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Yggdrasil

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Been running these cabs for a few months now, just getting towards chopping time, reckon it's about time i started a journal here/share my cab with the community that's taught me so much! Thanks guys/gals!

My veg cab's in one of these: http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProd...=Specifications&ProductCategory=242&section=6

Nothing fancy going on there, presently cramming as many little plants in there as possible pheno hunting, along with my little fig and juniper trees.
Pretty basic, 65 watt flourex for vegging, 15 watt tube for clones, 8 inch louver for intake, exhausted by a td 100x on low, little zen style carbon filter... 'bout it.

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Flowering cab is the larger size cab same brand:http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProd...=Specifications&ProductCategory=242&section=6
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Been tweaking it here and there, if i did it all over again i would definitely move the louver i have up a little bit, perhaps put another one in too, maybe mount them on the front like Petemoss (think i spelled it right) did on his cab, but for stealth purposes it works well this way sacrificing the added airflow in the canopy.

Only using the lower half of this cab at the moment. Using the top shelf for misc crap storage, middle shelf holds the ballast for the hps and will eventually be a little drying chamber.

Currently only 1 8 inch louver for intake, will be doubling this once the plants nearing harvest are chopped, feeling like it could use some more intake.

Lighting is currently a 150 watt hps and two 42 watt 2700k CFLs, has changed a few times in the past few months, started out with six 42 watt cfls, wanted to do a comparison between 252 watt CFL and 150 watt hps, just figured to bolster the likely shitty first run yields i'd hit em with all the light i can (just rigged it up like this today, cfls added 3 degrees to the temp of the cab, but an extra 1700 lumens can't hurt i reckon. also remote ballasted the hps (well moved the ballast above the shelf in an effort to reduce heat, think the glass in the fixture held some of the heat in, was maxing out at 85 degrees before, now it's 88, gonna play around with the fan speed/ambient temp a bit and i'm sure i can lose those three degrees by tomorrow.

Cooled by a 265 cfm blower, controlled running at bout 3/4 speed, a little less than stealth thankfully there's a lot of ambient noise where i live so it's not a problem at all. Would like to build an isolation chamber eventually for it, but i'm a lot more concearned covering the motor on a squirrel cage fan than a can fan for some reason, that thing gets hot as it is, don't want it to bust on me! Ideas/experience would be nice. For now it's a non issue though, just a fleeting thought of a stealthier system.

Using the same type of scrubber on this cab too, have 2 new ones ready to go at all times, if i smell ANYTHING i replace it, prob just a shift in humidity, but these little filters are fickle at times, granted i push rather than pull... i know, i know, i'll experiment later with the 150 watt placement and perhaps i'll afford myself the room to use two filters or just perhaps one on the inside. As of the lighting system redesign today i tried a filter on the inside and i was just sketched out having pantyhose like an inch from a 150 watt bulb, probably being overly cautious, but i don't need no stinking fires!

Currently running 6 inch square pots, plant size is pretty good fairly even canopy for a staggered harvest, the most sat dom plant i have was a little too tall for the old lighting system, now with bare bulb i should get better lighting to it, and it's headroom is increased a good 6+inches. Most of the seeds i have to play around with are sats so it was a necessary issue to correct.

Think i've yapped enough for now, too many people to thank for invaluable information, may my first toke off these trees be in your honor. I'm sure i've left stuff out, would love some feedback!

Cheers
Ygg
 
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Sgt.Stedenko

Crotchety Cabaholic
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Nice setup, Ygg.

The CitralxNYCD looks dank. Now I understand your interest in my Citral.
What I'm currently smoking was grown from seed and went 60 days in flower, with just a trace of ambers. It's kinda racey and a lot spacey. Kind of a fruity tea odor. Not the best yielder, but I like the high, especially after smoking WW that went too amber for the past 6 months.
 

Yggdrasil

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60 days! I was reading that this cross is supposed to be 9-10 weeks, nothing ambering up yet and it's got a lot of swelling to do yet, pretty excited about this one. Getting this nice diesely grape smell recently, definitely getting fruitier!

Kind of a wierd plant, had it in a 1l bottle for the first 4 weeks of flower, in hindsight i wish i hadn't, has the best overall growth structure of my plants, if not a little on the leafy side, but it's a little bit dwarfed, whole plant is prob only 12" tall, fattening up nicely though.

Next week will be 60 days, gonna keep an eye on the trichs, lots of sat in the cab so i'm gonna let this one go a little on the amber side to chop.

So excited for this one, figure it'll be great smoke by 4/20.

Thanks for the info on the citral, i've heard some good things, excited to try this one! I understand what you mean about the yield on these, think i could probably get a half off one that wasn't dwarfed, hoping my clones take root or it reveges alright, would like to keep this one around for a while!

Next gals to keep an eye on are gonna be the Blueberry x NYCD gals who are FROSTY! at only 4 weeks, very excited about these!
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Cheers
Ygg
 

Yggdrasil

Member
Also fixed my temp issues today, turned the heat down in the house a bit, and fiddled with the fan speed a tad. Cabs comfy sitting at 84 even.

Cheers!
Ygg
 

Yggdrasil

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Figure it's high time for an update... Citral got the axe, got roughly a quarter off it, a little disappointing, but that was the gimp of the bunch, and she's just starting to mellow out in the jars, great uppy smoke, got a clone off her, mama citral's chilling in the veg cab waiting for her next run.

Blueberry diesels are looking pretty darn dank, two pretty different phenos. The tall one is untopped, pretty decent sized cola on her, 3 weeks to go! packing on heft. Smells like blueberry leaves dipped in skunky diesel, very unique, looks like it's gonna be my yielder of the bunch, but i won't know for sure until i run a side by side with her sisters to see how they all perform untopped.

The other BD is a week behind her sister, much more densely built, and smells a little sweeter. The smaller diesel is by far the most covered in trichs, and is turning a beautiful pinkish/purple... very curious to try both of em...

right side of the cab has been invaded with new gals, ran out of room in the veg cab, so i set up the right side of the cab as a "micro overflow" department. Most are heavily topped former moms, gonna be a pretty packed little sog. I've been a bit lax in my note taking (perhaps corresponding to the recent harvest) so i'm a bit clueless as to when the little gals are supposed to finish, a few different diesel gals in there, one seeded one not, others are sat doms that are supposed to be 11-13 week finishers, so i guess it'll be a little bit before they make reservations in my jars.

Lol less talk, more pics:
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march 15th

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march 23

couple more from today
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and the veg chamber
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PS been having temp troubles lately with the CFL/HPS combo had to frig with the exhaust, changed from blowing through a Y with two little carbon filters, to sucking through one and blowing through one, not as good exhaust capability, but damn sure kills them smell oopsies. haven't smelled a whiff since changing it, also changed the liner from mylar to panda...now to figure out how to get my lost lumens back :chin:

Cheers
Ygg
 

Sgt.Stedenko

Crotchety Cabaholic
Veteran
Hey ygg, :wave:

I'm dissapointed in the yield of the Citral, but I do like the smoke. I got a quarter each off my 2 in soil and it's looking like maybe 2 oz off 1 in hydro. Maybe. :dunno:
I'm switching to something else after this grow, even though I have another clone of her starting to root.
I know I could yield a lot more with the right pheno under the lights. The trick's finding her.

The BBs looks real nice. :good:
 

Yggdrasil

Member
Not much going on in the cab right now,put a webcam in there to keep from having to open the doors as often to sate my lust for looking at the gals... lol. Getting real antsy to chop the BD's, think they're both gonna come down in about a week, smaller pheno seems to be the quicker/purpler one. Gonna try and wait for the trichs, but i'm starting to get wary of the sleezy skunk hotel smell that's becoming more and more apparent. gonna replace my carbon when the lights come on and peak at the trichs. Started flushing the two blue diesels even though they're a week apart i think they're gonna hit maturity at the same/close enough time for it not to hinder things.

Edit: forgot to put the pic up :p
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Yggdrasil

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PS anyone know anything about weather it's better to push or pull with a blower? I know for a fact i've seen the answer on innumerable threads but can't for the life of me remember where. Also has anyone designed a bed style filter with these fans? done it with a bathroom fan before, imagine it wouldn't be that hard just would like to hear from any folks who've been there/done that kinda thing. i feel like my temps shouldn't be anywhere near 84 degrees with 1 150 watt and 265 cfm of exhaust...

cheers
ygg
 

Yggdrasil

Member
Quick update, Took a bud off of the smaller BD, a few more days and it hits the jar, snapped a quick pic to share:
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Pic of the cab a few days ago:
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And a pic from today with a quart of floranova for reference:
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The big girl is @ 72 days and seems to show no signs of slowing down, no amber, looks like another two weeks to me, little longer than i had hoped, but can't argue with the yield, pretty happy with this little light. Smells like straight berries now, really sweetened up, only a faint diesel smell (usually through my scrubber ~30 mins before lights on, not really like pot, but noticable if your looking for it. Gonna redesign the scrubber when these plants cycle through, still thinking about what would be best, right now i'm thinking a 4" T fitting with two of these pencil cup filters/ or two DIY hardware cloth jobs, have yet to decide, input would be amazing! Also thought about sealing the hole that's there for exhaust and moving it to one side or the other, so i could cut out the bends in my exhaust, or do two holes on either side, and feed them into a Y fitting i have handy, but i think the latter would cut down the airflow, thus doing nothing to help temps/smell... just tossing ideas around for now.


Cheers
Ygg
 
Is there no way you could incorporate a commercial carbon filter? For peace of mind it may be worth getting one. I keep considering DIY routes as they can be tailored and for your cab and better incorporated than a cylinder sat somewhere but at least with a decent commercial filter you shouldn't have to be constantly thinking about the smell.
 

Yggdrasil

Member
well the only commercial filter i have is a 6 inch one, think it's like 30 inches long though, so a tad too big to fit in the cab, pretty broke right now, have TONS of aquarium carbon sitting around, so if presented with an option of spend 15$ vs 70 if possible i want to opt for the inexpensive option. I know skimping on odor control is a NONO, which is why i'm trying to address cheap means of overkill. I may end up just getting another cabinet that's easier to seal/filter,

The major design flaw of this cab is the airflow, i'm at one of those "if i could have" stages where there are a million things i'd do differently. But i'm pretty sure this is a problem that can be fixed, have a few ideas i'm going to try once the funky broads clear out, will report later.

Am also considering swapping out the top of the unit to have a veritable "blank slate" to work with, or just breaking it down and doing away with the top section, to completely seal the one chamber, i have a feeling some of the inefficiencies are to do with the upper unit. Lol if this fucking thing just came with two bottoms i'd have two flowering cabs right now... (hmm wonder if the mfg could sell one?) At any rate the stinky diesels will be out of the cab in a matter of days, and the milder sativas i have running behind them are nowhere near as reekish.
 
Not sure of the dimensions but that top chamber could be ideal as an air exchange chamber to house your filter and fan. Failing that you can always have a separate cabinet for the fan and filter?

Those BDs have really packed on the weight lately from the looks of it. Ripening up in a classy way too.
 

Yggdrasil

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Had originally planned on doing the scrubber inside, right now i'm using the space above flowering chamber for a drying chamber, i'm sure there's a way to have both in there, also tempted to pack up the misc junk on the top shelf into a box and make a second flowering chamber, lol probably wouldn't help the smell much though :p

Have another DIY scrubber i made for an old cab that i'm tempted to deploy in this one, has two 50 cfm bathroom fans and a HUGE bed of carbon (well, pretty dang wide), didn't get a chance to test it with plant material, Was essentially the same thing red greenery used on that rubbermaid tub cab he made, used only one of those fans to get pretty decent temps with a CFL grow a while back. Can only assume double the fans would equal (more or less) double the oomph. If it was located in the cab (as opposed to on top of a rubbermaid) i again make an assumption that it's efficiency would be improved too; better negative pressure.

also would like to get the ballast out of the cab, strangely enough had better temps with added lights when the ballast/bulb were all in the cabinet (think more than anything the glass on the security light made the innards hotter than hell) but the headroom was reduced by a good 8 inches, Ladies in the six inch pots (especially the sat doms and "the blue meany") were stretching just past the light, definitely have a few tweaks in mind once the current occupants vacate the premises.

BTW Flowering cab is essentially two of the veg cabs stacked on top of one another, so the flowering cab has two 25 5/8" L x 18 7/8" W x 35 5/8" areas to play with...

Feel like i'm ramblin', i'll shut the ole gab trap for now.

Cheers
Ygg
 

TommytheCat

Member
I think those are some great little cabs man. Cab growing is extremely fun. You have complete control over every aspect of the grow. Same with indoor growing, but its much easier to manage a growing cabinet if your temperature control is good.

Great setups man. I hope to see a few grow logs in those beasts.
 

blackdoctormd

New member
what is the cab made of? is it sturdy? been looking at different cabs for a mtnjohn/ngb-esque grow and this ones real cheap and has great dimensions for what i want
 

Yggdrasil

Member
It's made of "durable resin" think it's the same stuff the rubbermaid tubs are made out of, just a little thicker, they're pretty tough, tried origionally using a soldering iron to cut holes, took FOREVER! ended up using a hole saw, way easier, didn't crack or anything, if you really have to a razor will do the trick, but cutting anything that requires a lot of torque with a razor kinda freaks me out so i avoid it like the plague. Think they're a little expensive myself, if i could go back i'd have done it in one of those "closetmaid" 20 dollar jobs at wallyworld, 4 inches thinner, but fewer seams to seal. could get three of em for the price as well :D Probably the wallboard too.

If you do get one of these, I can't stress enough how i'mportant it is to Caulk it as you put it togeather (you'll know what i mean) and put your paint/panda/mylar up then too, makes life a LOT easier (especially getting nice and straight mylar walls.

The adjustable shelves have these built in "bracket" kinda things, annoying to work around/lightproof should you choose to leave them on, wire cutters will rid you of thier irritation pretty swiftly. Then again it's nice to leave them there and cutout holes for adjustability, more than one way to skin a cat i guess.

Overall i really dig these cabs, they're fairly inconspicuous, pretty spacious as far as micro growing goes. Think it'd be really cool to do two/three flowering chambers in the tall one, but getting the ventilation right would be a pain, methinks.

Just harvested the rest of the Little BD, big one's coming down in a day or two. BD isn't as potent as i'd like (63 days as opposed to to 70ish as i understand a good diesel should be) but jesus it's tasty. Diesel covered kiwis all the way. Cured it smells a little "baby funky" but with a fruity note mixed in... lol kiwi fed baby ick. I'm sure the later chopped stuff will be much better stone wise, even if it doesn't it tastes so good i certainly won't avoid it. As it is it's great day smoke.

Try and snap some before/after chop pics from the big lady.

Cheers
Ygg
 

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