Old School Northern Lights

[Gypsy Nirvana]

With all due respect Gypsy, being your house and all... the above statement is the real Quackery of the last page.

You simple cannot make improvements growing outcrossing species in minuscule populations in tents under LEDs, coupled with effectively zero selection, zero progeny testing... this is nothing more than pollen chucking.

It just cant be done. Show me someone who says otherwise, and I will show you someone that cant effectively judge a cannabis population for performance, traits of value, similarity to the progenitors. Ill show you someone that hasnt even tried.


-Chimera

With all due respect Chimera.......what kind of light is used to make a plant is really neither here or there as long is it produces the spectrum and the lumen's necessary for it to grow and finish well.....and whether its grown in a tent or Madison square gardens should not make any difference at all.......

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If there are any significant or tiny improvements on the original Sweet Tooth we are yet to see, since this seed-lot has not even been harvested nor tested as of yet.....maybe so, maybe not....

....I will let a multitude of growers be the judge of that.....

 

[SOTF420]

Oh they were harvested I still have the resin on my fingers and keyboard lol

The state of the art high power LED lighting they got was actually quite superior in spectrum to HPS & far more complete with the addition of supplemental full spectrum 6500k HO T5's also.

Also, as previously discussed these are for EATING primarily as salad toppings

I do not plan for my project to produce "better" plants, but rather more unique but still quality variations of the Sweet Tooth for people to be able to choose what they find appealing to them which is why 8 different females were used for seeds including Indica and Sativa phenotypes that appeared from the incrosses. All of my plants have great vigor & excellent resin production like their parents did.

The first gen incross parents of these for instance produced some very frosty plants with really nice fruity aroma's and great vigor and I have always selected for such and pollinated my best keeper plants lower branches whenever I ran them from seed. You can see in Phillthy's thread for instance or the first page of this thread the keeper he found out of my selections from the originals. The incrosses now all come from the same parents as those.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Well back to the Original Topic.....of this thread...


...The Original Northern Lights....seems to have been lost.......as has the Original Sweet Tooth...(SOL)

...Many seem to have made many hybrids from both.....but are any of these two still available in seed form?.......Is the Sensi-Seeds current version what it used to be?

.....is the BCSC version still available, or the Peak Seeds one?

.....Was NL#5 a clone only variety?

......and if so where best would someone purchase either of these in seed form?

 

[Chimera]

With all due respect Chimera.......what kind of light is used to make a plant is really neither here or there as long is it produces the spectrum and the lumen's necessary for it to grow and finish well.....and whether its grown in a tent or Madison square gardens should not make any difference at all.......

Gypsy, facetious arguments about lighting spectrum aside... do you REALLY think that outcrossing, anemophilous species like cannabis can be improved in 3'x3' spaces? Do you really think plants can be evaluated properly pre-harvest- at the seedling stage- for uniformatiy, degree of homozygosity, for polygenic characters like potency, yield, resin characters like terpene profiles, content and expression? Can we minimize or better yet purge deleterious alleles, and fix desirable ones by mating 8 female plants with 1 male... without progeny testing? Surely you acknowledge that it's simply not possible to make these selections, and judge these characters in 3 months, in the space the size of a small pantry cupboard?


If you say these things are possible..... SURELY YOU JEST!?!?!

 

[Ganja D]

I'm testing out Dr.Atomics NL right now. I've only heard good things and really enjoyed some interviews he did in CC magazine years back. Gypsy,you should get some more in stock so I can buy a few more packs.
So far very little variation and a strong tight noded structure. Some sticks stems and good smell in veg. I plan on using it to work my strawberry cough as well as other strains.

 

[SOTF420]

Gypsy, you have to at least give him a mentor tag for the big fancy words. He does deserve that at least. Chimera, I do not work for you and I don't answer to you so get that straight. You do your thing and I will do mine simple as that. I know they are not big fancy words but you can translate that into bigger ones if you want to make them seem more important if necessary.

3x3 space you say?

And it was 3 males on 8 females, they had an orgy it was pretty kinky bro

Here we go again, have a great night everyone and thanks for playing the Chimera is always right game! Don't forget your tinfoil hats on the way out!

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Gypsy, facetious arguments about lighting spectrum aside... do you REALLY think that outcrossing, anemophilous species like cannabis can be improved in 3'x3' spaces? Do you really think plants can be evaluated properly pre-harvest- at the seedling stage- for uniformatiy, degree of homozygosity, for polygenic characters like potency, yield, resin characters like terpene profiles, content and expression? Can we minimize or better yet purge deleterious alleles, and fix desirable ones by mating 8 female plants with 1 male... without progeny testing? Surely you acknowledge that it's simply not possible to make these selections, and judge these characters in 3 months, in the space the size of a small pantry cupboard?


If you say these things are possible..... SURELY YOU JEST!?!?!

.....well the progeny will be tested by many growers here......and you can hear their results in the coming months as to uniformity, degree of homozygosity, polygenic characteristics including terpene profiles.......whether or not deleterious alleles have been minimized or purged and desirable ones have been attained........

.......The growers will be the judge of that.....as they always are..

....Quite frankly....over the years I take more trust in the growers of a breeders wares, than what any breeder might hype them up to be...... Do you believe all the advertising hype out there......without honest feedback from the end user?


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[SOTF420]

and you can hear their results in the coming months as to uniformity, degree of homozygosity, polygenic characteristics including terpene profiles.......whether or not deleterious alleles have been minimized or purged and desirable ones have been attained........

OMG you simply have to add that to the smoke report rating sheet

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

breed·er
   /ˈbridər/ Show Spelled[bree-der] Show IPA
–noun
1.
an animal, plant, or person that produces offspring or reproduces.
2.
a person who raises animals or plants primarily for breeding purposes.
3.
Also called breeder reactor. Energy . a nuclear reactor in which more fissile material is produced than is consumed.

* from Dictionary.com

A breeder is a person who practices the vocation of mating carefully selected specimens of the same breed to reproduce specific, consistently replicable qualities and characteristics....

Selective breeding is the process of breeding plants and animals for particular genetic traits. Typically, strains which are selectively bred are domesticated, and the breeding is sometimes done by a professional breeder. Bred animals are known as breeds, while bred plants are known as varieties, cultigens, or cultivars. The cross of animals results in what is called a crossbreed and crossbred plants are called hybrids. The term selective breeding is synonymous with artificial selection.

In animal breeding techniques such as inbreeding, linebreeding and outcrossing are utilized. In plant breeding similar methods are used. Charles Darwin discussed how selective breeding had been successful in producing change over time in his book, Origin of Species.

*from Wikipedia


Hmmmm....I see alot here about replicating and reproducing.....

 

[stickey fingers]

I LOVE IC

I LOVE IC


SPECIAL THANKS,GYPSY
RIP, DR JAY,96 NL5XHAZE

 

[chargers123]

most of your crosses suck chimera .. you put in all that work, supposedly, for nothing.

face it you are just a bitter old man now.

 

[420247]

most of your crosses suck chimera .. you put in all that work, supposedly, for nothing.

face it you are just a bitter old man now.

It must suck not knowing what your talking about

Chimeras Calizahr

 

[Croissant]

geez this thread is such a hate fest from every angle!!

why cant everyone just agree to disagree and move on!?

how the f did a thread about northern lights turn into this mess?

 

[chargers123]

i said most. my grandmother cud do better tho

 

[420247]

chargers123- Are you retarded? If so, I'm sorry for talking down to you! You are a very special person

geez this thread is such a hate fest from every angle!!

why cant everyone just agree to disagree and move on!?

how the f did a thread about northern lights turn into this mess?

I love Northern Lights.... I have not seen any good NL here in So Cal. for along time.... I really miss her

 

[Croissant]

i thought reservation labs had his version of original northern lights?

the one he claims to be super potent that doesnt like to smoke.

and the photos from last year of the femseeds northern lights looked epic

 

[420247]

i thought reservation labs had his version of original northern lights?

the one he claims to be super potent that doesnt like to smoke.

and the photos from last year of the femseeds northern lights looked epic

Good info

I have only tried growing Sensi Seeds NL back in '03... I thought it was very good and a great plant to grow

I grew the NL, Sweet Purple, and Kali Mist in the same grow...

NL and Kali were great! One for the day, and the other for the night

 

[chargers123]

hasbeens

 

[420247]

Do you sport hockey equipment but never play the game?

 

[chargers123]

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