My first attempt at LST, nirvanas fem NL

[Shroomster]

Hellow people

Off to my second post. So i recently started to grow nirvanas fem Northern Lights, legendary strain and allways liked it myself.
My setup is:
400W HPS
20L / per plant, 3 plants

So i thought to give LST a go. without futher ado heres some pics:


One beauty, few days after first tiedown, starting to see those auxins at work, and she seems to like a lil bondage




Another one, here you can see the difference of a "normal" plant, and the same plant after LST, all this happened in 2 days!!

Before:



And after:



So far im really digging the results, there is only few days difference but they are getting really bushy, just the way i like it

I think ill go LST all the way to flowering, was thinking of 5-6 weeks to get as many budsites as possible, since i got time, what a luxury

Oh yeah, they have been on veg for 12 days now.

So people, any suggestions? Questions? Comments? Feel free to start a discussion

 

[pinecone]

I think ill go LST all the way to flowering, was thinking of 5-6 weeks to get as many budsites as possible, since i got time, what a luxury

There is a bit of an art to this stuff in that more bud-sites isn't always better. For a given amount of square footage this is a tradeoff between the number of colas and the size of the colas. In particular, if you keep tying down branches for 5-6 weeks you are going to end up with a lot branches on branches (side branching) and may end up with too many bud sites for amount of square footage that you have. With indica leaning plants that don't stretch so much and form large primary colas it is often better to train so that the buds form on the primary branches, with very little or no side branching. Such an approach would involve letting the branches and meristem grow after a certain point and pruning side branches. If you do this you will end up with fewer longer and larger colas.

Pine

 

[Shroomster]

There is a bit of an art to this stuff in that more bud-sites isn't always better. For a given amount of square footage this is a tradeoff between the number of colas and the size of the colas. In particular, if you keep tying down branches for 5-6 weeks you are going to end up with a lot branches on branches (side branching) and may end up with too many bud sites for amount of square footage that you have. With indica leaning plants that don't stretch so much and form large primary colas it is often better to train so that the buds form on the primary branches, with very little or no side branching. Such an approach would involve letting the branches and meristem grow after a certain point and pruning side branches. If you do this you will end up with fewer longer and larger colas.

Pine

Thank you.
So could it possibly be better just to let them grow? Since they all seem very indica dominant. I have been doing LST for just about a week now, so its not too late to cut the string and let them grow freely. Also, should i top them or not? I was thinking not to..

Thank you in advance

 

[Shroomster]

Or maybe i should SCROG them ? Somehow thats starting to feel a little better idea. What do people think?

 

[pinecone]

Thank you.
So could it possibly be better just to let them grow? Since they all seem very indica dominant. I have been doing LST for just about a week now, so its not too late to cut the string and let them grow freely.

For indica dominant I think you get better results by letting the tips grow undisturbed after a certain point.

Also, should i top them or not? I was thinking not to.

I wouldn't

Or maybe i should SCROG them ? Somehow thats starting to feel a little better idea. What do people think?

ScrOG and LST can be the same thing.

Below is a plant that was LSTed by by continually tying down the side branches and main stem - but it might as well have been ScrOGed. You can by the amount of bud in the middle of the plant that there was a lot of side branching and honestly the plant didn't yield very well given the amount of space it took up. There were a lot of short, small buds that didn't add up to much. For this particular plant, which did not stretch nearly as much as I thought it would, I would have been better off letting the branches go a bit (i.e., not continually trying them down). Doing this, I would have ended up with fewer longer bigger buds - and I suspect more weight. If the plant would have stretched more I my approach with this plant would have been better


Here is another plant that stretched like a lot. This plant has fewer, but bigger, colas than the plant above and was produced by letting the branches and the main stem grow more or less undisturbed by me after a point (but it was still LSTed). The plant yielded about the same as the plant pictured above in much less space.


Pine

 

[SKAGITMAGIC]

LST

LST

Hey Schroomster, I do alot of branch bending, especially outdoors, I've came up with a system of tyeing down branches and pot tipping, anyway my yields defintly increase when i play with them, I use lead fishing sinkers alot, Once a branch is secured to it you can move it inside the pot, I use little plastic clamps, very versatile with a twist tye fastened to it, and i put screw eyes in my pots. The scrog grow is a Dutch treat plant i played with, its my first, hopefully i've learned and the next one gets better.

 

[Shroomster]

Thank you for this information, this is just my second proper grow and still learning alot.

I just cut the woolen strings from all three, and i let them grow au naturel. the mainstem is left on that position i think for now, atleast before it starts to grow more up i think.

Oh well, atleast i got the grow abit more evenly to the whole plant, meaning the sidebranches and the mainstem is now equal, but eventually the mainstem shoots up, now that the plant dont need to race for the mainbud?

I will update some pics after few days or so to see how the mainstem has straigthen up.. Good thing is that theyr still so young, so nothing bad permanent changes could have not happen yet

 

[SKAGITMAGIC]

you said it all in one sentence

you said it all in one sentence

""So far im really digging the results"" that says it all, no matter what"s your bag!!, anyway I took a few pics last night when I watered my whurkle girls and I transplanted some BLZ and a clone that went nuts, The BLZ may have the widest leaves I've ever grown, the pic is a silver dollar, its about a inch and a half wide. I'm really digging the results and haveing fun,

 

[basspirate]

interesting thread man! i need to take some photos to share this eve when the girls wake up so i can relate properly. I am growing four LSTed F13xSDOGs from seed at the moment and it seems to be turning out somewhat like the first plant in pinecones post above that had the lots of little bud sites. I really would like to get bigger colas going myself, but I still don't know what my yield is going to look like at the end.

Overall, it looks like you're growing some pretty nice plants man.

Cheers.

 

[pinecone]

You guys might get some useful info from this thread

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=187887

Pine

 

[Norrsken]

Looks good man, post more pics!