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Stoner4Life

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OLYMPIA, Wash. – Several states have started reassessing their medical marijuana laws after stern warnings from the federal government that everyone from licensed growers to regulators could be subjected to prosecution.

The ominous-sounding letters from U.S. attorneys in recent weeks have directly injected the federal government back into a debate that has for years been progressing at the state level. Warnings in Washington state led Gov. Chris Gregoire to veto a proposal that would have created licensed marijuana dispensaries.

Gregoire, the chair of the National Governors Association, now says she wants to work with other states to push for changes to federal marijuana laws to resolve the legal disputes caused by what she described as prosecutors reinterpreting their own policies.

"The landscape is changing out there. They are suggesting they are not going to stand down," Gregoire said.

The Department of Justice said two years ago that it would be an inefficient use of funds to target people who are in clear compliance with state law. But U.S. attorneys have said in their recent memos that they would consider civil or criminal penalties for those who run large-scale operations — even if they are acceptable under state law.

In a letter to Gregoire, Washington state's two U.S. attorneys warned that even state employees could be subject to prosecution for their role in marijuana regulation. The letter does not specify how that would happen, but the implication is that state workers who are involved in approving and regulating the sale of an illegal drug are committing a crime.

No state workers have been charged federally for regulating medical marijuana laws, and legal experts say such a move would be extraordinary — if not unprecedented in recent history. Gregoire said she didn't want to take the chance, arguing that it would be irresponsible for her to leave her workers vulnerable.

Letters with various cautions have also gone to officials in California, Colorado, Montana and Rhode Island. Federal authorities recently conducted a series of raids at grow operations in Montana, helping push lawmakers to put stricter limits on the industry. Federal raids also targeted at least two dispensaries in Spokane on Thursday, a day before Gregoire decided to veto the proposed law.

More than a dozen states have approved the medical use of marijuana, which is not legal under federal law. About half of those states regulate medical marijuana dispensaries.

The impact of the U.S. attorneys' letters is growing. New Jersey is in the process of preparing to implement its new medical marijuana law, but Gov. Chris Christie's administration doesn't want to get operations fully up and running until it can get some clarity about the legal warnings issued in other states and how they might affect New Jersey workers and marijuana operators.

"Those letters raised serious questions about legal jeopardy," said Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak. The state's attorney general has officially asked U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for guidance.

Gregoire said she is interested in working with other governors to push for a change in federal law to reclassify medical marijuana as a Schedule 2 substance, putting it on par with addictive but accepted drugs such as morphine or oxycodone.

Justice Department officials said in 2009 that, as a general rule, prosecutors should not focus federal resources "on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana." A memo on the subject did leave open the possibility of federal prosecution even when people comply with state law, but Holder indicated that would not be policy.

"The policy is to go after those people who violate both federal and state law," Holder told reporters at the time.

The latest memos carry a more direct warning: "We maintain the authority to enforce (federal law) vigorously against individuals and organizations that participate in unlawful manufacturing and distribution activity involving marijuana, even if such activities are permitted under state law."

Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said in a statement that prosecutors aren't going to look the other way while significant drug-trafficking organizations try and shield their illegal efforts through the pretense that they are medical dispensaries.

"We will not tolerate drug traffickers who hide behind claims of compliance with state law to mask activities that are clearly illegal," she said.

The federal comments have angered supporters of medical marijuana, who had believed that the Obama administration was honoring state laws. Ezra Eickmeyer, political director for the Washington Cannabis Association, said it appears prosecutors are operating under a more aggressive policy.

"Coming in and trying to strong-arm legislatures is way over the top," Eickmeyer said. "We would have expected this sort of thing form the Bush administration, but not Obama."


I only know personally a handful of med-growers and so I'm just shooting from the hip here but here goes:

it sounds like strict compliance on the user/grower level is a must, I'd only grow for myself and spouse if applicable. this may stress out med-users that are unable to grow for themselves.

to further comply with fed regs I'd make sure to not have ANY guns on your premises while growing and also be in compliance with all taxes related to weed in your state.


hunker down & hide from the feds like 'you know who' did for nearly 10 yrs.......
 

Wiggs Dannyboy

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When will the madness end? I think I may as well get used to being a 'criminal' the rest of my life...
 

MIway

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I do believe they are going to be looking for large scale ops... that's commercial and/or networked sfh's. And some of those are doing some things...?

Caregiving in a home to max capacity... don't think this is what they are targeting. Hopefully...?


EDIT~ I suggest this from the perspective that when doing things on scale, it becomes very, very difficult to conceals one's activities. Some things are just obvious... and those things, they see. It just appears to me, that they are indeed pulling back the reigns because they see the things that are happening... much faster & much bigger than they anticipated 2 years ago. From they're entrenched positions, cities like Oakland are pushing the boundaries further than they (the Fed) foresaw. Doesn't make it correct, but my read.

And it is clear, leaving CO, that they are in a process of cleaning out the system, if you will... at a State level. Wouldn't surprise me if the special interests already know this is coming down the pike for large corporations... so this could be an action to begin cleaning the slate Federally, for those commercial enterprises that are lining the politician's pockets. Perhaps a little conspiracy-ish... but consistent w history.
 

OjoRojo420

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Repeat after me:

Underground !

If you DO know game its even better than as a sitting duck...

Do not trust these traitors of the people!

Plenty of room in Wash to just drop under the radar and have some decent life.

Ojo
 

ijim

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Six months ago we were praising Obama for relaxing the federal war on Americans. But in reality he was planning on releasing violent criminals from prison early so there is room for medical patents and those that care about them. For 30 years now investments and corporations have been the darling of government at the expense of the people. Send a message to him. Boycott the primaries.
 

NOKUY

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yeah i figured it wouldnt be long before some kind of attempted krakdown
 

kmk420kali

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Six months ago we were praising Obama for relaxing the federal war on Americans. But in reality he was planning on releasing violent criminals from prison early so there is room for medical patents and those that care about them. For 30 years now investments and corporations have been the darling of government at the expense of the people. Send a message to him. Boycott the primaries.

I have 2 issues with this--
First, can you please show some current Stats on releasing violent offenders from prison?? Because I know in Cali, they are not releasing ANY prisoners (In State Prison) early...they are reducing Prison Population through taking non violent offenders, and putting them on "Non Revocable" Parole--
Second....if everybody who has an issue with Obama, boycotts the Primaries...that only helps him...do not Boycott...simply Vote against him--:tiphat:
 
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longearedfriend

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RoachClip

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I try to explain to people having a Medical Authorization doesn't give you the legal right to get a ( get out of jail free card & avoid prosecution ) but it's merely for use as a legal defense if you ever get pinched and their has been court cases by the dozens that Federal Judges throw out and refuse to let any defense attorneys from letting their very sick clients from using that as a defense to grow their legal limit of meds and it's up to people to start calling in to our politicians and complain and use facebook, twitter & e mails as well to fight back and save our rights!!
 

mean mr.mustard

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There were always privateer moonshiners... before during and after Prohibition.

Al Capone and the BIG BOY bootleggers were the ones changing the public's stance.

If you are only going to grow for you and yours make sure seeds are available to all.

I wholeheartedly agree that there is no choice but to hide... but don't kick Anne Frank out of your attic.

We can win this, but only if we survive EN MASSE.

There are those out there that will understand these words and make cannabis available to all... as it should have been for generations.. wait... as it has been for generations!!

Here's to the revolutions... it can all begin with a seed.

:friends:
 
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cvk

if my state repeals the mj laws my prices go up 50%, lol . A win win for me and my fellow growers who have had pay cuts when the state legalized med mj. Sorry, its sad but true
 

mean mr.mustard

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A win win for commercial growers and cops everywhere.

:badday:

You certainly missed my point.

Commercial growers and cops are going to try to out-do each other.

Keep it on your block and we will win this while those clowns make it public.
 

Yes4Prop215

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gotta feel for all the dispensaries, etc...they stuck their heads out and tried to remain legal, and the recent news basically puts them all at risk...


even if the federal vs state thing gets solved...doesnt solve the IRS attack on not allowing deductions for purchases...basically a tax squeeze..
 

FunkBomb

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To have faith in government is to have faith in idiocy. Just wait until gas gets even more expensive and you'll see how unprepared we really are for "change".

-Funk
 

bentom187

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the states charge taxpayers for prison inmates,i think they count that as income for the state.
meaning inmates are money makers.
i dont think there is any fair shake in the leagle system bes to avoid it and make life livable like it was intended to be.
i wish this country could just wright our wrongs,and live in a simple prosperous scociety.
only people gonna do it is us.
 

ddrew

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Second....if everybody who has an issue with Obama, boycotts the Primaries...that only helps him...do not Boycott...simply Vote against him--:tiphat:
Stop and think for a second here, if you vote Obama out, then someone else goes in, and who would that be, Ron Paul?
Ron would be great, but doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
So that leaves us with the republican front runners, Mitt Romney, who has said publicly many times that he doesn't believe in Med MJ, or Tim Pawlenty, who vetoed MMJ in MN, and it was a bill for terminal patient use only.

You really think either of those guys is going to make the changes you want?
If you want to roll progress back to even worse then it was with bush, then yes, go ahead and vote against Obama, because that no vote is a yes vote for Mormon Mitt, and POS Pawlenty
 
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