo bunz...

bunz, looks like you got a nice method going there, i was just wondering about the risk of air embolisms with your cuts laying down on their sides. seems a little risky, but hey, works for you! :D

i like to put my cuts into a nice cup of water for a half hour or so before scarification and clonex. nicked that one from tom hill and raco :D

ill bet you get those roots a tad bit faster this way. peace man

~c
 

Bumble Buddy

Active member
Hey Bunz, hope you don't mind offtopic? but I'm wondering about the grills at the bottom of the drainage tray- are those grills for fluorescent fixtures? I'm wondering if you have something under them to raise them up and do you have any advice for cutting that stuff? Thanks!
 

Bunz

Active member
Hey Bunz, hope you don't mind offtopic? but I'm wondering about the grills at the bottom of the drainage tray- are those grills for fluorescent fixtures? I'm wondering if you have something under them to raise them up and do you have any advice for cutting that stuff? Thanks!

Yes they are "lighting diffusers" commonly referred to as "eggcrate." You can find it at your local Home Depot or Lowes in the lighting section. I use a set of wire cutters or "dykes" to cut them to size. It helps when watering as the container doesn't sit in the water & allows for proper drainage.
 

Bunz

Active member
bunz, looks like you got a nice method going there, i was just wondering about the risk of air embolisms with your cuts laying down on their sides. seems a little risky, but hey, works for you! :D

i like to put my cuts into a nice cup of water for a half hour or so before scarification and clonex. nicked that one from tom hill and raco :D

ill bet you get those roots a tad bit faster this way. peace man

~c

They were only laying on their side for the picture. I normally keep them upright. I will try the half hour soak next round. Thanks for the tip!!!!
 

Tropic

Member
Looks like a great method, I'll be giving it a try next round. I only have a question however, how do you know when they are rooted? I've always used transparent cups for cloning so that I could check root growth (and I'll still be doing it this time) but I was wondering how you knew they were cloned.
Thanks :joint:
 

Bunz

Active member
When the plants start to show new growth and look more like plants in veg then clones, I know they're rooted. Never takes more then 15 days, even with strains like Green Crack & SFV OG.

I've always been taught that light isn't good for roots, so that is why I don't use clear cups. I've seen plenty have success with them, but until my method breaks, I'm sticking with it.
 

dan_kass

Active member
Bunz, the transparent cups are placed inside of red or blue beer cups so light doesn't get to the roots.....but then you have to buy extra material. I gave it a try just to gauge the length of time it took for the roots to get to the bottom or outside of the cup.

But now I use a 50 cell insert in a nursery flat because I take a lot of clones in a fairly small space....I have two of these.
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Take Care,
~DK
 

greenduck

Member
thanks for the tips. with a bigger cut that you take, makes sense to just go straight to coco/perlite. seems like the rockwool(unless you used the 4inch blocks) would hold these big clones upright,correct? how do you prepare your mother plant for cutting? you mentioned tapering of the nitrogen...is a link or information for this process as well.

i just bought 10 ken's GDP... the guy uses the same method but uses soil. lots of roots. have you compared soil to coco?
 

Bunz

Active member
I just ween her nitrogen...I keep feeding supplements, but no grow. Never used soil to clone, always did r/w or sponges before this.....

I actually don't use this method anymore.............I got an EZ Cloner!!!!

However this method was effective for me for quite a while..........
 

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