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so easy a caveman can grow it

so easy a caveman can grow it

the old creeper came to me in 1992, and i've been cloning her since. a great high and yield indoor/outs. here is a backcross i harvested today...be it with peace pablos and the homies !!

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Failure

Failure

I took the modified slippers out to the proving grounds. Nice stretch of canyon...with vicious rocky sections....creek crossings...brush to timber elevation changes. An up and back....with the up being all hill...and the back...the same rocky terrain only now on sore feet and tired legs.



My modifications.....and the Vibram 5 finger slipper....are not working out. The uphill was great...I jammed 6 or 7 miles up in good time. The downhill....lol...was a down time.

Because....when I did the 3/2 split....when I glued them together it pulled the other toes up....therefore creating a flap...because my toes didn't reach the ends. Didn't bother me uphill...though I was aware obviously...but downhill....cost me a brutal toe jam.

From that jam...I was thrown off...even after I ran the jam out....I was easier prey for the rocks. Downhill is when the hits really come...and they did. Feels like someone is hitting the bottom of your feet with a hammer.

With about 3 miles left....the glue gave out on both slippers. Uphill I had avoided getting them wet crossing the creeks.....but downhill I did my normal plow right through and I think that didn't help the glue. Anyway....they felt like flappers at run's end. It was a tough day....In the picture you can't see the rips between the toes so well..but the glues came apart on the bottoms and at the toe ends.



I don't think there is a commercial glue that will be able to help me now. There are just too many working parts...too much exposure. On a mellow trail...the Vibrams will probably work.(for me) I don't see much hope....without totally building from the ground up. They just can not hang with what I'm doing. Calling it fair.
 

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As a fellow hobby breeder, I can appreciate working w/ landraces, but you will have to look @ a lot of #'s to do it right. That's why I'd recommend any of Tom Hill's gear. The works been done well, and they all make great building blocks. The amt. of Deep Chunk crosses bares this out. (I'm working w/ it right now) The X18 is a hidden jewel you might want to look into.
I'm also a big fan of ACE and CannaBioGen's works.
The ACE Panama, imo, is a great building block from everything I've seen.
I rolled the dice on newcomer Secret Garden Seeds' 'Farah Kush', a seemingly pure 'worked' afghani that seems very stable.
(Have had them in beer cups coming on 2 mo now. :rolleyes: )

Mostly, do your homework, but go w/ yer gut too.
SB offers plenty of great deals from time to time. I got my DC's @ the xmas specials for $55.
Always keep an eye out for weekend specials, check out the private breeders (Classic Seeds is another newcomer I find interesting, and I'm running his 'Bullet Proof's')
S'cuse my butting in, but this thread is like a hangout for hobby breeders, pull up to the wood stove and jaw a while. :tiphat:
 

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that kind of abuse most likely means custom or starting with a new pair and reinforcing them from the get go and without all the cobblers tools it wont be easy....have you tried something like a teva bulldozer? they work pretty well on the terrain around here,which is pretty rough and rocky,plenty of cactus and rattlers..
 
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This is how I know I'm blessed on this running adventure:

My old man...he lives out in a desert and has been trail hiking for yrs now. I've hiked all over AZ with him....great places in AZ.

Anyway...he and I were talking shoes....and he came clean. At 65 and not having run anything (but lots of hiking) since 1980....he has become a minimalist trail runner.

He has the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove...still a Vibram sole....but not 5 finger. Hearing and seeing my mods and issues....he offered to order me a pair of the Merrells. Just strange....I mean he hasn't bought me shoes since I was a kid...and I'm not destitute or anything...this was a couple days ago.

So now...I should have a new shoe by week's end. I don't want my money back for the Vibrams...I don't want another pair on exchange...I'll keep working on them. I'm just not seeing how to do it...if nothing else I'll wear them for something...I don't know...they are pretty fucked up.
 
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As a fellow hobby breeder, I can appreciate working w/ landraces, but you will have to look @ a lot of #'s to do it right. That's why I'd recommend any of Tom Hill's gear. The works been done well, and they all make great building blocks. The amt. of Deep Chunk crosses bares this out. (I'm working w/ it right now) The X18 is a hidden jewel you might want to look into.
I'm also a big fan of ACE and CannaBioGen's works.
The ACE Panama, imo, is a great building block from everything I've seen.
I rolled the dice on newcomer Secret Garden Seeds' 'Farah Kush', a seemingly pure 'worked' afghani that seems very stable.
(Have had them in beer cups coming on 2 mo now. :rolleyes: )

Mostly, do your homework, but go w/ yer gut too.
SB offers plenty of great deals from time to time. I got my DC's @ the xmas specials for $55.
Always keep an eye out for weekend specials, check out the private breeders (Classic Seeds is another newcomer I find interesting, and I'm running his 'Bullet Proof's')
S'cuse my butting in, but this thread is like a hangout for hobby breeders, pull up to the wood stove and jaw a while. :tiphat:

....like this guy.....watch the private guys. All have given sound advice.
 

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Thanks everybody!

Will continue to do my homework, and will also look on the 'bay. So far, only been looking on the 'boo. This brings up a question....I've never understood the reason for having 2 businesses that basically seem to be doing the same thing.

Can somebody tell me what the main difference is between the 2? Besides the server fund obviously....
 

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The Boo's stock is all 'buy now' and offers payment via plastic.
SB is generally cheaper, tho unlike the 'Boo, it's an auction house. There is a limited time of availability, and prices can go thru the roof on hyped strains, or you can get things of great value, reasonably. (Case in point, the for-mentioned Straw-Dawg f2's from CBF I picked up for $34) Because you have many peeps here contributing, SB has more of a community vibe to it.
That's my take. :)
 
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pablos your old man sounds peace, apple didnt fall far from the tree homie...glad you accepted his offer too !! my pops offers me piss warm whiskey, and i say L'chaim !!
 
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No Country for Old Men

No Country for Old Men

I've seen the movie and read the book. You know the character Anton Chigurh? The dude with the compressed air tank and slaughterhouse tool?

I'm like him in a way....my tool of choice is a Husky shop vacuum however.....and I don't kill peeps or flip coins.

How do I know when my flower studio is at perfect temperatures although I do not use thermometers? By watching my White Fly population boom. With any boom....comes a need for a check. You must keep the fucks in check.

No bombs for me....don't like sprays....just yellow sticky traps and my Husky. My population is in the thousands....for a long long time...I've boomed and checked....shake the plants and suck them up or get them stuck.

....I've thought of a coco medium....with a slight suction via some sort of vacuum.....pulling gently the food enriched fluid down over the roots....quicker than gravity lets it drop on its own.

As it is.....I hand water with no vacuum. On full grown plants I water only around the stalk....I've found that's all need be done. The water spreads nicely and in useful ways...not wasted on the top layers.

So understanding this.....and to add further tortures to flushing plants....I am experimenting with using the shop vacuum and removing the top layers of root and coco....therefore exposing the nest and cutting back on the amount of roots the plants have to work with while up taking water into their girdled throats.

Case in point...Mikado at day 69...will be harvested tomorrow. She was just vacuumed at the very end of flush....drying out until tomorrow.



Very nice...sativa dominant....not sure of aroma....kind of just an overall funk. A fun one to grow....outcrossed to I-HOP Grape Krush.

The two Ma Kettle sisters used to make Manzana Bramble...starting flush at day 52....now they have had their roots vacuumed right from the start of flush. See how that works.



Like I posted earlier....nice phenotype split...on the left a more Casey dominant and on the right....a Blueberry. Here's(below) what the BB pheno flower looks like....this is her bent top (now untied) stacking her foxtails and bluing up



Note: I also use the vacuum to clean up defoliations and to help actually defoliate in some cases. If you use your vacuum just for the purposes I've expressed....you can dump the tank straight into a compost pit. It's a dangerous tool (to the plants) in the hands of the uncoordinated or overly stoned. Absolutely must be careful and paying attention.

***further note: the batches I've been harvesting over the last week or so....processing etc....Ma Kettles, Orange Brickhouse, I-HOP Grape Krush, The Crunge....are exceptional plants. I've smoked some of the 1st harvest Crunge....superb grape and high. That was off the more Grape Krush looking plant.....real real happy with everything. These pools are all that and a bag of chips. Stoked.

A joint smoked 1/2 way down.....then relit later...must keep the same flavor and it must be distinct all the way down. You must be able to tell what you are smoking in a blind test....or it ain't no Daisy at all. No guessing...no maybes...it must be all that on its own....or it's junk and forgotten. I've grown/experienced enough plants now...I'm sure... this must be so.
 
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buds

buds

L to R....The Crunge (Indica phenotype), Ma Kettle, I-HOP GK, Orange Brickhouse



lots of mauves, greens, burgundies, and ambers.....sweet citrus to sugary sweet grape.....trapped in the flower meat and resin glands
 
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Batched up (Batch Mates)

Batched up (Batch Mates)

Day 38 of flower....you haven't been shown this Crunge on the left/ChemDDIX1 on the right.



They are squat...around 30" tall. I will be flowering them indoors for another 10 days or so and then will finish them OD. The Crunge will probably be done around 60.....the DD around...well I've been taking them from 70-80 days. The DD are capable of flowering forever...most like to drag it out....I cut them when I need to or when they annoy me. They'll go 90 I'd say...if you let them (pheno dependent)

The Crunge...I'm finding that the Indica side of things are showing. Only...the very 1st flowered was real Grape Krushy....in that strung out sativa flower structure... often seen in DJ Short lines. I thought that might dominate....and I may in a good way...be wrong.

Most are looking like this girl



To me....this is Kush like....or what I recognize as Kush. I'm using the term loosely and generically.

I've smoked several joints of the GK phenotype and several of the Indica phenotype. Both tasted very much the same...earthy, grape (I'm not sure in reflection...on sweet), kind of musky.....reminded me of some purple strains I've smoked. I couldn't tell them apart... the highs are kind of dreamy and not ultra potent. It's a creative high...you can function but are on the lazy side.

Love The Crunge plants....fun to watch flower....yield well....smell outrageous...as stanky as the DDs...no problems with sensitivities.

Notes: I'm almost positive that beyond genetics....light spectrum is the most important influence on the flavor of resin. The cooler spectrums are essential to flavor. I'm not sure how that all works...I can only see what I am shown...but it isn't the medium that controls the ride into flavor when the chips are thrown down and all elements provided.

I'm no pro....but I am a gardener beyond Cannabis. "Beyond" is the word of the day. I like that word...may name a cross "Beyond". Beyond what?....got to get beyond 1st.
 
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not by choice but i have been flowering under a halide and i think it is maturing the glands faster,im getting more amber than normal for this strain,sweetestcindy99 at 52 days than last run at 63 days...new bulb helps too....

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.....I make it a point to move plants that are in deep flower under cooler spectrums (indoor)....for at least a few hrs. Gives me room to work anyway. I like blue spectrums so much...just a groovier way to see.... something in them unlocks tones....draws out undertone flavor as well as making everything more distinct. That's what I think I'm observing.

Flushing under the sun...is the best....hands down. You can actually watch the plants respond...and I have had no problems transferring them from the artificial world to the OD world.

They don't get perfect dark cycle (where they stay at night is not light proofed...and I mess with their hrs depending on the day) or always perfect OD conditions...but they don't stress out....they are so happy to be under sun...they don't care. Happy plants make for happy smoke.

I can't stop smoking The Crunge...lol..shit has me going. It's so mellow and aromatic that I can keep toking on flavor alone. Should get even better with a cure...
 
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Afternoon session with the scissors

Afternoon session with the scissors

Federation's Mikado



This is one of the many tops...goos up the scissors quickly and for her type...I must have sharp clean scissors (so rotating) as she is fresh and spongey and a game to trim. Flowers have weight though....not airy at all...her whole length is plagued by them....clinging like snails.

Flowers reek....I can't tell what it is even now. So far a total treat....minus difficult manicuring....not at all what I expected though. I was guessing to find some Sweet Tooth looking thingy....this is not that. A fine blessing she be...glad I put some pollen on her.

Perhaps she will earn her beans a chance at progression on the pathway...maybe she be a gem of a surprise...many little things I like bout her. She how she smokes out
 

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Yo, Captain

Yo, Captain

"Beyond" is the word of the day. I like that word...may name a cross "Beyond".
Used to be a band named Captain Beyond. I'm dubbing you Captain Beyond! :)

her whole length is plagued by them....clinging like snails.
Plagued? Really? :laughing:
It's a creative high...you can function but are on the lazy side.
Maybe a lazy creative writing high? :biglaugh:

Any interest in LED lighting? I've bought two small ones for veg in the last 6 mo. and will replace my old 250 MH I use for veg when it goes w/ a bigger LED. Also thinking of the Kessel spots for supplementation in the flower rm. Course I'll have to hit the lottery 1st. :rolleyes:
 
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Capt Beyond responds...yes on the LEDs....I keep looking at them in the shop. I believe they would be fun to at least veg with. I just don't like the cost....and also think they could be better built. Seems to me it wouldn't be difficult....though tedious...to build a wall of them yourself....but as I don't see many making their own...I must wonder.

I thought to use them as side lighting in the flower studio....kind of make a wall of them. Like you said....maybe if I hit the lottery.

No trimming today....but I set out a bucket of trim last night to swim and freeze in water. Might as well get the mud making out of the way. By Monday....I do not want to be thinking about processing anymore....over it.... my jars are looking insane. Test smoking sessions.
 
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Capt Beyond responds...yes on the LEDs....I keep looking at them at the shop. I believe they would be fun to at least veg with. I just don't like the cost....and also think they could be better built. Seems to me it wouldn't be difficult....though tedious...to build a wall of them yourself....but as I don't see many making their own...I must wonder.

I thought to use them as side lighting in the flower studio....kind of make a wall of them. Like you said....maybe if I hit the lottery.

No trimming today....but I set out a bucket of trim last night to swim and freeze in water. Might as well get the mud making out of the way. By Monday....I do not want to be thinking about processing anymore....over it.... my jars are looking insane. Test smoking sessions.

my jars are looking pretty good again...

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still have another 8 plants to take down in a couple days then i get the unrivaled pleasure of being a professional trimmer for a few days after a rock climbing vacation,my hands are going to be crushed after all that...
 
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Mud making P style....stressing death expressions

Mud making P style....stressing death expressions

....So I had a 2 gal bucket 3/4 full of fluffy resinous trim.

1. Pour the water in...make sure it covers all the trim

2. Set the bucket out in below freezing temps for the night with a lid on

3. bring bucket in....put in a little ice and set it in the freezer for an hr until you are finished gardening (2gal fit in my freezer...5 do not)

4. Remove bucket and don industrial black rubber gloves...elbow length. Proceed to stir mix with a finger flailing and grasping motion. Agitate for only a few minutes until it's frothy. Gloves work best for me....

5. let settle for 10-15 minutes. Pour it into the 5gal bucket set up with the 25, 73, 120, 190, 220 nets (I have the 8 bag...but find it overkill)

6. Pour fresh ice over the top blending the concoction gently and briefly.

7. Let it set until after you type out your blog



.....I'll post up the results later

You guys are posting some groovy stuff....HL the link cracked me up...unc...those jars look great. Great stuff....what a day

I've been drinking teas I've been making. I drunk down 128 fluid oz of a brew made from: Mugwort, Stinging Nettle, Rosemary, Camomile all harvested off my property....over the last 2 days. That....and testing all the new stuff via....smoking fatties all day long. Kind of how this is happening.

Take anything I say with a grain of salt....my foot has been hobbled for all these days...binge harvesting and processing...testing testing testing....kind of a nonstop roll. A virtual show.

Below: the BB phenotype Ma Kettle (Casey X GK)



She is showing stress....look how she is stacking foxtails....put out 3 easily picked nanners....1 low 2 high. Getting her mauve on as well. I girdled and vacuumed just 2 days ago...I believe this is a response. Her Casey dominant sissy isn't bothered at all.

Today I sprayed her and her sister down (though there may be a White Fly in the pix...most of what you see in the way of splotches is actually reflection off the water)....I pulled them out into a cold room and sprayed them off then put them under MH/Fluorescent lighting for a few hrs.

I'm low RH here...so I can get away with washing my flowering plants. I like to clean them up in flush as I consider it a part of harvesting.

I'm really digging the vacuuming of the roots....I might start using the technique earlier on in flower. For sure...getting air to the roots is interesting to me. Roots are artistic....I like to be able see them when I water. This method may bring me some nice results.
 
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