A World On A String

[THE PABLOS]

yep,i can see it now....at this rate you are going to end up naked,covered in some herb/hash based paint,with only two tied off rattlesnake skins for water bags,and running for like 3 days solid...

Awesome picture unc.....seriously ck out the new National Geo mag....great shots of some great climbers.....on a great face.

 

[unclefishstick]

i should be in a bookstore tomorrow,will check it out...

 

[THE PABLOS]

keeping the roll

keeping the roll

I removed the two flushing Ma Kettles (casey jones X grape krush) from indoors....at the end of their indoor day cycle they went out into an OD morning. They are at day 65...I'm leaving them out in the cold temps tonight then harvesting them tomorrow.




Both partially pollinated with I-HOP Grape Krush to make Manzana Bramble. Nice stuff.

At day 50 this ChemDDIX1 is still building flowers and being hit with plenty of P......note that I'm using a hefty rock to split her canopy apart...allowing more angle and better spread of sunlight. She comes in every night....receiving around 13hrs of daylight....though I sometimes pull her in early or put her out later.



Weather....has been conflicting....cooler temps and cloud cover.....breaking to windy warmer sun....during the course of a single day.

This is the DD's corral running partner...also at day 50...a couple days into flush. The Crunge (karoline krutch X prune juice).....turning a dark shade of purple....pickable....much perfume...dense Indica flowers. I'll push her along and watch to see what she wants to do. I pull her in every night as well....same schedule as the DD.

 

[spiralofeyes]

Hell yes...incredible stuff man.You're an artist. This is one of my favorite threads on ICmag. Easily in the top three.

 

[paulo73]

I second this one

I second this one

Hell yes...incredible stuff man.You're an artist. This is one of my favorite threads on ICmag. Easily in the top three.

Word!

 

[187020]

old school indica from sssc rollin thru homies ...

old school indica from sssc rollin thru homies ...

day 46 here and she's done at 51. i've been cloning her since 1992, its the m12 skunk#1 x creeper

heavy peace to the pablos and the homies !!

the density of the buds is somewhere between white oak and concrete !!

 

[187020]

done@50 homie she's quick !!

done@50 homie she's quick !!

creeper density with a fresh cannabis smell ...

 

[THE PABLOS]

Everybody batched up together here is at day 56 and flushing

Everybody batched up together here is at day 56 and flushing

The Crunge....probably will be picked any day now....I'm drying her out. Really nice blending. Some of my best work.....as far as getting further out. Seems to hook up well anyway.



I have Cleveland Sage males in flower.....put in the "Curled Leaf" Crunge female just this morning. Bringing the Cleveland into The Crunge is part of the devolutionary process.

Querkle, ChemDKush, Grape Krush (repeatedly the binder in this nonsense), Kali-Mist, AbusiveKushHaze, and Sour Bubble.....my time spent going....doesn't matter

Ever see a real Cleveland Sage? Very rare....and grow only in a particular area. I ran down a flowering hillside of them yesterday....spring blooms.....beautiful purples...rich green leaves...I buried myself in them

ChemDDIX1.....motoring along in the OD Corral



I-HOP Grape Krush....getting MH/Fluorescent lighting.....winning big with this cross. Good stuff



I thank you all for dropping in....the pix...the kind words. I'm glad you guys are enjoying my method.

This may sound strange....with me consistently updating the thread and all....but I'm kind of distracted away from my Canna studio and the work I'm doing in there. It's kept in a cleaner state...and I spend my time in the garden...everything runs pretty smooth....but I'm not really running the show. That's how I feel....I have no idea where it is going.

Only smart boys learn to stick around in The Garden....

 

[chappie]

That I-HOP GK is amazing!!! Thats just 1000w??

 

[THE PABLOS]

That I-HOP GK is amazing!!! Thats just 1000w??

Flower studio has 3 HPS 600s on movers. When I want to add the MH/Fluorescent I put them under 2 MH 400s and a few 4ft fluorescent wall mounted tubes.

I'm simply pulling out the plants from the flower room and putting them in the veg room for a few hrs. They spend most their time under the moving HPS 600s....

 

[THE PABLOS]

Ma Kettle's Blueberry phenotype...

Ma Kettle's Blueberry phenotype...

This is the top from that BB leaner...not quite dry....but dry enough to sample before going into jar cure.



You may remember her....flip back to the top of the page if you do not and are interested to see her while she was still alive.

I've smoked two joints off the flower top shown in the picture. While the flavor will develop in cure....she has a hash berry taste...the high is a bell ringer.

To me: this bud structure and the high are what defines Thai features. The high is way deep in your mind....plays out like a trip with an overall sense of well being and/or numbness to anything that seems serious.

I listened to Pandora tunes all day....creating stations from The Byrds to X......all the while heavily involved in removing wild Rose in a landscaping project. Digging out a root system that goes on forever....the Rose plant....in full conversation through the music.

The herb....the nice sunny day....a hillside of determination. At one point every song made a reference to the struggle. So high with so much respect for a root system. While I have won today's battle....the war of the Roses has no end. One root....one chance...like a slithering serpent it will return to the field...sneaking underground...poking up a head to spike the land.

 

[Highlighter]

Tho I do fight a bit w/ wild roses, sassafras roots are what drives me crazy. Cut a sassafras tree and hundreds grow up from the root system. Till them up, they'll still root.
We feed birds and attracting birds has a big drawback. They shit all those Poison Ivy, Bittersweet, Bull Briar, and Russian Olive seeds. Bittersweet is the worse. I've torn cartilege in my knee yanking it out of trees. Evil stuff.

Myself, I am a DJ, I am what I play.

G-Krush looks outstanding!

 

[Barbanegra]

My gardens are spots wrestled form Brambles or Japanese Knotweed. I have a lot of respect for both. Serious plants. Terminator shit. The Brambles I'm starting to like. I use the fresh shoots for mulch. I ate one, boars like them apparently... I'm sure the fruits will be better
I wanna dig out a root of the Knotweed when I'll be prepping that spot and then drink it as a tee. Crazy plant that thing. Invasive par excellance. All female clones from a single plant. Any bit of root becomes a new plant. Digs 6m deep. Serious plant. Indestructible.
It also makes great sticks. Like bamboo

I have 10 of your F13xA11 out in the wild and will send more in the next round.

A propos plant encounters: Comfrey, Symphytum officinale is my newest revelation. It looks so good.
I gather some on my runs to the garden, bring a big bouquet of different herbs and flowers as a gift each time I come with a visit.

Also Datura metel... The smell so sweet and deep...

Buenas noches amigos

 

[THE PABLOS]

Crunge flowers ready for trimming

Crunge flowers ready for trimming

Fragrance: Lavender floral perfume

Flowers: dense resinated globs

I'm realizing these expressions can be picked as early as 50 days flower....I've been going late 50s but at that point they are doing very little. Seem to just turn off...and ask to be done. Fine with me.
The Crunge= Karoline Krutch X Prune Juice
Prune Juice= Querkle X Grape Krush
Karoline Krutch= AbusiveKushHaze x Sour Bubble X Grape Krush


I'm going to give Grape Krush (new age BB) some props here. The males I used were worth the $150some troublesome efforts. I didn't think much of the female GK I grew....but the males made up for her.

Using DJ Short strains to outcross with....can be frustrating. I don't think they are for everyone. Plant personalities come into play therefore making it a key point....to select out the correct dancing partners.

Working a dominant mutant Flo female for example.....can be much like pulling Rose or Willow roots.....she will keep popping out of the ground (most often in mutated fashion) and if you are intending to make her different....hope to have some fun going through a shit load of plants and probably multiple generations. DJ Short strains require one to breed....they only work if you don't sit back and let them have their heads...you must boss them.

I like what the Grape Krush males have done for me.... I think it wise to use Short plants only from the male side. It seems to cut down on overly BB/Flo (to keep it simple...that's how I view the two directions of the Blue family) expressions. I still find plenty of the Blues in the GK male outcrosses but not entire batches....like I have experienced when using my Flo mom in my work.

That's just me talking....you may experience something totally different. I'll stand on my own observations for now....though if my view changes I'll change with it. My latest crosses are working out to my liking.... proofing the pudding so to speak.

 

[spiralofeyes]

Dude, interesting and well founded views. I don't think you're wrong about DJ producing exceptional males. The greatest example is of course the sativa leaning BB male,may he rest in peace, that was used in JB and a slew of other crosses. That had to be some stud...
I've seen it around here too, for instance in elevatorman's flo hybrids like the goldfinger and J.Lo. Those were both indica leaning Flo male bred to landrace sativa girl.
I guess it comes down to the fact that DJ assesses his males for psycho activity and aromatics,while most breeders will just go for size and vigor.

Love seeing your stuff dude,inspirational reading.

 

[THE PABLOS]

Dude, interesting and well founded views. I don't think you're wrong about DJ producing exceptional males. The greatest example is of course the sativa leaning BB male,may he rest in peace, that was used in JB and a slew of other crosses. That had to be some stud...
I've seen it around here too, for instance in elevatorman's flo hybrids like the goldfinger and J.Lo. Those were both indica leaning Flo male bred to landrace sativa girl.
I guess it comes down to the fact that DJ assesses his males for psycho activity and aromatics,while most breeders will just go for size and vigor.

Love seeing your stuff dude,inspirational reading.

Thanks dude.

Still on the subject of DJ Short strains and their recombinations into my hybrids.....I will agree there is something to be said about the way Mr. Short selects his expressions. I guess that his selection skills go beyond....beyond where most folks have been. I'd venture to say: DJ has had over 30yrs with his line(s)....that he has fine tuned them to his liking and taken them deep down the generations....the amount of time and amount of plants he has worked with can not be ignored.

I cheat off DJ Short....it is a quick way into ornamental/colorful expressions. The mutants I have worked with.....a pain in the ass...but hard to beat for resin production and style. I've also found that the mutant factor is fairly predictable in outcrosses if you are basing a cross off a female mutant.

I have not seen mutants in any of my Grape Krush outcrosses even though one of the two males was a viable mutant....

I have not seen mutants in any of my Blue Moonshine outcrosses... all females were non mutants. Never had a male.

I have seen many mutants in my Flo (DP Original Flo) outcrosses...many many many....my Flo mom was a swell growing mutant......and pretty much my vision of what Flo is all about.

I can't say I've seen a greenhouse or warehouse full of DJ Short plants....or that I've grown all his strains....but most often I can pick them out of a crowd....either by physical expression or plant disposition.

Original Flo and Blue Moonshine are at opposite ends of the spectrum....yet still very similar in most traits....all the other expressions can be found in those imo. It would be difficult....in a blind test....to tell all of them apart with my limited experience. I prefer the more hash tasting phenotypes and seem to have no trouble finding those.....I could probably pick you out Flo due to the light mellowness of the high....past that....I'd mostly be guessing.

It's about expression not the lines themselves. Pick out the proper/desired expressions.....and not be overly concerned about the Indica or Sativa pathways. Resin production is a must....

 

[spiralofeyes]

I probably sound like a real sycophant,but once again,GREAT POST.

You've hit the nail on the head,I think. All of DJ's strains are spins on and pathways from the joining of his orginal parental stock aka. ''THE CROSS''. Because DJ,by his own admission,avoids backcrossing most of the potential found in progeny of ''THE CROSS'',whatever their strain designation,can to a large extent overlap and be made to mimic each other. I bet you could turn BB for instance into a very good Flo analogue,if you know the signs you are looking for. The strains themselves are concepts,and definitely not written in stone,IMO.If you breed one of the Blues with the idea of another you will end up with the desired result. Like you say,the Blue lines run the gamut between indy and sat.,and therefore sort of transcend both categories.
Case in point the recessive flodica hashplant lurking in the Flo lines. I wanna put this to the test though. I see more Flo to supplement the DP cut I have,Vanilluna,BSat 2.2,TBB and maybe GK or CK in my future... Using these as building blocks for my very own Blue-representation and as parents in crosses outside the Blues seems like a worthwhile endeavor in my book.

Keep pushing the envelope,man. I'll be following closely,trying to pick up some of your tips and tricks

 

[THE PABLOS]

Playing the dangerous dust game..

Playing the dangerous dust game..

Below...and stuck in front of I-HOP GK flushing females for work space purposes....are the 2 Cleveland Sage males (I had 3 in flower...but didn't much care for the way the 3rd one was shaping up...so I culled him).



At that dangerous time...pods are filling....so I'll remove them from the flower studio and exile them to another spot where they will only get natural light. Because of the extending days at this time of yr...I want to take them to the edge of their drop to make sure they give me an ample amount of pollen. I've had male plants fuck me over during this time of yr...so I gamble.

"The Laws of Pollen Eating"

1. I eat pods (can't bring myself to say...balls) to see where the pollen production is. It gets grittier as they get close to opening...the grit being the developing dust. Good way to hedge your bets and keep them indoor another day or so. It lessens your risk.

2. Some dust will taste better than other dust. Peeps probably will roll their eyes....but I've made selection calls because of pollen flavor. Most pollen is kind of green tasting...but there are some that taste dank (for lack of a better word). "Yes" I've smoked it...."No" don't see a need to do it....wouldn't suggest doing it.

The Crunge= Karoline Krutch X Prune Juice

Karoline Krutch= AbusiveKushHaze x Sour Bubble X Grape Krush

Cleveland Sage= Prune Juice X Hummingbird

Hummingbird= Kali Mist x ChemDKush X Grape Krush

Prune Juice= Querkle X Grape Krush

Again.....the same Grape Krush males used to make all of this....the common ancestor bind...the NORTH on the compass....the Catcher in the Rye etc etc...drilling a Short bit into a mash of hybrids which contain favorable currents leading back into my "Affection Pool"

Now we are seeing the Blueberry expressions further washed, recombined, rewashed.....that's the purpose of bringing over The Crunge into the Cleveland Sage....fade your blue jeans (bell bottom blues) with outcross washes....then recombine them.... see how you like the shade....go from there. All I'm doing.

Here's the 1st Cleveland Sage female going into flower....today.



Can you see the Blues? All the day long....but not all are Blue dominant like this one. All the slower plants are not Blue dominant...and I'm thinking that it may be the Kali Mist that is running those subjects. Hard to say...something about the leaves...

When I cross The Crunge into the Cleveland Sage...I'll have effectively used the same Grape Krush males in every part of parent plant make ups. I would say I'm coming up to the crossroads after I make this happen....but until I see a problem I'll keep plotting my course using this method.

EDIT: because I run a perpetual garden.....if I were to have an accident with the males releasing pollen while still in the studio....I'd not ruin my entire flower population...might have to pull some early and sacrifice some others but I'd most likely bounce back quickly. I'm very diligent with my plants....so I don't plan on that sort of thing happening...but I've thought it through and thus far....never had any problems. It's not as if all the pods bust at once anyways.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

damn nice thread pablos....those buds looking real frosty and nice...and i like how you are pullin plants down so often..

 

[Retardo Motabon]

LOL! I taste and eat the parts too! Any chance to get a hint of what they are about ya know. Keep it coming man!
RM