This is a good point, my 600w Lumatek with a 600w Horti changes color temp when I kick it down to 400w.. Still runs like a 400w HPS but it's got more blue @ 600w
I think the bulb should be matched for the wattage run to get the best results.
is a digilux 600w mh a waste of money?
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This is a good point, my 600w Lumatek with a 600w Horti changes color temp when I kick it down to 400w.. Still runs like a 400w HPS but it's got more blue @ 600w
I think the bulb should be matched for the wattage run to get the best results.
if you can get a 1000w that will fire your 600mh, you should go for that. nothing wrong with USHIO or EYE, SUnpulse or even Sylvanias. I will say this. I worked, owned, own a shop and I have seen more lumatek warranty returns than any other ballast of all wattages. I run quantums and I love them. I have heard about so many fires or near fires with Lumatek, I wish never had to carry them. It seems they dont fire every bulb. they are not gen or flip safe, and there just too many options, that are available on just about every other eballast out there. just my .o2. its all about the right PC board and keeping it cool. silence doesent impress me when they start leaking hot oil or melting powercords to the inputs.
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Iron_Lion
I dont think this is true, do you even have a dimmable ballast? I use super lumens every day thru flower and it is noticeably brighter and after a solid year I have had no issues with bulbs or ballasts. What would be the point of this feature if you only used it once a week. It might wear our bulbs a little quicker but who cares if it amounts to more weight in the end.
desertsquirrel
Member
Just ell me there's a flip box too
Thats a lot of quantums. how you likin em? do you use the dimmer? thanksTHMF
madliberated
Member
is a digilux 600w mh a waste of money?
according to sun pulse, you have to start the bulb at full power for half an hour before dimming.
Just ell me there's a flip box too
THMF
according to sun pulse, you have to start the bulb at full power for half an hour before dimming.
desertsquirrel
Member
I love the dimmer for acclimation of new plants. 1 day at 50%, 1 day at 75% and then on to 100%. 50% is also awesome to have when a heating issue occurs. Drop them to 50% till everything is worked out.
I do wish they had power boost, but not to run all the time either. I like to boost for the last week or two, it seems to really pack on the shine.
No flip box though toohigh, but i do have a few more walls like that one =). Either way its good to see you man, you were a real help to me a while back. Thank you.
I do wish they had power boost, but not to run all the time either. I like to boost for the last week or two, it seems to really pack on the shine.
No flip box though toohigh, but i do have a few more walls like that one =). Either way its good to see you man, you were a real help to me a while back. Thank you.
No problem bro. it's why I'm here. obviously you listened to my advice jk!
Don't make me throw up all my quantums, lumateks, phantoms, Baddass, etc. my shop has a wall of fame and wall of shame. most impressive, and shortest lived or most dangerous/unreliable.. I am happiest with my quantums and Gurus. their the same except color, and like $70 less MSRP than quantums.
Then Ill show the flips.. jk again.
Don't make me throw up all my quantums, lumateks, phantoms, Baddass, etc. my shop has a wall of fame and wall of shame. most impressive, and shortest lived or most dangerous/unreliable.. I am happiest with my quantums and Gurus. their the same except color, and like $70 less MSRP than quantums.
Then Ill show the flips.. jk again.
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SCROG McDuck
That is interensting, I've read that one should reduce light during the last couple weeks,
mimicking the fall, when light gets less.
I've always run same light till the end: a 600HPS over a 400HPS (verticle,naked).
Being a 'more is better' guy too, maybe I'll go 600/600 last 2 weeks.
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sm0k4
Reduce light? The sun doesn't reduce its output in the fall. Unless you mean reduce the day time cycle more, that would make more sense.
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SCROG McDuck
Yes, lower on the horizon/shorter days.
We do not change to shorter days in our grow rooms/areas,
so reduced lumins/day!? @12on/12off.. I read this somewhere and
although I have not practiced it, to me, there some logic.
on the other hand most of what I'm doing in the 'tent',
is not 'logical' in nature.
I got ahold of a really good bud jut b4.
dont mimic mother nature. manipulate her.
I too have heard people raising their lights the last 2-3 weeks makes no sense to me. its not only time changes out doors, the actual color of the sun through its seasons that do change. its why some people veg with a MH and switch to HPS when they bloom. It's also why I say screw the MH altogether. what I dont understand is why people replace their HPS at the end with MH conversions, throwing less lumens and NONE of the orange fall spectrum that really finishes and hardens off flowers. they claim more potency.
#1 biggest myth: "I yield less but my nugs are more potent and taste better."
While I can say the best strains out there don't yeild as much as a lot of Junk, the more you yield allows a plant to bloom properly. the longer it takes to finish, flush, dry, cure, the better. if your plants are barely surviving by week 6-7 of bloom, you are not growing properly. The better a plant is grown and harvested, the bigger and BETTER the end product will be.
I too have heard people raising their lights the last 2-3 weeks makes no sense to me. its not only time changes out doors, the actual color of the sun through its seasons that do change. its why some people veg with a MH and switch to HPS when they bloom. It's also why I say screw the MH altogether. what I dont understand is why people replace their HPS at the end with MH conversions, throwing less lumens and NONE of the orange fall spectrum that really finishes and hardens off flowers. they claim more potency.
#1 biggest myth: "I yield less but my nugs are more potent and taste better."
While I can say the best strains out there don't yeild as much as a lot of Junk, the more you yield allows a plant to bloom properly. the longer it takes to finish, flush, dry, cure, the better. if your plants are barely surviving by week 6-7 of bloom, you are not growing properly. The better a plant is grown and harvested, the bigger and BETTER the end product will be.
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SCROG McDuck
dont mimic mother nature. manipulate her.
I too have heard people raising their lights the last 2-3 weeks makes no sense to me. its not only time changes out doors, the actual color of the sun through its seasons that do change. its why some people veg with a MH and switch to HPS when they bloom. It's also why I say screw the MH altogether. what I dont understand is why people replace their HPS at the end with MH conversions, throwing less lumens and NONE of the orange fall spectrum that really finishes and hardens off flowers. they claim more potency.
#1 biggest myth: "I yield less but my nugs are more potent and taste better."
While I can say the best strains out there don't yeild as much as a lot of Junk, the more you yield allows a plant to bloom properly. the longer it takes to finish, flush, dry, cure, the better. if your plants are barely surviving by week 6-7 of bloom, you are not growing properly. The better a plant is grown and harvested, the bigger and BETTER the end product will be.
On the other hand, cant argue with any of that ^^!
Darth Fader
Member
Cravenmore, what ballast were you using when that bulb blew? Also, were you running normal full power, or on one of the optional power settings - 50%/75%/super-lumens?
TIA!
TIA!
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187020
The very newest lumatek 50/75/100/super ... Set on 100%. I'm running the digilux 600mh on regular lumateks now ... One is bright one is fluttery
I'm with toohigh mf homie .. Prolly back to hps vegg (hortilux)
Keep peace
madliberated
Member
I was not able to fire the sunpulse 600mh with the lumatek 1k ballast set to 600w, although it was able to fire my cheapo conversion 600w MH.
I agree the lumatek ballast runs hot to the touch, which I don't like.
The 1k lumatek hps I am running now is ok light to look at. If it grows good bud I will be very pleased all around. I'll be running the 600w sunpulse MH in the summer, so stay tuned I guess.
I agree the lumatek ballast runs hot to the touch, which I don't like.
The 1k lumatek hps I am running now is ok light to look at. If it grows good bud I will be very pleased all around. I'll be running the 600w sunpulse MH in the summer, so stay tuned I guess.
lumateks are powerful ballasts. they are bright too. not as bright as quantum or guru, or caps extreme 1000w (when they don't fail within a week.)
Phantoms are really nice and built solid. I'm interested to see how it does against my favorites.
anyone listen to bulbs shreik when you first fire em up with quantums? you can hear the glass actually expand (when you have 8 running) I thought for sure my horti red 1ks were gonna pop the first time I kicked it all on. I can tell you this too. With quantum/guru etc they are brighter and power a bulb to its rated power output. I can't take a phone pic with my mags, lumateks, or a galaxy, xtrasun and you get those black streaks, because the output frequency is unstable and flickering occurs. never seen it w my quantums. My horti's burn at least 10% brighter wider spectrum (to the human eye, maybe 20-30% more and I can take pics n vid w my phone. I will also say that these 92+% power output is adding more useable sq' per lamp and depending on the reflector. My whole life I only used 600's with 2 1k's per suntwist. my 2 10x10 suntwist rooms with 3800w per room (on a flip)
pulled 10 and 12 per room. my 2 6kw mag coil hydro rooms barely pulled over a P a light. bottom half went straight to the has pile. I have seen the lumatek and competition side by side, and will post pics of the difference visually and I'll use a light meter, as well as perform spectral testing output of different bulbs. I was hot flipping hortis and quantums every 2 hours for 24/7 (flip to flip. 2 12hr photoperiods internally) and horti's lasted near 8 crops...
Phantoms are really nice and built solid. I'm interested to see how it does against my favorites.
anyone listen to bulbs shreik when you first fire em up with quantums? you can hear the glass actually expand (when you have 8 running) I thought for sure my horti red 1ks were gonna pop the first time I kicked it all on. I can tell you this too. With quantum/guru etc they are brighter and power a bulb to its rated power output. I can't take a phone pic with my mags, lumateks, or a galaxy, xtrasun and you get those black streaks, because the output frequency is unstable and flickering occurs. never seen it w my quantums. My horti's burn at least 10% brighter wider spectrum (to the human eye, maybe 20-30% more and I can take pics n vid w my phone. I will also say that these 92+% power output is adding more useable sq' per lamp and depending on the reflector. My whole life I only used 600's with 2 1k's per suntwist. my 2 10x10 suntwist rooms with 3800w per room (on a flip)
pulled 10 and 12 per room. my 2 6kw mag coil hydro rooms barely pulled over a P a light. bottom half went straight to the has pile. I have seen the lumatek and competition side by side, and will post pics of the difference visually and I'll use a light meter, as well as perform spectral testing output of different bulbs. I was hot flipping hortis and quantums every 2 hours for 24/7 (flip to flip. 2 12hr photoperiods internally) and horti's lasted near 8 crops...
Has anyone been running any of the Sun Pulse 600W MH bulbs?
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