AK-47 questions

[jj7leaf]

Any one have any experience with Serious AK going into flower while in continuous light?

Seeds were outdoors and clones were taken early august while in very early flower, brought indoors under florescents, pistils have been showing all along on clones but last week started full blown budding (finger sized clusters) at approx 24"!!!!!!

Could it be cold temps (hadn't turned heater on yet and it's cold), nutrient related (was not adding nitrogen to keep from overgrowing space and getting ready for cloning), or just the fact that the mother had started into flower prior to the cut being taken?

Never had a summer taken clone do this before and I need to figure it out as the $$$ spent for the beans should mean plenty of continued genetics for the future.

Taking new clones now for continuing, when they were small they only showed pistils at internodes, nothing like this. Maybe with the warmth and the young growth I will see something different but I can am really worried about the mothers making it.

Any help would be great

jj

 

[Mad.Dapper]

I have had regular seed flower under 24/0.. I dont think they will go into full flower, but preflowers can get exaggerated under 24/0. I always veg on 18/0

 

[jj7leaf]

Not preflowers

Not preflowers

these are not at the internodes. The entire plant has 10-12 flowering tops. Not vertical growth except stretch!

These, although small on scale, are full blown buds the diameter of your index finger.

I will try the 18 on teh other clones when they get going


jj

 

[growhigh1234]

these are not at the internodes. The entire plant has 10-12 flowering tops. Not vertical growth except stretch!

These, although small on scale, are full blown buds the diameter of your index finger.

I will try the 18 on teh other clones when they get going


jj

think you been ill advised usein 24 hours of light its not natural !know you can get away with it for alot of strains but i belive it stress's the plaant i always use 20/4 exclusively on mothers and clones !!!! or even 18/6 would be better than not lettin the plant sleep !!

 

[the gnome]

I'm running SS AK47 fem'd and they throw out quite a few preflowers, many more than the others in the garden but as far as flowering they don't do it unless they get 12/12.

since they were in flowering and the lite changes I think they're stressed.
I took cuts from my AKs 10 days into 12/12 in early sept and they stressed out
big time. they are now just getting straightened out form that.

 

[jj7leaf]

Yeah....

Yeah....

since they were in flowering and the lite changes I think they're stressed.
I took cuts from my AKs 10 days into 12/12 in early sept and they stressed out
big time. they are now just getting straightened out form that.

I was thinking stress from starting to flower OutDoors but why the long lag between preflowers in August/September and now full blown budding in Late Oct early November?
Only thing that has really changed is the temperature, nutrients, and their height.

jj

 

[the gnome]

I can't say jj, this is one of those things
I did a 3 month veg this 2nd round and thought the AKs were going to bust out in auto flower, this is my 1st go with the AKs and from what I see they just want to flower
really badly. were they reg or fem'd?
its a pretty good strain no matter, good sized buds, med-dense, they yield decent and they get nice-n-frosty.

 

[litebuzz]

I've grown these and they start preflowers at 4 weeks...at 24 hr lights...I was shocked. mine weren't fem, and I was really lucky that I only had like 2 males in 10 seeds.

 

[EddieShoestring]

been working with Serious AK for a few years now-


i've re-vegged them under 24h light, vegged them under 24h light for 2months-i've even flipped them in to 12/12 for a few days then back onto 24h (to encourage shoots for mass clonning) -but never had them auto under 24h light before-
i think it must be something to do with them partially flowering-but thats not it-there must be something else as well. How about a good blast of sodium/halide and hit them with some N?
AK47

cheers
eddieS

 

[Bonavendura]

i was thinking to grow some SS fem AK47 under 2x600 what do you think for this strain against White Russian or Chronic from SS and versus White Rhino from GHS.
Where do you harvest @ 8 or @ 9 weeks ?

 

[jj7leaf]

Thanks guys

Thanks guys

I have also read that some auto's will flower as soon as root bound, I thought about this too as they are definately root bound now. I'm getting the new set of rooted clones running and see what they have in store for me. See if they go to veg growth and if they flip when root bound.

Nitrogen for the mothers is in already as I just took the cuts so we will see how the moms will take off.

Just never had a proven strain auto on me.

Food for thought for others out there...... I completely cleaned out my room this year. Put everything in the ground and kept nothing inside over summer so I could do some rework and a cleanup, my thought was to start fresh......
Removed some old stock and simply went out in August to take the mother cuts.

In hindsight I may have been better off if I keeping the mothers indoors under 24's so they never went through any kind of light change at all.
Time will tell.

jj

 

[Lump]

This is ultimate AK Thx for photo

 

[EddieShoestring]

rootbound could be it, JJ7

i was thinking to grow some SS fem AK47 under 2x600 what do you think for this strain against White Russian or Chronic from SS and versus White Rhino from GHS.
Where do you harvest @ 8 or @ 9 weeks ?

i've never grown any of those-
generally i leave mine for 9weeks. Have taken them @7when the pressure has been on-and left them for 11 other times.

thanks Lump-that pic was at 9weeks-i chopped that plant overweekend-here's another of it

cheers
eddieS

 

[TGT]

jj7leaf, it's funny you should observe this now as just recently I had the same thing happen to me. I also have serious ak47 and it has been with me for years now, clone from clone. It is really an excellent strain and no one ever gets bored or immune to it, so I was devastated when I seen my plants starting to bud.

I found out the reason why, in my case anyway. It was because they were terrible root bound and automatically started to bud no matter what light schedule I was going to use. I think if this is your problem also that a transplant into another pot larger than you have now and a 20/4 hour light regime should fix it. Did good for mine.

I hope this helps. Let me know if this could possibly be your problem. Good luck!

TGT

 

[jj7leaf]

As far as repotting

As far as repotting

With the fact that I was not sure of the issue or outcome i took a heavy crop of cuttings and want to wait for new growth to take off before I repot, probably this weekend.

I will let you know what I see as she progresses.


jj

 

[jj7leaf]

Update

Update

Just wanted to chime in here.

There were a few things going on that could have been the issue with the SS AK47 going into autoflower.

First, they were definately root bound in their containers (MAIN PROBLEM).

Second, the area was too cold at that time, probably not the main factor however could have contributed as this was full on auto bloom not heavy preflowers!

Either one or both of these circumstances caused both AK phenos to go into autoflower..


After taking as many cuttings of both phenos as I could the originals cuttings were pretty much destroyed so I did not repot them to see if they went back to veg growth.
The flowering cuttings were moving to a warmer location. Rooting took longer than usual but success ration was high.
Since that time everything went back to normal with nice vegative growth.

Anyone that has this issue with non-auto plants (this was Serious Sees AK47) going into auto flower will probably benefit from either repotting or just do as I did and take a large batch of cuttings for preservation.

jj

 

[bobman]

just grew out three packs of ss ak47 over the last year. Most if not all females will auto to some extent if root bound or even slightly root bound. Most are easy to deal with and control. I would suggest hydro with this strain. I switched to hempy after my first run and everything became easier and better. I think this strain was built for hydro. It performed much better for me in hempy(yield, smell and potency). I found if they get root bound in soil it was harder for them to out grow the auto flowering. In hempy if they get root bound and auto and you pot up the roots have an easier time out growing the auto flowering. Very good strain overall.

 

[Guest 88950]

good info.

i got a cut of SS AK-47 Cherry Pheno and mine veg under 24 hr light and they have been in keg cups and pretty rootbound and although there are ample pistils showing there is no bud formation. i have also defoliated them several times and shes lovin it.

im using 100% coco and GH Maxibloom and my AK is by far the frostiest strain and only 2/3 through flower.

ill keep a close eye on mine and if any auto flower ill post an update here.

 

[bobman]

If you have a cut of the cherry. Thats probably a pre 2000 cut. You are very lucky my friend. The think the auto issue is more of a new issue but keep an eye out for sure. I would transplant soon if i was you.

 

[Guest 88950]

i have yet to taste her and it has been around for a while and im happy to have her. im very lucky that there are some good genetics floating around in my non-med state in the dirty south.

ill post up some pics soon.