Old School Northern Lights

[SOTF420]

Dollars to doughnuts Chimera and I just start reversing elites and releasing those that don't segregate to much. Laying down and rightfully setting aside all those larfy inferior messes, the joke will be on all clowns who for some reason fucking refuse to pick up a book. It's only art for those who don't understand the science.. -Tom

Sometimes it's just meant to be also because there are things even science can't explain in this world. And there apparently is some art in selection, it worked for Steve.

But yeah please SOMEBODY take that SPG clone and S1 it

or some old school NL for that matter Tom? NL?

 

[VagPuncher]

Dollars to doughnuts Chimera and I just start reversing elites and releasing those that don't segregate to much. Laying down and rightfully setting aside all those larfy inferior messes, the joke will be on all clowns who for some reason fucking refuse to pick up a book. It's only art for those who don't understand the science.. -Tom

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down and I will now be exiting the thread before it becomes a real shit storm.

 

[Tom Hill]

I doubt it Vaj, it wasn't a shot at you particularly. And when I get up with Kai soon I'll ask him if he'll bring to you something worth looking at to make up for our previous snafu.

I just wish folks would lay down this malarkey and we could start talking about cannabis. NL is a compromise, and Sweet Tooth is a compromise. While I agree with Charles X in that numbers can overcome compromises, I have yet to see it in my life. The best combinations for the head ime come along with the compromise of yield. The very best in my experience has always been lower yielding SE Asian and Mideast crosses where quality was revered over quantity, while many folks went with higher yielding Central American hybrids bringing yield and a smile to cheap dates and the bottom line. I'm off it, but read it when my head itches for a scratch. -T

 

[KITCHA]

I have heard the bcsc nl5 is the business but beans are impossible to find, peak worked there line and it looks every bit old school nl5, a respected member here grew it out and said it stood up to a stack of the modern elites if not better. There has to be some truth in nl being the foundation of some of the greats,,, interesting Tom said the jagged leaf structure is fixed in the line. I have often wondered if the chem lines where in fact more nl than anything else especially chem 4 with it's piney taste, or the fire og with it's super serrated leaves Hmmm......

Peace kit-

 

[VagPuncher]

I doubt it Vaj, it wasn't a shot at you particularly. And when I get up with Kai soon I'll ask him if he'll bring to you something worth looking at to make up for our previous snafu.

Sounds good!

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Good ole NL5XHaze.
Still can't beat it.
It's the bomb.

I have some of the Dr. Atomic NL Haze & I cant wait to try them.

 

[CANNATOPIA]

I hope this dumb bickering about nothing eventually has a point or stops, because its getting old fast. You two are worse than my kids & i wouldn't buy anything off either of you just because of the way you conducted yourselves online in this thread. Nice work.

 

[Laugan Gaucher]

I trust in a thaï Light mâles with very big yield ( mâles flower big clusters ) I never saw big leaves like this even with some Neville Haze ( who has NL#5 genes ).

for me the biggest leaves you can see came from NL ( old and new stock ( #5) )

 

[Buffoonman]

I hope this dumb bickering about nothing eventually has a point or stops, because its getting old fast. You two are worse than my kids & i wouldn't buy anything off either of you just because of the way you conducted yourselves online in this thread. Nice work.

I have to agree.

Personally the cheese x Nl clone going around seems to the closest to what I remember the orignal Northern Lights to be like. A real stinker to. A lot of the seed versions now seem to have lost the taste and smell it used to have.

 

[CANNATOPIA]

I have to agree.

Personally the cheese x Nl clone going around seems to the closest to what I remember the orignal Northern Lights to be like. A real stinker to. A lot of the seed versions now seem to have lost the taste and smell it used to have.

That sounds interesting friend, I would like to try that cross.

 

[paladin420]

Hey OP still there? This post has just made me so tingley all over. I have allegedly been keepin a NL#5 strain alive from a 1994 layover in Amsterdam. None of mine look like your original photo,they are much more Indica IMMHO. I am playin with some seeds that popped up and thanks to your pic I will keep lookin for that pheno to show in the gurls.

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Hey OP still there? This post has just made me so tingley all over. I have allegedly been keepin a NL#5 strain alive from a 1994 layover in Amsterdam. None of mine look like your original photo,they are much more Indica IMMHO. I am playin with some seeds that popped up and thanks to your pic I will keep lookin for that pheno to show in the gurls.

Good ta know an older version is alive & well in the glove.

 

[Chomba64]

Maybe people just want to read a thread about old school NL without you posting pics of plants that aren't related to the topic at hand?

Seems pretty obvious to me, given that's what numerous people have stated clearly. I don't know why you are having such a rough shot with it.... oh right, I'm just your troll and it's all me encouraging all these different folks to come together.

Haters! We're all just haters, attacking poor innocent you just minding your own business and the gang of trolls came up and sideswiped you! haters!

sotf.... you're a dip. You know the story about the renamed Sweet Tooth 1.1's.... yet you try to mislead people by insinuating I somehow ripped Steve off... what a fucking JOKE. I have no knocks of Steve's seeds in my lineup. Not a one. The GF x BB are only sold in my catalog because steve is too much of a deadbeat to honour our deal. You really are a nut.... you say one thing in public and another behind the scenes. Casting aspersions about things you don't know about, and straight up LYING about things you know to be true... and you talk about Canna Karma... boy is she going to have a surprise for you one day.

If the line was such a winner, there's be elite cuttings passed around from grower to grower.. every dispensary would have it on the menu, cash croppers and personal heady growers alike would have it in the rotation... but only 9 years she is all but extinct. Sounds like a winning seedline to me....

-Chimera

Is this what is all about when you get "Big Time". Did you forget why you are really doing your plant breeding. It is to help people. Do not forget it or maybe you never got it.

Peace all.

 

[paladin420]

Good ta know an older version is alive & well in the glove.

It has not always been easy,but u kno she's my gurl.. bred to finish outside. Above the 45th. Works great indo allso who da thunk it.

 

[Mountain]

A lot of the seed versions now seem to have lost the taste and smell it used to have.

...and I've also heard potency has been lost.

The very best in my experience has always been lower yielding SE Asian and Mideast crosses where quality was revered over quantity, while many folks went with higher yielding Central American hybrids bringing yield and a smile to cheap dates and the bottom line. I'm off it, but read it when my head itches for a scratch. -T

I grew up mainly on Columbian and Mexican weed then a lot of hash from the Mideast which I always preferred over the bud. These days my favorites are the SE Asians and Africans.

Still would like to try a legit NL.

 

[RetroGrow]

I have some of the Dr. Atomic NL Haze & I cant wait to try them.

Sensi Seeds still sells NL5XHaze. It's expensive though!
I ran it 10-15 years back and it is the bomb.
As good as anything being bred today, IMHO.
Not familiar with Dr. Atomics.
Is that NL5XHaze, or just NLXHaze?

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Sensi Seeds still sells NL5XHaze. It's expensive though!
I ran it 10-15 years back and it is the bomb.
As good as anything being bred today, IMHO.
Not familiar with Dr. Atomics.
Is that NL5XHaze, or just NLXHaze?

I believe from what I have read it is nl5xHaze. TY for the tip.

 

[SOTF420]

Northern lights was developed to be stealthy and low odor plant for indoor growing under artificial lighting, it was very tolerant of lower light conditions because of it's Indica leaning genetics and still yielded very well despite numerous grower errors in watering & fertilization.

NL is known to be a hardy all around dependable strain with a very good quality buzz and very nice resin production in addition to high yields for the plant size. It is a basic building block for many of today's strains although the lineage & name has been lost in much of it due to the constant name changes and crossing of it with various other strains to create new & unique variations. If it was not for strains like Northern Lights, Skunk, & Haze we would not have most of the fancy stuff being pushed today as the newest trend or super duper kick your ass "kush". In the case of my favorite strain it certainly is old school and roughly 16 years old now since inception with the SPG going back many years before that to the time of the first NL gaining popularity and being available to growers on the open market.

NL may have some higher odor phenotypes and I see some people making reference to this as being a desireable trait but really that is not what NL was all about. Small, compact, stealthy, low odor and high yielding with nice potency. That's the old NL I knew & loved. The smell of it burning and the taste are unmistakable along with grapey or piney sweet aroma and nice dense frosty nugs.

There was another thread about NL not long ago and many of us agreed that the stock available from Gypsy Nirvana right now from good old Nirvana seed company on Seedboutique had some very nice original examples of the "old" NL line that came from Sensi stock. I grew out Nirvana NL years ago and the plants were like clones from seed, fast growing, nice & compact, and pretty much just like described above as far as NL goes. I don't know what they are like today right now but I can't imagine them having much variation if they are still incrossing this true breeding old strain.

NL has some variations that do come out like the thai sativa traits in some lines but those can have quite interesting effects buzz wise and of course the more classic Indica leaning ones are always a staple in the genetic line-up of countless strains touted today as the newest big thing. I have found the same types of genetic variations from the NL in the Swt line which I really do believe came from the NL heritage of the SPG parent. I have pictures of Swt Indica phenotypes that literally look exactly like the old NL pictures from years past. Plus anyone with the SPG clone would know it's nearly identical traits to the old NL.

Northern Lights, a truly great part of our Cannabis strain history

 

[SOTF420]

Gypsy's bidding? lmao

Yeah Nirvana a seed company unrelated to him but sold by him has some old school NL. What's next is it now also wrong to suggest people buy seeds from the owner of this site, I guess all the talk about NL from other Canadian seed companies is preferable to that for you?

Swt for your info is well tested over several generations and many years of people growing it. Back on OG which was my old stomping grounds the Sweet Tooth #3 was pretty much the constant topic after it was released from SOL and one of the most popular & loved strains hands down. The breeder himself said it's parent SPG came from NL which is the topic here contrary to the first few pages of bullshit.

Sorry man but I am not feeding anymore trolls today, you quoted my post which was 99% about NL and are now simply trolling. We are talking about old school NL feel free to offer you input on it or go back under your rock.

 

[RetroGrow]

I believe from what I have read it is nl5xHaze. TY for the tip.

Grab them , then, especially if they are cheap. I believe Sensi Seeds charges $225 for ten.
It is some of the best herb you will ever smoke, and stealthy because of low odor.